Batman R.I.P.

Robin and Nightwing did pretty good with it, so far. Detective Comics isn't bad either. Dini's actually written Hush's character the best since Loeb. Nyugen's art isn't my cup'o tea, but I can stand it enough to enjoy the story. The only problem I have is trying to figure out what Hush has to do with the 'RIP' story in the first place.

Hate to say it, but I agree with the fact that the title that's telling the main portion of this story is the one that's lacking. :csad:
 
Hush wants to kill Batman before Doctor Hurt and his crew does, thats his part in the "RIP". :P Maybe he and Joker will kill the people who want to kill Batman if necessary? >_>
 
You made, it's the only one that has made any sense and actually done something in the story.

this is just ridiculous. Critique the book all you want, but saying they make no sense and have nothing 'done in the story' is just moronic.



why do people pretend RIP is somehow beyond their comprehension when they wanna complain about it? that just makes no sense, you're only dogging yourself if anything. what's next, you have trouble reading the back of a cereal box?
 
this is just ridiculous. Critique the book all you want, but saying they make no sense and have nothing 'done in the story' is just moronic.



why do people pretend RIP is somehow beyond their comprehension when they wanna complain about it? that just makes no sense, you're only dogging yourself if anything. what's next, you have trouble reading the back of a cereal box?

You're kidding yourself if you think this book is easy to understand. I think we all get the jist of it, that being the Black Glove is trying to kill Batman (in a very roundabout, James Bond Villans would even laugh at there plan, kind of way). But the s**t like Zur-En-Arrh, Bat-Mite, the Jokers pointless scene are all incredibly hard to keep up with unless you have an encyclopedic knowledge of Silver Age Batman comics. I'll bet even you've had to check wikipedia to figure out what some of the crap going on was reffering to.
 
You're kidding yourself if you think this book is easy to understand. I think we all get the jist of it, that being the Black Glove is trying to kill Batman (in a very roundabout, James Bond Villans would even laugh at there plan, kind of way). But the s**t like Zur-En-Arrh, Bat-Mite, the Jokers pointless scene are all incredibly hard to keep up with unless you have an encyclopedic knowledge of Silver Age Batman comics. I'll bet even you've had to check wikipedia to figure out what some of the crap going on was reffering to.
Ya I know whats going on but it is still very confusing. I don't quite get why things are happening the way they are I am finding myself not caring and ya Zur-en-arrh! Also Black Glove honestly feels like a big joke.
 
Jokers scene I'll admit was pretty screwy, but that was a printing error, not writing

otherwise things like Batmite and the Zur En Rah reveal at the end, of course they're supposed to be intriguing or out of place, or yes even confusing. But just because people don't see the significance INSTANTLY they get up and call Morrison a hack because he writes things they 'don't understand'. Except this kind of writing happens in movies or TV all the time; if you don't get something straight away you just roll with it and wait and see where it goes. But not with Morrison, nooo, if he does it he's a drug-addled pretentious hack.

And no I don't think you don't need the Silver Age issues to understand the basic significance of anything in RIP. They're just historical/continuity context that bring a whole other level for people who do want to know it - and most importantly, I think this kind of writing in comics needs to be loudly applauded, not thrown in the too hard basket. Re-examining abandoned continuity and different portrayals of Batman, the kind of cuts and pacing he's using, Morrison is doing things you can ONLY do in a comic medium.

Otherwise it's simple, Batmite IS either a hallucination or a real-life other-dimensional imp that appears when Batman is stressed out; Batman of Zur En Rah is how he sees himself while he's hallucinating; and the fact he's been hallucinating without realizing it has been made very clear over the last half dozen issues. What's so hard about that. He takes as a name the words that have been tormenting him. Why? I dunno yet, there's still two issues left. I check Wikipedia because I want to know more but I'm pretty sure that if I didn't have internet I'd be able to follow and appreciate this story anyway.

Also it is important to consider that the easy majority of regular comic readers DO have internet access. So yeah boo hoo for them if they're interested in a story enough to do some 5 min background research in wikipedia :whatever:. I dunno, I thought that would be a positive thing. Morrison using two mediums simultaneously to tell one story is to me very clever. I don't see why it shouldn't be admirable as well.
 
You're going under the same idea that Morrison is, that people have all this knowledge. And then there is the fact that a writer shouldn't need to make his readers go on the internet and look stuff up, just so they know what the hell is going on.

I find nothing clever about the story. He's spent a few issues jumping around, referencing random things and now it's time to tie it up. And for what? So Bruce can step down for a small amount of time? That's the big payoff? Absurd, if you ask me.

I'll agree with the others. The main title is the one lacking. The side stories, like the one featured in Robin have been fantastic. Same with Detective Comics.
 
You're going under the same idea that Morrison is, that people have all this knowledge. And then there is the fact that a writer shouldn't need to make his readers go on the internet and look stuff up, just so they know what the hell is going on.

I find nothing clever about the story. He's spent a few issues jumping around, referencing random things and now it's time to tie it up. And for what? So Bruce can step down for a small amount of time? That's the big payoff? Absurd, if you ask me.

I'll agree with the others. The main title is the one lacking. The side stories, like the one featured in Robin have been fantastic. Same with Detective Comics.

I totally agree. Honestly I've read every issue and I know more about this story now that I've been talking about it online than I did reading the story. I shouldn't be required to have someone else explain the story to me (other than the author).
 
Giving homages to the Silver Age is one thing, but out right referencing old stories that the common reader has no clue about is just plain bad story telling. I shouldn't have to visit these boards, Wiki and Google just to understand what is going on. Not to mention there are so many panels and scenes that almost seem to be pointless (the Joker is one).

Writing a mystery that makes the reader think is one thing. Writing a mystery and making it so convoluted is another thing. At this point I don't care about a homeless man, the Black Glove, Batman of Zur - whatever. I just want the ARC over , so that we can see what this supposed payoff is.
 
Giving homages to the Silver Age is one thing, but out right referencing old stories that the common reader has no clue about is just plain bad story telling. I shouldn't have to visit these boards, Wiki and Google just to understand what is going on. Not to mention there are so many panels and scenes that almost seem to be pointless (the Joker is one).

Writing a mystery that makes the reader think is one thing. Writing a mystery and making it so convoluted is another thing. At this point I don't care about a homeless man, the Black Glove, Batman of Zur - whatever. I just want the ARC over , so that we can see what this supposed payoff is.
his writing is more like Lost then a real mystery. He has us looking in one direction only to say "you were suppose to be over here and what you were looking at doesn't matter and we won't address it later"
 
Though I'm finding some elements rather baffling, overall I'm really enjoying "Batman R.I.P.". Before this arc began, I stuck exclusively to Detective Comics, but this storyline has really got me interested in reading more from Grant Morrison.

I'm thinking of going back and getting "Batman And Son" in TPB, and getting the hardback of "The Black Glove" when it comes out next month. Do they come recommended?

And while I'm on the subject of Morrison, I'm also considering getting into "All-Star Superman", with all the praise it's been getting. But with the ending for that approaching, it may be too late in the game to start. Are issues #10 and #11 good in their own right, or do I need to get everything that came before it?
 
If Bruce dies(which he better ******* not) Damien will probably take over.
 
Damian is too young. It would most likely be Tim as Batman, Damian as Robin.
 
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if you thought it was weird before.......

http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=20624
 
Tim is drawn as still being small,there is no way they will make him Batman now.It will be Dick Grayson.
 
[Morrison pitching the story]

Morrison - "Ok then after he is drugged he will sew his own costume and it will be all sorts of colors!!"

Exec - "Um...why?"

Morrison - "cause thats what I do when I am high!"
 
in batman 666, damien said he wouldn't e as good as his dad or dick grayson, i think that means that dick will be batman, morrison also said that 666 had alot of hints.
 
I've been thinking a lot about the isolation tank experiment and the idea that Batman was trying to think like the Joker. In Grant Morrison's Arkham Asylum the Joker's persona is described as a form of "super sanity" in which he has no personality of his own and can recreate himself to cope with the conditions of the world around him.

I'm just wondering if this is what's happening with Batman?
 
I hope this is not the much talked about new Costume hes suppose to be getting???

I said that a long time ago and everyone said I was crazy, but I firmly believe this is the much hyped costume change we are suppose to get. And if so, honestly, what a friggin' let down.
 

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