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'Batgirl' movie?

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This and Sirens should be cancelled and Lobo too, throw Black Adam in there as well.

Focus on Batman not his spinoffs
 
She's actually appearing in the DC Metal Event, so she's still in the comics. She did appear on Legends of Tomorrow and will appear on that Krypton show. Plus Superhero Girls and JLU have given her a fanbase amongst millenials and generation Z. There's also Injustice and the DC mobile games.

Honestly I just remember a very luke warm to negative reaction to a Batgirl film. Her comics suck, so good luck to the creative team on making a good film! Batgirl's best series doesn't even star Barbara, it stars Cassandra.

Post is a bit old but I have several disagreements. Metal is about Batman not Hawkgirl. Babs on the other hand stars in 2 comics named after her.

She was hated on Legends and dropped after the first season. The others you mentioned also star Batgirl.

Batgirl's best and most influential series is Batgirl Year One starring Babs. The current run was nominated for an Eisner. Gail's run while polarizing is well known while the Stewart/Tarr run was so influential that DC went in to a movement called Batgirling where they changed direction of many of their titles. Steph's run by Miller also has a cult following. Cassandra's run is actually the least known, least regarded and least acclaimed. The Beechen era in particular is the worst of any Batgirl. So I dont agree with your assesment regarding Cassandra's run.
 
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I myself just applied to direct MOS2. If you didn't like Snyder's version, boy do I have a Superman for you, just wait.

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Lol wut

“Hey DC, giv me job pls.”

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Jokes aside, that woman is supposed to be a great writer. I've heard good things about "Bad Feminist" and her work on Black Panther. So.... I'd be down.
 
Roxane Gay could be the best thing that happens to this project.
 
Is that email for real?
 
We have to be honest about the situation first though. Yes, women directors don't get the same number of opportunities but that's because they are vastly outnumbered by their male counterparts. There's only so many films made each year and only so many directing places up for grabs, so it's a simple numbers game as to why there's an imbalance and directors aren't simply going to sacrifice their careers in order to give other people a chance for success. It will take years, if not decades for there to be anything close to a more even split, if it's even possible at all.

Yes, women should be given the opportunities to make big budget movies, give them more chances to pitch their ideas to studios, all for that. However I've got issue with them being offered only female heroes. It's a bad message for both sexes. For women its saying these are the only characters we trust you with, and for men it's that your gender disqualifies you from any consideration. I don't see how anyone can think this is a good message to send especially considering the argument is about equality. Leave the door open for everyone and you'll get the best person for the job.

So why are you complaining about situations in which women are being actively considered for projects? And considering how few opportunities there are for the women that are able to break the glass ceiling, are you surprised that the director pool is dominated by men?

Are you assuming that because women are being offered female characters now (which, by the way, is all they’re being offered period) that that’ll be the case until the end of time? Let’s not forget that Patty Jenkins almost did TDW and that Lexi Alexander actually directed a Punisher movie.
 
So why are you complaining about situations in which women are being actively considered for projects? And considering how few opportunities there are for the women that are able to break the glass ceiling, are you surprised that the director pool is dominated by men?

Are you assuming that because women are being offered female characters now (which, by the way, is all they’re being offered period) that that’ll be the case until the end of time? Let’s not forget that Patty Jenkins almost did TDW and that Lexi Alexander actually directed a Punisher movie.

This movie may not exactly be the best one to use as a defense :hehe:

But I agree, women need more opportunities to direct any films, period.
 
This movie may not exactly be the best one to use as a defense :hehe:

But I agree, women need more opportunities to direct any films, period.

Couldn’t tell you if it’s good or not; I’ve never seen it. :oldrazz: I only mentioned it as an example of a female director who was offered the chance to direct a male protagonist.
 
Seems to me DC/WB is still interested in a Batgirl movie, if they're reaching out to writers and making statements about female directors. Maybe it's all for show, but it doesn't appear as if they've completely given up on it.
 
Seems to me DC/WB is still interested in a Batgirl movie, if they're reaching out to writers and making statements about female directors. Maybe it's all for show, but it doesn't appear as if they've completely given up on it.

I hope we get it. The idea's grown on me since it was first announced.
 
So why are you complaining about situations in which women are being actively considered for projects? And considering how few opportunities there are for the women that are able to break the glass ceiling, are you surprised that the director pool is dominated by men?

Are you assuming that because women are being offered female characters now (which, by the way, is all they’re being offered period) that that’ll be the case until the end of time? Let’s not forget that Patty Jenkins almost did TDW and that Lexi Alexander actually directed a Punisher movie.

It shouldn’t be that way now. Chasing only female directors for high profile female characters isn’t actually solving anything, it’s still not equal opportunity because they are only being looked at for one type of high profile film whilst locking out male talent entirely. Even if it’s not the intent of the message that’s what it looks like, which just adds to the climate of division and anger that currently exists that I’m ****ing sick of. And no I’m not forgetting about Jenkins being Thor’s original director, it doesn’t discount the current issue though.
 
Eh, Gay said "movie." #ShootYourShot2018
 
It shouldn’t be that way now. Chasing only female directors for high profile female characters isn’t actually solving anything, it’s still not equal opportunity because they are only being looked at for one type of high profile film whilst locking out male talent entirely. Even if it’s not the intent of the message that’s what it looks like, which just adds to the climate of division and anger that currently exists that I’m ****ing sick of. And no I’m not forgetting about Jenkins being Thor’s original director, it doesn’t discount the current issue though.

Hiring women isn’t solving anything?

The problem, I think we can agree, is that there aren’t enough opportunities being given to female directors in general, but especially in comparison to their male counterparts. And you’re saying what little consideration they are being given doesn’t count because they have, up to this point, mostly been considered for properties that star female protagonists? With all due respect, I think that’s ludicrous.
 
Hiring women isn’t solving anything?

The problem, I think we can agree, is that there aren’t enough opportunities being given to female directors in general, but especially in comparison to their male counterparts. And you’re saying what little consideration they are being given doesn’t count because they have, up to this point, mostly been considered for properties that star female protagonists? With all due respect, I think that’s ludicrous.

Yes there is a problem which comes in a large part down to the ratio of male to female directors which is going to take probably decades to get anything close to parity, if its even possible. Where we differ is you're coming at this from the perspective that this is the best way to encourage women into the industry and generate more opportunities. I'm saying it risks doing the opposite because most women don't want to be hired because of their gender and don't want to be pandered to. It's essentially the creative equivalent of telling girls they can only play with dolls. And the flip side is it's signally to male directors these characters are reserved for women only, which means you're diluting your talent pool when choosing the right person for the job. These characters should be open to everybody interested in taking them on. There are good ways and bad ways to encourage women into becoming directors, this is not a good way.
 
Yes there is a problem which comes in a large part down to the ratio of male to female directors which is going to take probably decades to get anything close to parity, if its even possible. Where we differ is you're coming at this from the perspective that this is the best way to encourage women into the industry and generate more opportunities. I'm saying it risks doing the opposite because most women don't want to be hired because of their gender and don't want to be pandered to. It's essentially the creative equivalent of telling girls they can only play with dolls. And the flip side is it's signally to male directors these characters are reserved for women only, which means you're diluting your talent pool when choosing the right person for the job. These characters should be open to everybody interested in taking them on. There are good ways and bad ways to encourage women into becoming directors, this is not a good way.

You misunderstand me. I don’t think this is the best way. I’ve said many times that I understand your concerns and where you’re coming from. I just think that you’re looking at this from an idyllic point of view.

In a perfect world, women would be considered for Batman, Superman, and Spider-Man as well as Wonder Woman, Batgirl, Black Widow, Captain Marvel, and (insert female character here). But the reality is: we’re not there yet. And if we want to get there, opportunities need to be seized and capitalized on.

So women are mostly being considered for female characters. So what? What's important is that they’re now - finally - a part of the conversation and are actively being looked at to helm projects that are going to be seen and supported on a global scale. That’s huge. And once women “prove” (insert eye roll here) they’re just as capable as any man at directing blockbusters (thanks Wonder Woman!), we can push the boundaries even further.

It’s not the best way to go about things, but like I said: I consider this a first step.

But perhaps we should just agree to disagree? I’m starting to get uncomfortable speaking on the behalf of women. :O
 
Batgirl has been a popular superhero for more than 50 years, but has never gotten her own movie. The movie was to be based on the Batgirl story that was first unveiled in DC Comics in 1967, when Barbara Gordon, the daughter of Gotham City police commissioner James Gordon, appeared as the character in “The Million Dollar Debut of Batgirl!” by writer Gardner Fox and artist Carmine Infantino.

http://variety.com/2018/film/news/joss-whedon-batgirl-movie-exits-1202708059/

So, it sounds like Whedon did have a story planned before exiting the film.
 
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