The Dark Knight Rises Bane

[TX85]

A super steroid is not outside the realm of possibility

Especially not in Nolan's universe of half real world/half sci-fi&fantasy elements!

 

[Mr. Earle]

Raybia Year Two was horrible and you should ask for a refund.

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

Year Two is pretty rough. Only good thing to come out of it was Mask of the Phantasm.

 

[PreK]

I'm fine with him just getting totally ripped. And I want to see him punch through solid walls. Otherwise, why get Bane? Bane without superstrength, you might as well get any other villain that has a rep for hunting Batman.

Not many are as visually arresting or interesting enough to headline the last Batman movie.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I agree.

It's too bad a big muscle bound villain hasn't been established yet, or even a Killer Croc type. My favorite moment of the BTAS series was when Batman found Croc after Bane kicked the **** out of him and then saw what he did to his car. As a kid being introduced to Bane for the first time, that was such a "wow" moment.

Ah, nice bring up there. I remember being introduced to this charatcer as a kid. I remember when he smashed Batman's car. The fact that anyone could do this to Batman in such a physical way blew my mind for a five year old.

 

[Saint]

With the sleeves/no sleeves discussion, I wanted to see what my previous sketch would look like with and without sleeves.

I think the no-sleeves version definitely says "Bane."

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

Perfect proof that sleeveless works just fine. Nice work, Saint.

Mercenaries (at least in movies, which is what we're dealing with - not real life!) often go sleeveless. And if that jives with Bane's classic look, why wouldn't you go with it?

 

[ALP]

I've always liked The Punisher vs The Russian fight scene. I want something like that with Batman and Bane...except more epic. I want to see Bane throw Batman through a wall, pretty much beat him straight to hell in their first fight scene. And then Batman comes back with a vengeance in the finale!

 

[MILPERSMAN]

I'm sure Nolan wanted Hardy after his performance in Bronson, who displays all of the qualities in a person like Bane.

I saw more loud mouth black mask than anything else in his performance in Bronson. Bane is more collective and kind of has this honorable samurai mentality with him. but he Explodes at the right time

 

[Nave 'Torment']

I have a theory that I so strongly believe that I will put a spoiler up. I do believe that Bane will be a hybrid but I think there is a name that haven't listed that will be very influence in the story.

Just read through your spoilers, and I think it's a sound idea. I'd be really glad if this happened because making Bane analogous to the character you mentioned adds a certain depth to him that really cements the other themes already present.

But if it were truly up to me (and obviously it isn't), I would've went Henri Ducard as the cinematic, Nolanized, version of the character you mentioned. Henri/Ra's has all those qualities, his story is told in the same "chapter" as Bruce's encounter with Chill etc. But that's just me.

 

[Gianakin_]

With the sleeves/no sleeves discussion, I wanted to see what my previous sketch would look like with and without sleeves.

I think the no-sleeves version definitely says "Bane."

Very nice. I really think he can work even without the vest.

 

[raybia]

Raybia Year Two was horrible and you should ask for a refund.

I brought it on its first run and while overall there are better stories, there are some good elements to it. Elements that I think can and will be used in TDKR.

 

[itsthebatman]

Very excited about this news, mainly because of the prospect of a real physical threat to Batman and hopefully some good fight scenes.
Besides Knightfall and Legacy, what Bane stories should I read to get a feel for the great strategist that I hear his fans talk about?

 

[raybia]

Just read through your spoilers, and I think it's a sound idea. I'd be really glad if this happened because making Bane analogous to the character you mentioned adds a certain depth to him that really cements the other themes already present.

But if it were truly up to me (and obviously it isn't), I would've went Henri Ducard as the cinematic, Nolanized, version of the character you mentioned. Henri/Ra's has all those qualities, his story is told in the same "chapter" as Bruce's encounter with Chill etc. But that's just me.

Thanks, I agree with your comments on Ducard.

 

[Weadazoid]

Yeah, Joker is a super villain for sure. There's no disputing that.

Well... I meant in a physical sense.

The Joker was an insane genious, who hated anything good, he also clearly wanted to die, become a martyr and drag as many good people down with him as humanly possible.

He was a maniack who wanted Batman to kill him in a very public way, so as to ruin the bat, to drag him down, to drag a guy like Harvey dent down.


He also clearly wanted to prove that given basicly no choice anyone will become a monster.





Bane is a different animal. I would love for Nolan to make him an ex black ops guy, a guy that has all the skill and all the training to take on Batman one on one, a guy who does so but is beaten, yet some how manages to escape.

He turns to the venom injections, for that final edge, with a promise of human perfection in his hand, he is now more then a match for Batman. It would be very interesting to see him as more of hunter of Batman then vice versa. Observing, setting things up through his connections trying to learn his weakness / habbits


Along the way doing some pretty maniachal and amazing things himself. I could see Gothams cops being taken down, one man having his jaw shattered by a punch another man having broken ribs and a punctured lung from a swift kick.


I don't think he should be able to punch through a brick wall or anything like that, just kinda make him a bigger meaner Blonsky, adgile, fast, dangerous.

 

[Broseidon1901]

I might be the millionth person to suggest this, but I'd really like to see Bane presented in the same vein as Anton Chigurh (Javier Bardem's character in No Country for Old Men). Bane hasn't struck me as a character that should have the wordy dialogue scenes like the Joker and Batman did in TDK. He seems cool, calm, and calculating. The more I think about it, you could have made Josh Brolin in No Country wear a batsuit, have Bardem gain 100 lbs. and set the movie in Gotham, and you'd have a helluva cat-and-mouse battle of wits between Bane and Batman.

 

[Solidus]

Perfect proof that sleeveless works just fine. Nice work, Saint.

Mercenaries (at least in movies, which is what we're dealing with - not real life!) often go sleeveless. And if that jives with Bane's classic look, why wouldn't you go with it?

Just as much as there are some that just bank purely on the realism side, does not mean we have to sit there and say "it's just a movie" so do what ever aesthetically pleases me.

Nolan reminds me much of Syd Mead. A man that his art is very much more so based on practicality (or at least the illusion of it) more so then just pure imagination. As with Catwoman you are going to want somethign that is used in theivery. But at the same time you need to keep some core aspects of the look. To just go purley off of the comics woudl be just a pure rip, to add something else shows that Nolan is an artist along side Frank, or Grant doing his own interpretation and view of the Bat lore.

To me I expect both. I expect that Bane will have a few different variations of his costume, maybe long sleeve and armored at first, then he rips it off or something and we get the more classical look. I want to see the sleeveless as well, but you can have a little of both.

Now this part is not aimed at you Pete by any means. But I've noticed an "attitude" towards some of the love of the more practical/realistic aspects of the Bat lore. I am some one that has been a Batman fan for over 20 years. Read comics, saw the B89 in theaters, watched all the TAS. However just as Earle see's Morrison as one of his fav interpretations of Batman I actually find Nolan to be mine. Though I always love the source material very much, to me Nolan's interpretation is just as valid as any of the other artists out there. As Saint put it one time it is like a mosaic art piece and everyone is giving their interpretation and view.

However it seems that some are kinda saying that if you love Nolan's interpretations you are not a true Bat fan. I've been a Bat fan before Nolan even made films, however I am a huge Nolan fan and I love his Batman films to death. It just seems some roll their eyes when some one brings a practical artistic view (which is most likely what Nolan will bring) to something.

However again it is just as bad when some spit on the ideas of the comics and that may seem odd or stretches of the imagination. Such as when people were wanting Joker in a brown suit and no white face. I mean there are aspects on both sides that need to be brought together. And those that just spit on the ideas of the comic sources is not good either.

I think that Nolan takes the sources and he adds practicality but tries to keep the core there. And to me that is what he will likely do again. I doubt he will change the way he does the majority of his work. Again I see him like Syd Mead, some one that just makes his art (yes it is art) into a as seemingly practical form as he can.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Since he's obviously not Latino in this movie, do you think Nolan has created a whole new backstory for Bane?

 

[RustyCage]

I would love for Nolan to make him an ex black ops guy ...

To do that would be to remove an element as vital and special about the character as Bruce Wayne's parents being murdered infront of his eyes and him spending his whole life working to be strong enough to avenge them and stop corruption from winning.

No, Bane needs his origin. And with that origin he could accomplish what you want here:

... a guy that has all the skill and all the training to take on Batman one on one, a guy who does so but is beaten, yet some how manages to escape.

And this sort of stuff would already be the case:

It would be very interesting to see him as more of hunter of Batman then vice versa. Observing, setting things up through his connections trying to learn his weakness / habbits

Along the way doing some pretty maniachal and amazing things himself. I could see Gothams cops being taken down, one man having his jaw shattered by a punch another man having broken ribs and a punctured lung from a swift kick.

 

[TX85]

Since he's obviously not Latino in this movie, do you think Nolan has created a whole new backstory for Bane?

How is Bane obviously not a latino in this movie?,Maybe Hardy will do an accent and try to look south american?????

 

[The Watchman]

The critique of the tubes was definitely valid. also for those who don't know this was by Tony Moore for the new Venom series, I just, very crudely I may add, turned it into what I expect Nolan to do with Bane.

 

[ALP]

Since he's obviously not Latino in this movie, do you think Nolan has created a whole new backstory for Bane?

Ra's in Begins was not Arabic but he wasn't given an all new backstory.

I don't think a back story is necessary in any way whatsoever. It's freakin' bane. What kind of backstory could there be? Just showing a guy pumping iron for 10 years in prison LOL

They could just mention in passing that he's an assassin who escaped from a prison in latin america. No more backstory really needed. Unlike Harvey Dent, Bane's most important arc is wrecking havoc and taking over Gotham, not his origin that leads up to it.

How is Bane obviously not a latino in this movie?,Maybe Hardy will do an accent and try to look south american?????

There are tons of people in south america with caucasian ancestry so Hardy's race shouldn't be an issue at all. But no way will Bane be speaking in an English accent so Hardy will definitely be using a different accent.

 

[The Watchman]

With the sleeves/no sleeves discussion, I wanted to see what my previous sketch would look like with and without sleeves.

I think the no-sleeves version definitely says "Bane."

I like it either way, the sleeveless may be a bit ridiculous depending on the time of year in Gotham, but I think we can suspend our disbelief since there's a guy dressed up like a bat, but damn those arms would get cold!. The mask must stay, hopefully the wrestler gear tights go. I think we'll see something along these lines.

 

[MILPERSMAN]

Since he's obviously not Latino in this movie, do you think Nolan has created a whole new backstory for Bane?

There are a lot of whites living in South America especially in Brazil and Argentina so..... no I don't think it would change

 

[Motown Marvel]

I might be the millionth person to suggest this, but I'd really like to see Bane presented in the same vein as Anton Chigurh (Javier Bardem's character in No Country for Old Men). Bane hasn't struck me as a character that should have the wordy dialogue scenes like the Joker and Batman did in TDK. He seems cool, calm, and calculating. The more I think about it, you could have made Josh Brolin in No Country wear a batsuit, have Bardem gain 100 lbs. and set the movie in Gotham, and you'd have a helluva cat-and-mouse battle of wits between Bane and Batman.

i've thought about this as well. it would make sense for the characters and would be totally entertaining to see play out.