Because I'm tired of this **** - Goku vs. Superman - The end of all polls

[dnno1]

I don't see why not

The avergae comic nowadya is considered a hit if it sells 100,000 copies a MONTH. In its hey day Shonen jump sold over 8 MILLION copies a WEEK.

Even factoring in the head start I say its possible especially considering the decline in popularity of comics at the tail end of the golden age and Spider-man and Marvel thoroughly ass kicking Superman and DC during the silver age

Definately head to head Shonen Jump trounces superman to this very day

Like I said before, you have to consider the cultures involved here. Japaneese culture is more visual (as to why their alphabet uses characters instead of letters) whereas Western cultures are more textual. Therefore, picture books are all the rage in Japan and hence sell in such high volume. On the other hand that is not the case in Western cultures. If you'll notice Shonen Jump manga sells for around (US) $10 in the west compared to about $2-$3 in Japan. This is due to the high volume of books that are sold in Japan versus the west (the publisher can afford to sell it for less and still make a still make his profit). This still doesn't mean that Superman is not anymore popular. Keep in mind that the Superman franchise consists of more than just a few long running comicbook titles. It is also merchadising, television showsm and films (something that Goku and DB has yet to catch up to). When Son Goku gets to 40+ years and reaches icon status, then you can start challenging Supermans popularity. Outside of that, this is all I can say about a match-up between the two:

 

[saiyan jedi]

IN WWII THERE WHERE ENOUGH NUKES ON EARTH TO BLOW IT UP 400 TIMES.
TODAY IT'S JUST ABOUT 25 TIMES.

there have never been enough nukes to destroy earth
just mess up the suface
actually destorying the earth takes MUCH more
power

 

[dnno1]

No destroying a planet is NOT easy

Every nuke on earth blowing up at the same time wouldn't destroy earth so stop talking rubbish.

LOL you think the utterly ******ed amnesia kiss is a good show of power? bwhahahaaaaaaaaaaaa

Whats really funny is Goku stopped having stories 10 years ago whilst supes is still going to this very day. Thus his feats get more extensive and his power gets raised all the time. Head to head (ie when they were both published) Goku would have picked his ass with Superman. In fact if Torayama finished DB partly because he found it difficult to do anything more with Goku because he'd have to keep making him more and more powerful. Those were the rules he made for him (a SSJ has potentially unlimited power). He painted himself into a corner with the character.

I threw the amnesia kiss in for laughs. Actually I never said that (we) humans could destroy a planet. I said (in theory) they could destroy the world (which means all life on the planet). My point here was that it is easy to destroy things - much easier than it is to create. So destroying thing is not all that impressive.

 

[The Hurricane]

As someone who loves both characters and is well educated in both areas. Not with Superman prime but thats the thing with this pole. It isnt superman prime. I believe Goku would win. Superman Prime well thats another arguement. But yes this is a popularity contest

 

[Guyverjay]

Like I said before, you have to consider the cultures involved here. Japaneese culture is more visual (as to why their alphabet uses characters instead of letters) whereas Western cultures are more textual. Therefore, picture books are all the rage in Japan and hence sell in such high volume. On the other hand that is not the case in Western cultures. If you'll notice Shonen Jump manga sells for around (US) $10 in the west compared to about $2-$3 in Japan. This is due to the high volume of books that are sold in Japan versus the west (the publisher can afford to sell it for less and still make a still make his profit). This still doesn't mean that Superman is not anymore popular. Keep in mind that the Superman franchise consists of more than just a few long running comicbook titles. It is also merchadising, television showsm and films (something that Goku and DB has yet to catch up to). When Son Goku gets to 40+ years and reaches icon status, then you can start challenging Supermans popularity. Outside of that, this is all I can say about a match-up between the two:

Geez you really do spout alot of irrelevent rubbish don't you?

I merely stated that its certainly possible (and probably lilely) for Shonen jump to haver outsold superman despite supes being around alot longer. The reasons why, supermans merchandising and pretty much everything else you said is irrelevent

I mentioned nothing about popularity either

I threw the amnesia kiss in for laughs. Actually I never said that (we) humans could destroy a planet. I said (in theory) they could destroy the world (which means all life on the planet). My point here was that it is easy to destroy things - much easier than it is to create. So destroying thing is not all that impressive.

Also irrelevent when we are talking about battle.

Gokus ability to destroy a body that a billion nukes cannot represents serious power. Being able to terraform a planet using the power cosmic (silver surfer) is also a display of serious power but that wont help surf when he's fighting Thanos.

I'm sure Leonardo da vinci can paint a better picture than Bruce Lee but I don't see him winning in a fight

 

[dnno1]

Geez you really do spout alot of irrelevent rubbish don't you?

I merely stated that its certainly possible (and probably lilely) for Shonen jump to haver outsold superman despite supes being around alot longer. The reasons why, supermans merchandising and pretty much everything else you said is irrelevent

I mentioned nothing about popularity either

I think that you and others are trying to imply that DB and hence Goku is more popular than Superman due to the amount of comic books (which by the way he featured in along with other stories) sold. The bottom line is that Goku is no way as popular as Superman (and this is relevant). If that is not your point, then you shouldn't be bringing this issue about the number of comic books he sold up.

Also irrelevent when we are talking about battle.

Gokus ability to destroy a body that a billion nukes cannot represents serious power. Being able to terraform a planet using the power cosmic (silver surfer) is also a display of serious power but that wont help surf when he's fighting Thanos.

I'm sure Leonardo da vinci can paint a better picture than Bruce Lee but I don't see him winning in a fight

I will cut to the chase here since it is obvious that you don't understand what I am saying or don't want to. Destructive capability is not a sole indicator of one opponent being able to defeat another. If given the right setting even the weakest of us can destroy the most formidable of things. If Leonardo DaVinci were given the time to prepare for a fight against Bruce Lee he would have built this and used this on him:

Multi Barrel Gun
(invented by Leonardo DaVinci)

DaVinci may not have known karate but he did know Gun-Fu (among other things). Just because you can destroy things does not equate into being able to win in battle. That takes the combination of strength, skill, and cunning (smarts). In the world of fiction though, popularity is also a significant intangeable that will decide the outcome, which I think Superman has hands down.

 

[Shadow_Knight]

Goku without a dought.

 

[Aidan06]

I think that you and others are trying to imply that DB and hence Goku is more popular than Superman due to the amount of comic books (which by the way he featured in along with other stories) sold. The bottom line is that Goku is no way as popular as Superman (and this is relevant). If that is not your point, then you shouldn't be bringing this issue about the number of comic books he sold up.






I will cut to the chase here since it is obvious that you don't understand what I am saying or don't want to. Destructive capability is not a sole indicator of one opponent being able to defeat another. If given the right setting even the weakest of us can destroy the most formidable of things. If Leonardo DaVinci were given the time to prepare for a fight against Bruce Lee he would have built this and used this on him:

Multi Barrel Gun
(invented by Leonardo DaVinci)

DaVinci may not have known karate but he did know Gun-Fu (among other things). Just because you can destroy things does not equate into being able to win in battle. That takes the combination of strength, skill, and cunning (smarts). In the world of fiction though, popularity is also a significant intangeable that will decide the outcome, which I think Superman has hands down.

and you think some idiot with a gun is more honorable and better than a guy who has a TRUE skill, a legend? ¬¬

 

[Gotenks]

Bruce lee would murder that guy no doubt even with that thing.

 

[SSJ4_Mikael]

What about some. blow up the planet they are fighting on and instant-transmission out of there so the other one suffocate, run out of oxygen.

 

[Leto Atrides]

and you think some idiot with a gun is more honorable and better than a guy who has a TRUE skill, a legend? ¬¬

Are you saying Bruce Lee is more of a legend and has more skill than Leonardo DaVinci?

 

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Are you saying Bruce Lee is more of a legend and has more skill than Leonardo DaVinci?

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Well you put them both in a cage and said that only one could leave alive, then I'd bet my cents on Lee-san

 

[OMEGAVEGETTO]

superman has the cool outfit, goku has a monkey tail sticking out of his ass

superman fights darkseid the sovereign ruler of apokolips, goku fights a big pink dude that looks like kirby after a course of steroids

superman has a fortress of solitude, goku lives in a bubble

superman is a member of the justice leauge of america, the greatest collection of heroes the earth of has ever seen, all with the coolest outfits ever in the history of everything who have saved the world and the universe contless times

goku helps a old green wrinky alien who has a black manservant and then goes "training" for a few years while his kid and friends get the **** beaten out of them !!!

superman

the dude with the tail sticking out of his ass

goku would kill all them , even the kids who get the s#!t beat out of them... goku is just as fast(in a fight) if not faster than superman..goku's battle knowledge is far superoir to superman's..he may be dumb in other cases but battle wise, hes a fighting machine..also in the dragonball universe goku and the z fighters are earths version of the justice league

 

[OMEGAVEGETTO]

oh and i extremly late with that quote and reply lol

 

[Leto Atrides]

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Well you put them both in a cage and said that only one could leave alive, then I'd bet my cents on Lee-san

Bruce Lee was a martial artist and actor. da Vinci was one of the worlds greatest artists, scientists and inventors and a genius.

Who the hell cares who would win in a cage fight?

The guy said Lee was more of and more honorable and "better" than some "idiot with a gun."

Are you really going to try to defend that?

 

[Guyverjay]

I think that you and others are trying to imply that DB and hence Goku is more popular than Superman due to the amount of comic books (which by the way he featured in along with other stories) sold. The bottom line is that Goku is no way as popular as Superman (and this is relevant). If that is not your point, then you shouldn't be bringing this issue about the number of comic books he sold up.


I don't give a rats ass what you THINK I'm trying to say. I KNOW what I'm saying. I merely responding to some ones else point about units sold. I didn't bring up popularity. I'll sayi it again its likely that shonen jump has outsold superman. THATS IT, thats the only point I was making




I will cut to the chase here since it is obvious that you don't understand what I am saying or don't want to. Destructive capability is not a sole indicator of one opponent being able to defeat another. If given the right setting even the weakest of us can destroy the most formidable of things. If Leonardo DaVinci were given the time to prepare for a fight against Bruce Lee he would have built this and used this on him:

Multi Barrel Gun
(invented by Leonardo DaVinci)

You actually bothered to bring up "prep time"? With Prep time Bruce would throw a shuriken through leos eye before he could get that ancient contraption of his to even work. Btw I NEVER said being able to destoy was the sole measure of power. Wow you should become a porn star since you seem enjoying putting things (words just incase you don't get it) into peoples mouths

DaVinci may not have known karate but he did know Gun-Fu (among other things). Just because you can destroy things does not equate into being able to win in battle. That takes the combination of strength, skill, and cunning (smarts). In the world of fiction though, popularity is also a significant intangeable that will decide the outcome, which I think Superman has hands down.

Did I say it did? But in a fight with Goku superman being able to do Planetscape gardening means NOTHING. Goku is a martial arts master, a man dediacted to the art of fighting. I think that would no doubt come in handy in a fist fight don't you. As for popualrity don't make me laugh, totally irrelevent. Thats like me saying well Spider-man can beat the Living tribunal because he's obviously more popular

 

[dnno1]

and you think some idiot with a gun is more honorable and better than a guy who has a TRUE skill, a legend? ¬¬

Did you ever see that scene in "Raiders of the Lost Arc" where Indiana Jones takes out the Arabian swordsman with his pistol? My answer to your question is yes. A win is a win.

 

[OMEGAVEGETTO]

superman can even beat super buu

 

[OMEGAVEGETTO]

cant*

 

[Guyverjay]

Did you ever see that scene in "Raiders of the Lost Arc" where Indiana Jones takes out the Arabian swordsman with his pistol? My answer to your question is yes.

LOL and how did that guy have skill?

He stood still waving his sword around like a show boating buffoon

Besides all you have to do is bring up a another Ford film-- stars wars-- to see what someone with a blaster will accomplish against a trained lightsabre weilder

 

[dnno1]

LOL and how did that guy have skill?

He stood still waving his sword around like a show boating buffoon

Besides all you have to do is bring up a another Ford film-- stars wars-- to see what someone with a blaster will accomplish against a trained lightsabre weilder

He had skill as a swordsman, and if Jones had chose to fight him in that arena it is most certain that he would have lost (his life). Being powerful is being able to overcome adversity with out any rules or restrictions and being able to overcome requires the right balance of skill, cunning, and strength. If anything was idiotic it was your insinuation that DaVinci would have to fight Bruce Lee in a cage match. That's like telling Batman to fight the Hulk without his utility belt.

 

[SSJ4_Mikael]

Bruce Lee was a martial artist and actor. da Vinci was one of the worlds greatest artists, scientists and inventors and a genius.

Who the hell cares who would win in a cage fight?

The guy said Lee was more of and more honorable and "better" than some "idiot with a gun."

Are you really going to try to defend that?

nope, i am on the-one-that-invented-the-prototype-of-the-tank-and-airplane's side

 

[dnno1]

Bruce lee would murder that guy no doubt even with that thing.

A firearm is a standoff weapon and hence martial arts are ineffective. Without a comparable weapon, Bruce Lee would loose.

 

[PWN3R]

Are people really arguing about this???


Wow.....

 

[dnno1]

I hope you guys are having fun. ^Nice avatar^