Infinity War Avengers: Infinity War SPOILER User Review Thread - Part 2

[Spider-Fan]

I understand how you would reach that theory; but, i think there is a number of things you may have missed. Far most, that Thanos is alive on his adopted world enjoying the sunset in the distance, as he heal.

One thing i like to point out from my perspective...a number of people think Gamora is dead. I don't subscribe to that notion. The stone has claim her physical form until her soul is either released or energies are used up. Gamora's soul is what powering the soul stone for now...so her physical body will remain in stasis until the energies are used or again is released.

This is what i think Antmam & the Quantum world will play a huge part in releasing Gamora; and Tony & Nebula having that slight crack at turning the tide in their, and essentially, the Universe's favor. Remember...one of the plots in AM&W is the possibility of pulling Janet out of the Quantum World or Multiverse...which set precedence for doing something similar with Gamora. My theory at least.

I don't think Gamora will come back in physical form. It sort of makes sense to kill her in hindsight given Saldana is now tied up in Avatar 2-1000 now, but I do think she will play a role in his defeat from within the Soul Stone. On this point, I am in agreement.

 

[wampa1]

Hated how lame Vision was, and how so many people are obviously coming back from the dead, but this film is easily a 9.

I don't understand people saying that Vision was lame. He was stabbed out of the blue right at the start. He spent the rest of the film on death's doorstep. He wasn't de-powered or nerfed or anything.

 

[P Supreme]

I don't understand people saying that Vision was lame. He was stabbed out of the blue right at the start. He spent the rest of the film on death's doorstep. He wasn't de-powered or nerfed or anything.

With Glave's Spear which in the comic is suppose to keep him alive as long as is intact so that spear is no ordinary spear

 

[Spider-Fan]

I don't understand people saying that Vision was lame. He was stabbed out of the blue right at the start. He spent the rest of the film on death's doorstep. He wasn't de-powered or nerfed or anything.

I don't think Vision was lame, and he had a great arc in the film. But I would agree it is disappointing that he was injured so early on and he wasn't allowed to have an awesome let loose moment! Particularly disappointing since Vision really did not get a massive power display moment in any movie so far.

 

[InCali]

No you'll win. He will just keep arguing well after he lost. Difference. Hence why I am not replying anymore. My point was already made.

An added plus is that you won't die prematurely of boredom.

 

[InCali]

I don't think Vision was lame, and he had a great arc in the film. But I would agree it is disappointing that he was injured so early on and he wasn't allowed to have an awesome let loose moment! Particularly disappointing since Vision really did not get a massive power display moment in any movie so far.

They Hawkeyed him as in A1. No one wants to get Hawkeyed as in A3.

EDIT: I think all kinds of people are coming back and not just the dust bunnies. I can hear the howls now. Look! It's Quicksilver!!!!
Aaaaaoooooooooo!!!!!

 

[InCali]

You mean like he has a change of heart? Sort of like they did with Vandal Savage in the JL episodes “Hereafter” when he saw what life was like when he conquered the earth and he hated it?

Maybe something like that....I'm wondering if they want to do something different than the standard good guys blow up Ultron sort of thing. Thanos is one of the best villains I've seen and, for once, I can understand his motivations (though I'd prolly take a slightly different approach). He's also principled, smart, etc. Maybe that leads to his downfall.

 

[javonstokess]

If anyone in IW got "fridged," it's the Vision. His agency was removed from the very start of the film, he was deliberately weakened (nerfed) so that he could not effectively defend himself and had to rely on his partner and others, and at the very end he was killed (twice!) in order to advance the goals of both the heroes and the villain. The Vision was a damsel and a sacrifice offered up to the greater good, or evil, against what he would have preferred, i.e., living peacefully with Wanda. He got stuffed in a mini-fridge, which then got nuked.

The major theme of Infinity War was people being forced to sacrifice or lose their loves. Wanda was forced to sacrifice the Vision. Loki was confronted with the choice of sacrificing Thor to retain the Time Stone, but he chose not to. Gamora asked Peter Quill to kill her to stop Thanos, which he ultimately tried to do but failed. Doctor Strange vowed to sacrifice Stark and Peter Parker to protect the Time Stone but realized he needed to save Stark. You could even say that T'Challa willingly sacrificed Wakanda to save the entire universe. And, of course, Thanos sacrificed Gamora out of twisted ambition and a sick, delusional love.

At the very end of the film, when Thanos snapped his fingers, the characters we saw die were all loved by someone left behind. They were halves of pairs, for the most part. The first was Bucky, whose death left Steve bereft and lost. Wanda followed the Vision into death. Rocket was left to mourn Groot, again. Tony had to hold Peter in his arms as he turned to ash. Surely the themes of loss and sacrifice were woven through IW for a reason and will carry over into Avengers 4.

This...so much this.

 

[Dark Raven]

I just joined this forum and I just saw Avengers Infinity War last night, and needed somewhere to post my theory which I haven't seen discussed.

I've read that in Thanos' final scene that the orange undertones of his surroundings is that he is in fact within the Soul Stone, where he meets Gamora's younger image. Is it possible, that with the snap of his finger, that half of all beings faded away, that Thanos himself ended up being part of that half? That when he is asked by Gamora what his cost was, that it was his life? Everything he was hoping to see after snapping his finger? That all the characters he "killed" off actually now reside in the Soul Stone?

In addition, when Thanos teleported himself from Wakanda, I would assume he teleported to Titan, where Iron Man survived. Then perhaps Thanos himself faded from existence. Then Tony Stark would discover the gauntlet, or atleast the stones, since it wouldn't be probable that the stones would accompany Thanos into the Soul World.

The mold or model for the gauntlet still exists on Nidavellir, where a new gauntlet could be created to use the Time Stone to reverse all the events while Thanos battles the killed off heroes in Soul World? (I mean, we all know they can't kill off Spider-Man and Black Panther after only one movie each!)

Just trying to connect the dots here. I have no idea how Captain Marvel would play a roll in this, other than being the only other being, as powerful as I have read her to be, who could possibly wield all the stones?

Is this theory crazy? Probably....

That's an interesting theory.

What if Thanos accidentally trapped himself in the Soul Stone after he snapped his fingers. Maybe he's trapped in a reality where all the heroes are dead and he thinks he has won. But in fact all the heroes are still out there on Titan or on the battlefield in Wakanda wondering what happened to Thanos and how they managed to defeat him. It's only in Thanos's mind and perception of reality where he thinks he has secured the victory.

 

[javonstokess]

A Few Thoughts:

Thanos clearly, outwardly, mourned Gamora. You could see it all over his face after he threw her off the mountain.

Not sure why folks keep thinking Thanos is in the "Soul World". Every indication given to us on the Soul realm is that it's that orange hued environment shown after the "Snap".

I do believe there is a reason why they showed us the mold for the Gauntlet.

I wouldn't be surprised if they kept Gamora dead and the next Guardians movie is about "saving" her. It would allow them to add another female Guardian character (maybe Phyla-Vell?).

I do believe those that were "dusted" are dead. The stones will be able to bring them back though.

I kinda hope they bring Vision back, but in his emotionless. gray version because the mind stone is removed. It'd be a bittersweet reunion for him and Wanda.

 

[Flint Marko]

I do believe those that were "dusted" are dead. The stones will be able to bring them back though.

I hope so. I really don't want to see them alive-but-not somewhere else.

 

[InCali]

A Few Thoughts:

Thanos clearly, outwardly, mourned Gamora. You could see it all over his face after he threw her off the mountain.

Not sure why folks keep thinking Thanos is in the "Soul World". Every indication given to us on the Soul realm is that it's that orange hued environment shown after the "Snap".

I do believe there is a reason why they showed us the mold for the Gauntlet.

I wouldn't be surprised if they kept Gamora dead and the next Guardians movie is about "saving" her. It would allow them to add another female Guardian character (maybe Phyla-Vell?).

I do believe those that were "dusted" are dead. The stones will be able to bring them back though.

I kinda hope they bring Vision back, but in his emotionless. gray version because the mind stone is removed. It'd be a bittersweet reunion for him and Wanda.

You are evil.

 

[Flint Marko]

Vision is definitely coming back, most likely as the gray version of the character.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Or, will he come back as Vision the WHITE?

 

[InCali]

Or, will he come back as Vision the WHITE?

I wonder who he was in his youth in the west that is forgotten.

 

[squeekness]

Or, will he come back as Vision the WHITE?

Hee hee,

 

[Abudefduf]

I wonder who he was in his youth in the west that is forgotten.

"I am Vision, Vision the White. But Purple is mightier still."

 

[Flint Marko]

But really, was there a name for White/Gray Vision in the comics? I don't think I've ever read any of those issues, I've just seen the artwork. It's clear they were paying homage to that when he got the mind stone yanked from him, which is why I'm convinced he's coming back.

 

[Timebomb]

My theory is that Vision is alive within the stone and as Thanos snapped his fingers, he saved everyone by containing them within the stone with him. I think he will be fighting Thanos from within the stone

 

[PacificBoy]

Vision returns in a white or grey form.

"Look, Marvel's colour desaturation has gone too far!"

 

[Spider-Fan]

In all seriousness though, Vision is a robot, so him being rebuilt somehow I can see being possible. But, he is the only death I can see returning in a physical form. While I don't think Gamora's resurrection is impossible, I see her fighting/tormenting Thanos within the Soul Stone. I don't think she will be brought back physically. Loki and Heimdall likewise are dead. Idris Elba wanted out a while ago (here is his wish) and they won't fake Loki's death yet again, LOL!

 

[WitcherGeralt]

Anyone knows what Strange did with the BO's ship at the beginning of the Newyork battle? Right before he winked at Tony.

 

[Murdock103]

I’ve seen a lot of theories about all the people that were dusted will be trapped in the soul stone instead, and as such they will be able to be saved.
Which I don’t really see the point of. If they’re just dead, they can still be saved. It’s the infinity gauntlet after all.

Now I could see Gamora’s soul being trapped in the stone, given the nature of her death, but everyone?

 

[javonstokess]

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Make it happen Marvel!!!

 

[SomeOldGuy]

I wonder who he was in his youth in the west that is forgotten.

Olookrin, obviously.