I love your example of True Lies. The chase scene on the highway and then the rescue of Arnold's daughter made that movie truly memorable. If there's one James Cameron movie that I can watch over and over, it's definitely True Lies.
Aliens is pretty damn preachy with it's "Capitalism Is EVIL!!" undertone. I mean Burke couldn't be more of a pure caricature if they tried.
T2 gets it a tad with Sarah Conner and her crusade against cyberdyne.
Again, how is that preachy? It's just elements to the story. It doesn't take away from them being mainly action/suspense driven.
I mean what, should Aliens just be about a group of soldiers fighting aliens? No, that would be incredibly boring and shallow. The idea of Burke wanting to get Ripley and Newt "pregnant" with aliens so he can get them back for the company is just a story element that adds tension and depth to the characters. You don't even need to take it as a dig against capitalism. And how is it a cliche or caricature if it was pretty much the first movie franchise to have that mysterious "company" conspiracy? You're getting it mixed up, others copied Alien and Aliens, not the other way round.
And your criticism of Sarah Conner's crusade against cyberdyne is just as strange. How is it preachy? That is the main ****ing story. Stopping cyberdyne in the present so the future war doesn't happen. It's about fighting against predestination, not accepting that your fate is set in stone and you can't change it.
God forbid we have films that have layers and make us think.
Also, Terminator 2 didn't particularly portray Cyberdyne as evil, or even foolish. They just had the misfortune of being the guys who will eventually create Skynet.
Again, how is that preachy? It's just elements to the story. It doesn't take away from them being mainly action/suspense driven.
I mean what, should Aliens just be about a group of soldiers fighting aliens? No, that would be incredibly boring and shallow. The idea of Burke wanting to get Ripley and Newt "pregnant" with aliens so he can get them back for the company is just a story element that adds tension and depth to the characters. You don't even need to take it as a dig against capitalism. And how is it a cliché or caricature if it was pretty much the first movie franchise to have that mysterious "company" conspiracy? You're getting it mixed up, others copied Alien and Aliens, not the other way round.
And your criticism of Sarah Conner's crusade against cyberdyne is just as strange. How is it preachy? That is the main ****ing story. Stopping cyberdyne in the present so the future war doesn't happen. It's about fighting against predestination, not accepting that your fate is set in stone and you can't change it.
God forbid we have films that have layers and make us think.
Sorry, you're talking out of your arse. You're just picking for no reason.
Alien did it so Aliens couldn't do it? They're in the same universe continuing the same story. What, should the whole mysterious company angle just be dropped? Or should they show a sense of continuity?
You'll excuse SHIELDs blatant involvement in all the Marvel movies though right? You think they are subtle? lol do me a favor. You can watch both Alien movies without acknowledging the "company" angle. It doesn't exist if you don't want it to. You can't do that with SHIELD and the Marvel films can you?
And how was Ripley's "speech" smug and self righteous? The guy just wanted to impregnate her with an alien that eats it's way out of her chest? How would you react?
then Joss can make 2:15 still feel a Star Wars level of epic.
2:15 is longer than all of the OT Star Wars movies
Not happy with 135 minutes if it is indeed true. Not happy at all.
The movie should be no less than 145 minutes. From what I'm gathering, Whedon shot for something even longer than that but they seem to be giving him a hard time in the editing room.
Hopefully this doesn't amount to another Feige/TIH situation.
It's stupid to say things like "this movie shouldn't be anything less than 2 hours and 30 minutes". We don't like it when a studio forces directors to gut a movie to reach a 90 minute running time just to get more showings a day, so what makes this mindset any better? You are still looking at the number but not the context of the footage and how it really plays as a whole. Only the guy who directed the movie and the editor can make that decision, because they know what they're working with. We don't.
Actually, in this case, it's the producers who made that decision. Whedon, during an interview, was *informed* of the 2:15 runtime, chosen by Feige, and Whedon said that it's cool and it works, and that he doesn't believe anything vital was left on the cutting room floor.
Actually, in this case, it's the producers who made that decision. Whedon, during an interview, was *informed* of the 2:15 runtime, chosen by Feige, and Whedon said that it's cool and it works, and that he doesn't believe anything vital was left on the cutting room floor.
Can you link this, because I have not read it anywhere.
Eh, retracted. I misread something during SXSW or something...sorry.