BBC's Sherlock: Series 2

My point is, in a world where bunnies can be made florescent, what's so crazy about a dog that's been genetically manipulated to be extremely large with glowing red eyes?
In the real world they have glosing bunnies and glowing cats but I'd still never believe my own eyes with a genetically manipulated beast with glowing red eyes.

Bloody hell....

Sherlock-
Bloody Hell.... HOW THE ****???? seriously, how the **** did he survive the fall?
Just a theroy. [BLACKOUT]Homeless net took his pules and he bearly survived. There had clearly been a passage of time but I wouldn't be surprised to find he was still feeling in in the graveyard.[/BLACKOUT]

Gotta wait until tomorrow for this to come online. Please tell me Moriarty isn't annoying in this episode.
Moriarty never annoyed me so I loved this episode.
 
While i never found him annoying to begin with...... i think he was a bit relaxed compared to the 1st season finale

I didn't find him annoying either, so I had no problem with him, but I think he went up 6 notches on the crazy scale in this ep - much more than in S1 finale.

As for Holmes surviving the fall, that's down to Molly. Watson getting conveniently hit by a cyclist, thus rendering him disorientated meant that he wouldn't quite see clearly. I'd go with a variation on the idea that Molly got hold of a body from the morgue, dressed it like Sherlock, and either swapped it for the real Sherlock who landed on a mat, or Sherlock threw the body over the ledge. That was the favour he asked of her, to help him cover up his fake death with that, and probably by fudging dental/DNA records of the corpse. I reckon anyway!
 
I didn't find him annoying either, so I had no problem with him, but I think he went up 6 notches on the crazy scale in this ep - much more than in S1 finale.

As for Holmes surviving the fall, that's down to Molly. Watson getting conveniently hit by a cyclist, thus rendering him disorientated meant that he wouldn't quite see clearly. I'd go with a variation on the idea that Molly got hold of a body from the morgue, dressed it like Sherlock, and either swapped it for the real Sherlock who landed on a mat, or Sherlock threw the body over the ledge. That was the favour he asked of her, to help him cover up his fake death with that, and probably by fudging dental/DNA records of the corpse. I reckon anyway!

I was thinking you were on to something till you started talking about [BLACKOUT]the fake body being the jumper.[/BLACKOUT] That doesn't work for me. [BLACKOUT]Molly might've got a hold of Sherlock after he fell to save him though.[/BLACKOUT]
 
Gotta wait until tomorrow for this to come online. Please tell me Moriarty isn't annoying in this episode.

In my opinion the guy is hamming it up even more this time, so it can get annoying if you don't like this portrayal.

Great episode makes me sad that it could be another year and half until Series 3 rolls along.
 
I enjoyed the episode a lot. Really great acting all around. I look forward to learning how Sherlock survived.

Just a thought: In the past month, we've had two depictions of the famous Reichenbach Falls duel, but neither have really shown it as a duel. In A Game of Shadows it is a chess match followed by Holmes [blackout]pulling Moriarty over the edge before they can fight[/blackout] and in Sherlock [blackout]Moriarty kills himself[/blackout]. I'd kind of like to see the actual duel on screen. :funny:
 
I also loved how they kept referencing the deerstalker in the past 3 episodes. It seems this Sherlock would never willing wear it on his own.
 
That's it - Sherlock left us and John clues. His entire final message... someone had to have had a view of both John and Sherlock. There had to have been a way to block the vision of the guy looking at him. How did he do it? We're meant to figure it out. Sherlock's message... there's something in there. And the biker knocking John over... We need to solve this. Molly would've done the autopsy, but how did he fake the fall?
 
I thought there was going to be a Cougartown Abbey like ending.

Now we just gotta wait two years for series 3. :(
 
I was a bit disappointed by the ending. Moriarty killing himself just isn't as good as the fight between Holmes and Moriarty in Switzerland, falling down the Reichenbach falls. I was surprised when Sherlock didn't throw Moriarty off the building, but that was presumably intentionally not done. Still a good show, but they could have been a bit more ambitious, setting wise.
 
Damn what great episode even my dislike for hammy Moriarty couldn't ruin how good a episode this was.

I loved
Moriarty's plan to destroy Sherlocks reputaion. Because Sherlock was so great if slightly cocky he made other people look and feel inferior so they were all to happy line up and call him a fraud or believe he was behind all the crimes.

In this reality age people are distrustful and cynical. They are quick to call things to good too be true and Moriarty played on that weakness.

Thats pretty clever.

One thing that confused about the episode was
If there was no master computer code how did Moriarty change his identity. Did he have people wipe his original indentity for him?

As for the ending
As others have said Sherlock asking for Mollys help, choosing the location of where to meet Moriarty, the biker conviently crashing into Watson all played a part in Holmes plan to survive in my opinion
 
Damn what great episode even my dislike for hammy Moriarty couldn't ruin how good a episode this was.

I loved
Moriarty's plan to destroy Sherlocks reputaion. Because Sherlock was so great if slightly cocky he made other people look and feel inferior so they were all to happy line up and call him a fraud or believe he was behind all the crimes.

In this reality age people are distrustful and cynical. They are quick to call things to good too be true and Moriarty played on that weakness.

Thats pretty clever.
As a dyslexic person I've never liked how we have words that sound the same but are spelt different (There/Their) or sound different but spelt the same (Read "reed"/Read "red"). But for what ever reason it bugs me that you got "to good too be true" wrong. It should be "too good to be true"

Anyone who says I missed "They're" out of my examples are wrong, it's an abbreviation and doesn't count!

One thing that confused about the episode was
If there was no master computer code how did Moriarty change his identity. Did he have people wipe his original indentity for him?

As for the ending
As others have said Sherlock asking for Mollys help, choosing the location of where to meet Moriarty, the biker conviently crashing into Watson all played a part in Holmes plan to survive in my opinion
Anyway what I really wanted to say...
The poilce started to view Sherlock as a fake genius and to really top it off, the evidence that planted the seed of doubt would've been the biggest rookie mistake of them all, he walked into a room with a subject who knew him as the kidnapper. He's apparently smart enough to set up this ruise, yet not smart enough to talk himself out of that room? :huh:

It felt quite forced that the police would turn on him like that so fast and so easy. It really made them out as quite dumb puppets.

The thing about Moriarty [BLACKOUT]changing his identity, I think Moriarty would be smart enough to have a few back up plans like fake aliases set up from the very begining. Being an actor might've worked in the old stories but I really fail to see a children's actor taking payment to be a super crook in today's world. Would've been better is he had said he was homeless and therefor really needy.[/BLACKOUT]
 
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Loved it again, and I think im in the minority that thinks Moriarty works well within that world
 
A theory as to how [blackout]Holmes survived his fall[/blackout].

Sherlock is on the roof, he places the call, talks to Watson, throws the phone and jumps. Watson sees him jump and fall, but does not see him land. We, the audience, see a body hit the floor (no face visible) but John doesn't. This body hitting the floor is not Sherlock, but the corpse procured by Holly, having been rolled out of the truck in front of the building. Holmes lands in this very truck that is filled with (visible) garbage bags and presumably padding. The shot immediately following is of Watson running forward and looking around the corner, where he sees the corpse lying on the floor, highlighting the fact that from where he was previously standing he could not see the impact. The "random" bicyclist then hits Watson.

When Watson is hit, the crowd of random bystanders that appeared out of nowhere moments earlier (Moriarty remarks that there is an audience gathering) are obscuring the view of the corpse. I'd put money on them being a part of the act, possibly Sherlock's homeless network that gets a mention earlier in the episode without any real necessity. Sherlock switches with the corpse that John saw on the floor, and plays dead. The corpse is put back onto the back of the truck, and it's at this point we see the truck pulls away. Watson now looks up, stumbles to his feet and over to Holmes who is now playing dead, but Watson insists on checking on his fallen friend (as Sherlock would deduce, as John's a doctor). Watson checks Sherlock's pulse (easy enough to fake) and it's here that we are shown Sherlock's face, confirming that Sherlock would have had to have switched back with the corpse.

Now, what I haven't been able to put together is how exactly Sherlock would know that the confrontation with Moriarty would end with him having to take his own life, but it is Sherlock after all. However, there are a few points that lend credit to the fact that Sherlock not only knew what his fate was, but was planning for it. First, when confronting Molly before he tells her he needs her, he remarks that he's going to die. Nothing would suggest this, in fact up until this point Sherlock correctly deduces the fact that Moriarty is planning to kill his reputation - not him. Second, he gets someone to call John away under the false pretence that Mrs. Hudson has been shot, that opens up a window for Sherlock to put his plan in place/meet Moriarty without suspicion. Finally, Sherlock sets the meeting place, Bart's Hospital rooftop. Convenient, as Molly works in the morgue.
 
Haven't seen anyone else post this, but yes, series 3 is a go.

https://***********/#!/steven_moffat/status/158680970130751488
 
I'd say this is what perfect television is.

On Moriarty's plan. The reason why it "worked" was

because of Sherlock. He has embarrassed and insulted these people time and again. Its a give me a reason moment. Logic wasn't in play. Lestrade has seen Sherlock solve cases, save lives and has watched people die during Sherlock's investigations. He knows the score, but Sally and her adulterous friend hate him and pretty much went over Lestrade's head. When you want something to be true bad enough, it is easy to make it work in your head, no matter how farfetched.

I loved the "duel".

Sherlock completely underestimated how insane Moriarty truly is. How much his massive intellect has isolated him and destroyed any semblance of a human being.

What I love about this Moriarty is that he shows the true importance of Watson and Sherlock's other loved ones. How they keep him from losing himself in the same manner.

Finally, Molly.
Very clever work. Sherlock's constant bad behavior with her blinded Moriarty to just how truly important she is to him.
 
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EDIT: Apologies. Brain fart on the rules.
 
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You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain

He's the hero London deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So, we'll hunt him, because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. Sherlock Holmes.
:)

If only Cumberbatch and Freeman will pause their present assault on Hollywood we might get more episodes and quicker.

They both have major franchise movies they are working on though so I doubt it.
 
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Such a fantastic episode, kudos to Moffat & Gattis for pulling off another great series, all the three episodes has been more or less great.

Scott's Moriarty was a bit off-putting first time I've seen him back in the first series since he's quite eccentric but it's refreshing to see a different take on the character and it grew on me, he put up some fine performance in this episode.
 
This Moriarty reminds me a lot of TDKR Joker especially how he commits suicide just to **** the hero over. It's a different take to what we've had before which is probably why people find him jarring. Jared Harris is perhaps the perfect Moriarty of the Conan Doyle Stories but I find Scott's interpretation equally chilling albeit in a different way.
 
OMG A Scandal in Belgravia with Irene Adler was such an amazing episode. I couldn't believe the password to Irene's phone was [blackout]"I am SHER lock"[/blackout]. I love how Irene out smarted Holmes up until he discovered that she actually was falling in love with him and he used that to beat her in the end .
 
Just like Moriarty's "heist", the solution is probably something simple.

Pay off some hospital staff. Fake stop his heart with a drug.Spill some blood.

Excellent finale.
 
Moriarty was a lot more tolerable this time around. He seemed to be just the right side of annoying for once. I dunno, he just seemed more natural this time... every other time, I could see the acting coming out. It worked for me in this episode.

Pretty much a perfect episode. As a barrister myself, I must admit that Sherlock's schooling of the Prosecution Counsel tickled me :funny:
 
I just realized:

They never did specify how Moriarty implanted Holme's image in the children's mind. This makes me wonder if it is somehow connected to the mind control techniques in 'Hounds' or something entirely different. I suspect it is how Holmes deceived Watson into believing his death.
 
I just finished watching The Hound of the Baskervilles and The Reichenbach Fall , Sweet mother of .... this series is brilliant I was on the edge of my seat. I loved how they reinvented The Hound for a modern story with the [blackout] usage of a fear chemical similar to The Scarecrow's "Fear gas" from Batman mythology.[/blackout] The real treat that really blew my mind was "The Reichenbach Fall" which is a reinvention of "The Final Problem" Holmes vs. Moriarty final showdown. The ending blew my mind HOW THE HELL DID HE DO IT ?!!!!
 

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