Comics Back In Black Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[Kevin]

Dammit, I been holding it in for everytime someone says, "I can't wait for the red and blue this and that spidey to come back," but no more!! I want red and Black!!!

 

[Spade]

Everyone's talked about how Peter's going to give it to the Kingpin, but what if he spares him only to find out Brock went as far as to kill Aunt May? Brock doesn't have powers, and while Peter seems to be holding back on blatant killing it's on his mind. Maybe Brock's move in this pushes him over the edge. This story is being set up a lot like Eddie's desperate swansong in the Marvel Universe (The Last Temptation of Eddie Brock?), and if this really is a movie tie-in it's a sobering thought that he bit the dust at the end of Spider-Man 3. Furthermore, how are we sure that Peter will be "back to his old self" in One More Day? All we know is that he goes back to wearing the red and blue. We really don't know if he'll be back to his wise-cracking self. I doubt if he kills Brock, who's wearing a nylon carbon copy, he'd be too hot about continuing to run about in similar threads.

The possibilities are endless, yet the capacity to screw up so high...

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

That last page of ASM was very cool. Unfortunately, i think most of the next issue will be Kingpin mopping the floor with Peter, what with that blood transfusion and all...

 

[Web-Head408]

That last page of ASM was very cool. Unfortunately, i think most of the next issue will be Kingpin mopping the floor with Peter, what with that blood transfusion and all...

that was cool, and what he said to fisk, but it won't mean nothing when pete gets his ass kicked next issue.

 

[Dangerous]

Argghh in Spain, can´t get ASM 541 or SSM 38!

Feel my pain Hypesters!

 

[ragingdemon155]

That last page of ASM was very cool. Unfortunately, i think most of the next issue will be Kingpin mopping the floor with Peter, what with that blood transfusion and all...

You have no idea how much that bothers me

Even back in the old days when Spidey was in tip top shape, Kingpin would mop the floor with him. It was actually kind of funny. Spidey should be able to slap Kingpin and knock him out, but meh whatever....

I've always thought that Kingpin was a closet mutant anyway...he has to be.

 

[ragingdemon155]

When does the next ASM issue come out?

Please don't tell me we have to wait another 6 months like last time.

 

[ArmyDragon92A]

I have a slight lack of understanding? You have no clue what you're talking about. 1st of all May isn't dead and considering this is the marvel universe, there's a good chance she'll survive. He should be angry but not to this point, Spider-Man would be out for justice, not to murder people. Peter Parker has been shown time and time and time again that he does not kill, it's not his nature. While it would be a lot of people's nature, it's not his.
Now, if you want to say that Norman would be too cliche, fine I see that and I agree, but for Peter to be at the point he's at now, so willing to kill someone, IMO it should take a lot more than this considering what he's already been through.

You have no understanding of human nature. None what so ever. To show him being the same over and over and over after all these years is insanely unreleastic. He's snapped before, he's almost killed before, he's said he would do it before. This is nothing new. And if it is to you, you're a newbie to the Spider-Verse. I welcome you with open arms.

 

[The Caped Knight]

When does the next ASM issue come out?

Please don't tell me we have to wait another 6 months like last time.

Well according to this it's June, 27 .

http://www.samruby.com/News/previews.htm

 

[The Caped Knight]

That last page of ASM was very cool. Unfortunately, i think most of the next issue will be Kingpin mopping the floor with Peter,

I hope for once that cycle is broken once and for all and this time Peter gives The Kingpin a badass beating that will be so earth shattering he almost kills him .

If spidey can go more than 5 rounds with someone like The Hulk who's got super powers, Why can he take down The Kingpin who's only has muscles and no super powers ?

 

[Web-Head408]

Argghh in Spain, can´t get ASM 541 or SSM 38!

Feel my pain Hypesters!

that stinks.

 

[ragingdemon155]

I hope for once that cycle is broken once and for all and this time Peter gives The Kingpin a badass beating that will be so earth shattering he almost kills him .

If spidey can go more than 5 rounds with someone like The Hulk who's got super powers, Why can he take down The Kingpin who's only has muscles and no super powers ?

The Kingpin has powers....

 

[Themanofbat]

Aaaaahhhhh, I still remember reading ASM #197, which featured an angry & desperate Kingpin dedicating his last 12 hours of crime to wanting nothing more than to simply kill Spider-Man... and of course, the wall-crawler had his arm in a sling, and was wanting to rush over to his Aunt's nursing home after her "death" because he remembered the good doctor's name...

Best Kingpin/Spider-Man battle EVER!!!

 

[Cullen]

Aaaaahhhhh, I still remember reading ASM #197, which featured an angry & desperate Kingpin dedicating his last 12 hours of crime to wanting nothing more than to simply kill Spider-Man... and of course, the wall-crawler had his arm in a sling, and was wanting to rush over to his Aunt's nursing home after her "death" because he remembered the good doctor's name...

Best Kingpin/Spider-Man battle EVER!!!

Hell yeah.

 

[Venom07]

You have no understanding of human nature. None what so ever. To show him being the same over and over and over after all these years is insanely unreleastic. He's snapped before, he's almost killed before, he's said he would do it before. This is nothing new. And if it is to you, you're a newbie to the Spider-Verse. I welcome you with open arms.

Don't make a statement on my understanding of anything without knowing a thing about me. Quite frankly your simplistic view on this is really rather annoying and it's getting old.
It's unrealistic for Peter Parker to go down this road, if you think this is within his character than you're a newb who can't get by the fact that Peter isn't you! Stop projecting what you or most people would do in this particular situation on a character that has been shown time and time again to handle things a certain way. Peter doesn't kill, he's had ample opportunity and quite frankly has been in situations where it would've been understandable for him to kill and HE HASN'T!!! It's one thing for him to say it immediately after the fact that he's going to kill someone but at least a few days since the shooting has gone by now, for him to still be in this rage is uncharacteristic and it doesn't fit. Growth and change are great when it's handled appropriately and when it's not done for shock value, this isn't growth and change! This is the writers wanting to tell a particular story, trying to shock with another "Spider-Man will never be the same after this" and having no regards for a characters well established personal beliefs. It is against everything that Peter stands for to kill. Period! If you think otherwise than you don't have a clue about who or what Peter Parker is.

 

[SpideyZERO]

Does it matter? It's not like Peter will succeed in killing anyway. Kingpin is out of jail

 

[The Caped Knight]

This a cool black spidey pic, that I just wanted to share with you all .

 

[ragingdemon155]

This a cool black spidey pic, that I just wanted to share with you all .

The concept is cool but the proportions are way off.

 

[The Caped Knight]

The concept is cool but the proportions are way off.

I guess this one is more to your liking ?

 

[Web-Head408]

This a cool black spidey pic, that I just wanted to share with you all .

weird pose. but still cool.

I guess this one is more to your liking ?

 

[SpideyZERO]

Where are those from?

 

[ArmyDragon92A]

Don't make a statement on my understanding of anything without knowing a thing about me. Quite frankly your simplistic view on this is really rather annoying and it's getting old.
It's unrealistic for Peter Parker to go down this road, if you think this is within his character than you're a newb who can't get by the fact that Peter isn't you! Stop projecting what you or most people would do in this particular situation on a character that has been shown time and time again to handle things a certain way. Peter doesn't kill, he's had ample opportunity and quite frankly has been in situations where it would've been understandable for him to kill and HE HASN'T!!! It's one thing for him to say it immediately after the fact that he's going to kill someone but at least a few days since the shooting has gone by now, for him to still be in this rage is uncharacteristic and it doesn't fit. Growth and change are great when it's handled appropriately and when it's not done for shock value, this isn't growth and change! This is the writers wanting to tell a particular story, trying to shock with another "Spider-Man will never be the same after this" and having no regards for a characters well established personal beliefs. It is against everything that Peter stands for to kill. Period! If you think otherwise than you don't have a clue about who or what Peter Parker is.

You haven't a clue what Peter has been through or what he has done. Your posts continue to display your ignorance for the man he's become.

Peter Parker would NEVER lay a hand on Mary Jane. We all know that. We never expect him to make such a error in his life. It's UNCHARACTERISTIC of him.

Right?


But it happened.

He did it.

He regretted it.

But he did it.

He was pushed to the point of a mental break down.

And he hit her in a fit of rage over "information" he didn't like.

No one was dead.

No one was hurt.

He was just lied to about who he was.

Peter is only human.

And if you cannot accept that, as that is what makes Spider-Man , Spider-Man.

That which made him famous , him being a normal human being with normal human being problems and normal human being desires, and losses and emotions.

Then you have no true concept of who Peter Parker ever was, or ever represented.


You and I.

 

[Venom07]

You haven't a clue what Peter has been through or what he has done. Your posts continue to display your ignorance for the man he's become.

Peter Parker would NEVER lay a hand on Mary Jane. We all know that. We never expect him to make such a error in his life. It's UNCHARACTERISTIC of him.

Right?


But it happened.

He did it.

He regretted it.

But he did it.

He was pushed to the point of a mental break down.

And he hit her in a fit of rage over "information" he didn't like.

No one was dead.

No one was hurt.

He was just lied to about who he was.

Peter is only human.

And if you cannot accept that, as that is what makes Spider-Man , Spider-Man.

That which made him famous , him being a normal human being with normal human being problems and normal human being desires, and losses and emotions.

Then you have no true concept of who Peter Parker ever was, or ever represented.


You and I.

Seriously? Are you kidding me? Do you just not want to admit you're wrong and you're trying to save face? Man up already and let it go.
Come on, you pick THAT incident to try and prove your point? How many people were furious when Peter hit MJ? How much debate did that cause with people saying he would never do that? I mean people to this day still go ape sh** over the whole clone saga, especially that incident! I don't think that incident has ever been touched on again because it was so out of character for Peter and infuriated people so much. (I may be wrong in that but I don't ever remember reading them mention that after the clone saga.)
But let's just give you the point and let's not argue over it, by bringing that up you just proved my point, Here's what I said...

It's one thing for him to say it immediately after the fact that he's going to kill someone but at least a few days since the shooting has gone by now, for him to still be in this rage is uncharacteristic and it doesn't fit.

When he hit MJ he acted out of character, did he become a wife beater? No. He realized his mistake shortly after and never did it again. For him to go nuts right after May is shot is to be expected, especially since he does have a tendency to be a hot head, but time has gone by and he should be thinking more rationally now. He's not a killer, he never has been, it goes against everything he is.
I mean seriously, learn your Spider-Man 101, even the reason they have him wearing the black costume is a joke. He thought it sent the wrong message? Are you kidding me?
The current group of people on ASM have consistently shown they don't give a rat's a$$ about continuity and Peter's long, rich, history. In this one storyline, they don't get the reason why he stopped wearing the black duds, they don't get how his webbing works, hell they can't even get May's maiden name right. Oh and they don't have Peter's character, his core personality right! Now that's my opinion, if you don't agree fine, but I think you're wrong. While this may be a cool storyline, it's not a good Spider-Man storyline because it's not who the character is.

 

[ArmyDragon92A]

Seriously? Are you kidding me? Do you just not want to admit you're wrong and you're trying to save face? Man up already and let it go.
Come on, you pick THAT incident to try and prove your point? How many people were furious when Peter hit MJ? How much debate did that cause with people saying he would never do that? I mean people to this day still go ape sh** over the whole clone saga, especially that incident! I don't think that incident has ever been touched on again because it was so out of character for Peter and infuriated people so much. (I may be wrong in that but I don't ever remember reading them mention that after the clone saga.)
But let's just give you the point and let's not argue over it, by bringing that up you just proved my point, Here's what I said...
When he hit MJ he acted out of character, did he become a wife beater? No. He realized his mistake shortly after and never did it again. For him to go nuts right after May is shot is to be expected, especially since he does have a tendency to be a hot head, but time has gone by and he should be thinking more rationally now. He's not a killer, he never has been, it goes against everything he is.
I mean seriously, learn your Spider-Man 101, even the reason they have him wearing the black costume is a joke. He thought it sent the wrong message? Are you kidding me?
The current group of people on ASM have consistently shown they don't give a rat's a$$ about continuity and Peter's long, rich, history. In this one storyline, they don't get the reason why he stopped wearing the black duds, they don't get how his webbing works, hell they can't even get May's maiden name right. Oh and they don't have Peter's character, his core personality right! Now that's my opinion, if you don't agree fine, but I think you're wrong. While this may be a cool storyline, it's not a good Spider-Man storyline because it's not who the character is.

So you're saying he can't wig out and mirk someone out and realise it was a mistake and never do it again?

You're being ignorant. It's obvious you're the one who's afraid of being man enough to admit your faults.

Peter Parker can do it.

If a comic book character can do it. You should too.

 

[Kevin]

Wow, this just keeps going and going. Anyway, I believe Peter is perfectly within character as... well, a character and a humen being. He broke, it's possible. If your closest relative gets shot by someone who intented on hurting you, you'll want payback. No matter what, you will not stop until you get face to face with that person. It doesn't matter how much time goes past, how much time you've had to think (And by the way, the only thing that's been on his mind is his aunt getting shot, and payback. There's no time for, "Okay, I will catch this guy and hand him over to the police, and spend time with my wife who'll help me get through this while I pray my aunt get's better." No, that's really stupid.) There, and only at the point you face them, that's when you realize that killing them will not be worth it, and justice should be held in court.

Of course, Peter will not kill Kingpin, as he's already out of jail. But whether it was Peter or fate itself that decided if he still wants to kill Kingpin is the question, which we will have to wait a few weeks to find out.