Batman R.I.P.

[Mee]

Uh, what?


He doesn't even look that bad, hair's messed up and he hasn't shaved....whoa! Better disguise than Superman's glasses!

 

[Mister J]

I generally stay away from stories like these. They come across as transparent stunts, always promising 'that things will never be the same!' , 'the greatest challenge yet! ' something of the like. I rather read stories that don't have the subtlety of a sledgehammer, in seeking to effectuate some sort of grand change. That said, I haven't bothered with this arc. However, I did get curious and just read the Wikipedia entry, along with some of the comments here.

Great Hermes!, this reads like a cluster****.

 

[laudanum09]

^i dunno if youve checked any of it out but you might want to consider trying it out. I'm really enjoying batman and sons and R.I.P., particularly grant morrison's strain. I have to admit, it is very much Morrison. I was looking for great storytelling, grand conspiracies, paranoia and the 'sledgehammer' oddness Morrison is known for, and I certainly got it. Some of the great aspects include the fake Batmen (There is a Bane-esque version, a more normal one, and a 'satanic' one which is my favorite), the fantastical treatment of the pretty believable Black Glove conspiracy (tying into prior lore), and Wayne's eccentricites are really brought to the fore with that subversive Morrison twist. If you're a fan of his work you should enjoy it, but if not perhaps continue to stay away.

 

[Majic Walrus]

Honestly I think Morrison dosed acid 1 too many times and I agree with Mister J, these stories are generally speaking stunts to increase sales for aq short period of time. I think we're all confident that they're never going to kill Batman forever. Just like they didn't kill Ollie, or Hal, or Supes, or Barry Allen (keep reading folks..). That being said though I still read the comics I still want to know what happens. Even if I know it's just a stunt I still want the story. It's why I read all the crisis books and 52 and countdown. They were stunts, some of them weren't even any good. But especially with Batman it's like a soap opera addiction! And who knows? Maybe Morrison's work will prevail in the end.

 

[javi1024]

did anybody check out the new Detective Comics and the Hush story. i dont know how its supposed to be tied in to R.I.P. but i really liked it. cant wait to see what Dini has planned.

 

[Nepenthes]

I generally stay away from stories like these. They come across as transparent stunts, always promising 'that things will never be the same!' , 'the greatest challenge yet! ' something of the like. I rather read stories that don't have the subtlety of a sledgehammer, in seeking to effectuate some sort of grand change. That said, I haven't bothered with this arc. However, I did get curious and just read the Wikipedia entry, along with some of the comments here.

Great Hermes!, this reads like a cluster****.

You avoid stories that simply try to offer something or new or affect some kind of meaningful change? That just seems stubborn. If it's a good story, it's a good story right?. And even then event stunts like Death in the Family and Knightfall aren't exactly masterworks, they're pretty mundane in terms of quality when you sit down to read them imo, but you still have to appreciate their value for shaking up the batman mythos. They're great as character building events in the timeline. Why can't RIP be the same?

 

[laudanum09]

^thats totally how I feel. although I feel like they're advertised in a way that might be read as 'transparent stunts', I feel like the content of what I've read so far of Morrison's run at least surpasses something like say the Death of Superman among others. I feel like the challenges that arise to face Batman are really dense and add a lot to the general mythos. The Fake batmen emerging, having the GCP murder their families and submit them to the type of psychological torture they assume Batman must have endured at some point in his life, all of thats pretty heavy in terms of the consequences of Batman's existence in Gotham and, like TDK, severely questions Batman's sanity and the theme of escalation that his war on crime creates.

On top of that you have the whole Black Glove conspiracy. Another great way of pushing the idea that there might indeed be a nemesis that Batman will inspire that has resources far greater than Wayne (something like Ra's but more 'freak' oriented). Also the villains and story pacing remind me of animated episodes or other like serials. Lots of stuff packed into a short read, dense but entertaining and certainly 'marketable' for its promise of more. 'More' usually means bad but in this case its just more great storytelling and intrigue.

The Black Glove's hold on Bruce is his mind. It reminds me of that TAS episode (and comic) where Hugo Strange steals Batman's identity and bids it to the winning supervillain, but this is on a much larger scale.
Although Morrison does sprawl quite a bit, it all coheres in an intellectually satisfying way (for me at least) not to mention being great serial storytelling. I don't really care if they want me to buy more comics so long as they remain true, well written stories that help expand the Batman mythos.
Not to mention the short story is one of my favorite pieces of Joker literature I've ever read.

 

[Majic Walrus]

I'm excited for the changes permanent or or not. Although I would like to see a book like Legends of the Dark Knight come back so that we can get our feel of Batman action while we wait.

 

[twilitezoner]

I'm excited for the changes permanent or or not. Although I would like to see a book like Legends of the Dark Knight come back so that we can get our feel of Batman action while we wait.

I miss Legends as well. A lot of people don't like all the Silver Age references in RIP.

 

[THE LEECH]

I have yet to start RIP and I have a question about when it picks up in Detective Comics? Sorry if this was answered already, I did not want to go through the thread and get something spoiled.

 

[Majic Walrus]

I have yet to start RIP and I have a question about when it picks up in Detective Comics? Sorry if this was answered already, I did not want to go through the thread and get something spoiled.

I think it picks up with Detective this coming month. I've always liked Detective more but I definately suggest picking up all of the other issues of Batman as well as Robin, Nightwing, and The Outsiders as well if you're die-hard into the story. You wanna be sure to get all the information and not be left hanging.

 

[CaptainClown]

so far I am not quite getting R.I.P.

 

[Quinzel]

They already killed him in the one's where Damien is Batman.

I hated them. They suck.

I bought one and kept it only to remember not to buy another one like it.

 

[Superboy-Prime]

when is 679 coming out i went to all 3 comic book stores here and they only had 678 still

SB-P

 

[Dark Victory]

so far I am not quite getting R.I.P.

Yeah same here. I honestly don't think anybody is except for Morrison

 

[Majic Walrus]

when is 679 coming out i went to all 3 comic book stores here and they only had 678 still

SB-P

http://dccomics.com/dcu/comics/

 

[Nepenthes]

Yeah same here. I honestly don't think anybody is except for Morrison

I don't feel like looking up the sales figures but clearly alot of new readers are buying Batman now. Morrison did the same to X-Men, he comes on and titles explode.

 

[Majic Walrus]

I don't feel like looking up the sales figures but clearly alot of new readers are buying Batman now. Morrison did the same to X-Men, he comes on and titles explode.

That is very true. Actually Morrison is one of my least favorite writers, but he does have an excellent way of bringing in new readers and even if his stories are alot like getting kicked in the balls by a mule, it looks like people like that.

 

[TheDarkKnight08]

That is very true. Actually Morrison is one of my least favorite writers, but he does have an excellent way of bringing in new readers and even if his stories are alot like getting kicked in the balls by a mule, it looks like people like that.

Same here. I'm liking RIP slightly, because I feel there'll be a big payoff in the end, but other than that, whatever. I'm just hoping he doesn't **** up Batman more than he already has, with the exception of a few stories.

 

[Majic Walrus]

Same here. I'm liking RIP slightly, because I feel there'll be a big payoff in the end, but other than that, whatever. I'm just hoping he doesn't **** up Batman more than he already has, with the exception of a few stories.

lol. I'm terrified he's going to do another issue like #666.

So far it hasn't been that awful, but I'm saving my judgement for the big pay off too.

 

[Nepenthes]

RIP is already one of my favourite Batman stories i think

 

[CaptainClown]

I don't feel like looking up the sales figures but clearly alot of new readers are buying Batman now. Morrison did the same to X-Men, he comes on and titles explode.

Well I am simply getting it because I want the comics of the supposed death of Batman. One of those things I wouldn't mind collecting and could be worth something. I do think it is garbage though and am having trouble actually caring. Glad you like it though, I knew Morrison had to have some fans.

 

[Majic Walrus]

I've always been a big fan of Detective Comics and I can't stand not being able to have the whole story. I just hope that this doesn't affect the mainstream Batman as much as say Ollie Queen or Hal Jordan dying. I really don't think Batman is one of those characters that can "pass on the mantle" so to speak. It's always been hinted at and we've seen that in Elseworlds and different timelines and universes, but in the main DCU...

Batman R.I.P. is like being on a rollercoaster that hasn't been approved for usage yet. It seems really fun, but there's always that nagging feeling that at any moment you could fly off the track and into the drink.

 

[CaptainClown]

I generally stay away from stories like these. They come across as transparent stunts, always promising 'that things will never be the same!' , 'the greatest challenge yet! ' something of the like. I rather read stories that don't have the subtlety of a sledgehammer, in seeking to effectuate some sort of grand change. That said, I haven't bothered with this arc. However, I did get curious and just read the Wikipedia entry, along with some of the comments here.

Great Hermes!, this reads like a cluster****.

I checked it out cause some day it might be really rare....yup..

 

[BubbaGump]

so far I am not quite getting R.I.P.

I am. Especially after the last issue, everything is starting to make sense to me.

I checked it out cause some day it might be really rare....yup..

Me too! I want R.I.P. to pay for college lol!