The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Based on ASM2's box office and quality, was rebooting a mistake?

[MessiahDecoy123]

Do you enjoy ASM2 regardless of the box office performance and satisfied with the reboot?

Would you preferred Sony pay whatever they had to in order to keep the cast of the Raimi films.

Or would you just have preferred a new director and cast without rebooting the series.

Please don't vote until you have seen ASM2.

 

[spider-neil]

Love Gwen.
Love Peter.
Love Spider-Man.
Loved TASM.

So bottom line, I guess I'm glad they rebooted.

 

[LizardMan07]

Love the Peter Parker Gwen Stacy arc, best love story in a Comic Book movie, nothing beats it.
The conclusion to the love story is simply amazing, heartbreaking as you gained value from it throughout two films.
Best portrayal of Spiderman across the two films.

The reboot could have bombed but it didn't in my opinion

 

[spider-neil]

Love the Peter Parker Gwen Stacy arc, best love story in a Comic Book movie, nothing beats it.
The conclusion to the love story is simply amazing, heartbreaking as you gained value from it throughout two films.
Best portrayal of Spiderman across the two films.

The reboot could have bombed but it didn't in my opinion

This.

 

[bapi]

"I would've preferred Sony do SM4/SM5/SM6 with a new director and cast" - everybody knows PP origin so...??

 

[ban1o]

They had no choice. Raimi and the cast left. They should have just made the reboot higher quality and more inventive. First class was a reboot and was received very well because they did something different. That's what they should have done. Also they shouldn't have done the origin again considering it was exactly the same as the origin in SM1.

 

[GuestStar2004]

i'm happy we got the reboot, i was never that excited with the idea of a SM4, toby never felt like peter parker, kirsten was ok but they clearly didn't know what to do with her apart from have her captured, there was stuff that raimi just didn't seem to wanna leave alone and kept going back too for comfort and because of that we ended up getting the man who we thought killed uncle ben wasn't the actual killer...

so yeah i am glad, i am more comfortable with the current series, i am more happier with garfield as peter and spidey, i'm happy to get a funnier spider-man and to have the franchise looked at in a different way

now TASM and TASM2 were not without their flaws but i am still alot more happier with them then the raimi films

 

[spider-neil]

Sam deserved a chance to redeem himself but Maguire and Dunst were phoning it in at the end.

 

[Uncle Radiation]

Sam deserved a chance to redeem himself but Maguire and Dunst were phoning it in at the end.

Maguire really, really wasn't phoning it in. On the contrary, he gets a lot of varied stuff to do in Spider-Man 3 and he's giving it his best.

 

[ohmshalone]

I don't think rebooting was a mistake. But I don't [edit: entirely] like HOW they rebooted it. I don't think the gritty visuals and more realistic lighting (especially for the night scenes) works for a wise-cracking superhero like Spider-man. But as I stated in my review, I'm starting to appreciate the series now after seeing the second installment. Maybe I like the first 2 Raimi movies more because they came first, or maybe because I simply prefer Raimi's approach, but it's good to see things being changed up anyway.

 

[Uncle Radiation]

Do you enjoy ASM2 regardless of the box office performance and satisfied with the reboot?

Would you preferred Sony pay whatever they had to in order to keep the cast of the Raimi films.

Or would you just have preferred a new director and cast without rebooting the series.

Please don't vote until you have seen ASM2.

I'd gladly swap The Amazing Spider-Man and The Amazing Spider-Man 2 for Spider-Man 4.

The reboot has one real redeeming feature - Garfield's wise-cracking Spider-Man - and apart from that, it's an empty money-making exercise. Raimi's films were full of creativity, heart, genuinely sympathetic characters and amazing action. Webb's films just kind of exist, not knowing what to do and much of the time just copying what Raimi did anyway.

 

[spider-neil]

Maguire really, really wasn't phoning it in. On the contrary, he gets a lot of varied stuff to do in Spider-Man 3 and he's giving it his best.

The scene where he cries over Harry at the end is a disgrace (imho ).

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Love Gwen.
Love Peter.
Love Spider-Man.
Loved TASM.

So bottom line, I guess I'm glad they rebooted.

Pretty much.

 

[T"Challa]

I don't mind that they rebooted. It was a business decision that had to be made and all of us would have done the same thing if we were in charge of Sony's film division.

The problem is how the reboot was handled. It was a chance to do something new, and go in different challenging directions but thats not what happened. They're treading water and trying to build a universe simply to ape the success of the MCU. The Hobbit franchise is going through the exact same thing right now.

Garfield, Stone and Sally Field are golden and they could have really done something special but they're hitting singles instead of home runs here.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Something i think most will agree with is that the actors have been great, maybe even better then the raimi cast in terms of suitability and writing, but that one is oppinionated

 

[Uncle Radiation]

something most will agree with is that the actors have been great, maybe even better then the raimi cast in terms of suitability and writing, but that one is oppinionated

It depends on how you look at it.

For instance, I will always argue that Andrew Garfield looks more like the classic Romita Sr Peter Parker (albeit skinnier) and he has Spidey's attitude perfectly when in costume.

However, Garfield tends to make Peter a sweet, mumbling and loveable guy, and quite a cool one. The Stan Lee/Steve Ditko stories - which Raimi's movies are inspired by - are about a very, very normal, everyday kid who is bullied and put-upon, and continually struggles with the responsibility on his shoulders. Tobey Maguire really was perfect for what Raimi was doing.

And let's look at Emma Stone's Gwen. I don't think I have read a single review or comment of criticism towards Stone in the role. But is she anything like the comicbook Gwen? No. So while she's perfect for what Marc Webb is doing (sweet, mumbly, semi-improv teen romance), she's not exactly Gwen of the comics (she's really the opposite, as Gwen in the comics was prone to hysterics and obsessed with Peter, when Stone's Gwen is level-headed and takes charge). If Captain Stacy hadn't been used, she may as well have been a new character.

 

[BlackFox]

I dont mind the reboot, I just think starting from the origin story again was a mistake as it made feel more like a remake and an inferior one to the original overall.

It hasn't quite hit the heights of the original series but also to be fair it hasnt hit its depths either like SM3 did, its sort of "decentish" reboot but nothing groundbreaking yet.

In terms of box office, Im sure the name helps it do well anyway, but the reboot is good enough to make good money it seems.

 

[Joe_Kickass]

It's subjective of course, but if people felt burned by the first one, give this a chance and feel burned by it too then I won't blame them for giving up support for this series. The detractors have ground, they aren't pulling criticisms out of thin air. I definitely won't be defending the third movie though, people can feel however they want to about it up til release, I won't blame them for being unsupportive or disinterested.

 

[Avenging Spidey]

I haven't seem TASM2 and I think this thread is WAY premature, but I already know that I can and should vote on this pool. Webb's Spider-Man is the Spider-Man that I grew up reading, and I feel that rebooting was a blessing to me, so yes: thanks for the memories Raimi's Spider-Man, but I'm sticking with The Amazing Spider-Man.

 

[Uncle Radiation]

Its sort of "decentish" reboot but nothing groundbreaking yet.

Well said.

To everybody who has asked me about Amazing 2, I have told them it is a perfectly adequate, entertaining movie. Same thing I said about the first one.

But that's all they are.

And if Webb hasn't made a good Spidey film in two attempts, I don't think he'll do it with a third.

 

[InJustice]

Isn't it too early to talk about this thread given that we don't even know TASM2's box office?

 

[starkresilient]

andrew and emma feat raimi's spider-man movies would be the best for me. I love raimi's spider-man tone better but I like the casting on tasm better. a mix of webb&raimi would be my spider-man

 

[Lord]

This thread's title asks one thing, but then the thread and poll itself asks another. So i'll just say that i do like the reboot series, but that yes, it has hurt what the franchise does in the box office. Whatever most fanboys and critics thought of Spider-Man 3, most people still liked it, if they had kept Sam Raimi and let him do the best spider-man film he can as well as give more spectacle, this could be making a billion with the boost of IMAX and 3D.

Like the comics 80s comics they should have let Peter grow up and continue until Sam Raimi was done or you couldn't do anything more with it, maybe even a sequel starring Miles Morales once Peter's story was completelly finished, but rebooting so soon when these films were such big deals didn't go well with a lot of people from the general public.

 

[ban1o]

Isn't it too early to talk about this thread given that we don't even know TASM2's box office?

I guess their basing it off some of the overseas numbers. I agree it's a little premature though.

 

[Tel]

All this is going to do is become a Webb Vs Raimi debate......yet again.