Ben Affleck IS Bruce Wayne/Batman - Part 1

[TheTarkKnight]

Give him white contacts

Exactly. Bruce goes to great lengths to dress like a bat for a purpose, why wouldn't he put on white contacts that would make him look like a creature even further? I for one would love to see lenses like in the Hush comic book or a better version of what Nolan gave us in TDK where Batman has lenses in the cowl he can activate that serves different purposes such as heat sensing, sonar, night vision, etc. I'm not sure I want the Deadpool white eyes, it did look comic book-y to me.

As for Wilkinson's comment: I don't want a "nod", I want the white eyes daggunum!

The best part is, in this day and age, we have the technology to do it! [insert $6MM man meme]

In fact, here's a guy who has white contacts on his Red Robin cowl, and I think it looks awesome:

 

[morningmimosa]

I'm pretty sure that the contacts aren't actually on the cowl but on his eyeballs. But I agree, white contacts like in the concept art would be pretty neat (though I imagine that they tested them and might have decided that it wasn't the best route to take for various reasons).

 

[Polux]

Yeah, that's the thing; here we can go all like "this would look great!", "this would totally work!!"; but the people working n these movies run dozens of wardrobe and lighting tests, considering the lighting, the color palette, variations on costumes, etc; what I'm saying is, us nerds might be convinced that something could totally work and they're idiots for not doing what we want, but they are the professionals for a reason... and they're working really hard on this...

Polux.

 

[idiot09]

I remember that scene where Bats in his batmobile first meets Supes, and in that moment there is a closeup of his face in the mask, and his eyes do most of the acting. Its one of the reasons I dont want them to do the white lenses. It takes the eyes away. Imagine the warehouse scene at the end where he walks up to that criminal and punches him in the gut, I think of how imposing and visceral that felt, and the white eyes sort of take that away.

For now, I am happy we got this :

 

[Da-Scribe]

I'll be honest in saying that my belief is already fully suspended at the idea that Bruce Wayne can, on his own, put on his costume and apply his eye make-up (that somehow comes off with the cowl) within seconds/minutes. However, the idea that this man also puts in contacts is where the line is crossed for me.

That's literally all I can picture and it's just too stupid for words. I know it's probably just me, but I gotta stand in my truth.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I believe he should have tech contacts like the arkham games.

 

[morningmimosa]

In my head canon, Bruce applies paramagnetic paint which only turns black when it receives the required electric impulse from the cowl.

 

[TheRedWraith]

I'll be honest in saying that my belief is already fully suspended at the idea that Bruce Wayne can, on his own, put on his costume and apply his eye make-up (that somehow comes off with the cowl) within seconds/minutes. However, the idea that this man also puts in contacts is where the line is crossed for me.

That's literally all I can picture and it's just too stupid for words. I know it's probably just me, but I gotta stand in my truth.

What if he is always wearing them and they are just in stealth mode.

 

[TheRedWraith]

And yeah, I noticed (and loved) the white eyes in the security footage; I never thought of it as more than a little easter egg, since those kind of light effects are quite common in low quality footage, you know? You probably have had your picture taken when your pupils look red or white because of the way the refracted the light in the very second....

Anyways, Bats could have been wearing lenses or not, I'd like to think he has'em and hopefully we'll see them in the future in a more "creature-like" way; this being a more "comic-booky" universe than the Nolan series and with all the people involved being big comic fans, I don't see it beyond the real of possibility....

And good think in moving this combo over here guys, we don't wanna derail other thread...come on...we're better than that...


Polux

I actually think for the Nolan verse considering he supposedly had all of the next gen top of the line stuff, that high tech contacts would have made a great deal of sense, if not in BB, or TDK, then certainly in TDKR where 8 years supposedly passed, really that is another problem I had with the tdk suit, the fact that despite being told it was so advanced at the time the top of the line in development stuff being explored in real life was much more advanced than that. If they had been fully applying the logic that he had access to top of the line stuff, then he should have had gel armor that could harden on impact along with plates placed strategically.

 

[Polux]

I actually think for the Nolan verse considering he supposedly had all of the next gen top of the line stuff, that high tech contacts would have made a great deal of sense, if not in BB, or TDK, then certainly in TDKR where 8 years supposedly passed, really that is another problem I had with the tdk suit, the fact that despite being told it was so advanced at the time the top of the line in development stuff being explored was much more advanced than that. If they had been fully applying the logic that he had access to top of the line stuff then he should have had gel armor that could harden on impact along with plates placed strategically.

Yeah, I see what you say; I think it had a lot to do with the intention of establishing a more "verosimile" universe minding what they (the filmakers) would think the audience would find acceptable within the already earned (although maybe inaccurate) reputation of "realistic" the franchise had.

Once you had a more sci-fi, fantastical universe, you can go a little crazier with things, as we see the more comic bookness of Beastfleck when compared to Bale.

All different interpretations equally valid and entertaining, I'd say (but yeah, I get your point)


Polux

 

[Jekecy]

I'll be honest in saying that my belief is already fully suspended at the idea that Bruce Wayne can, on his own, put on his costume and apply his eye make-up (that somehow comes off with the cowl) within seconds/minutes. However, the idea that this man also puts in contacts is where the line is crossed for me.

That's literally all I can picture and it's just too stupid for words. I know it's probably just me, but I gotta stand in my truth.

If we're going full sci-fi/fantasy/comic-book, the lenses could be explained as a 24/7 wearable tech (like the AA games). The ability to cloud itself (for the ghostly effect) is just a fancy addition Bruce would implement for when he's on his nightly prowls.

 

[KillerWolf]

I'll be honest in saying that my belief is already fully suspended at the idea that Bruce Wayne can, on his own, put on his costume and apply his eye make-up (that somehow comes off with the cowl) within seconds/minutes. However, the idea that this man also puts in contacts is where the line is crossed for me.

That's literally all I can picture and it's just too stupid for words. I know it's probably just me, but I gotta stand in my truth.

Well, I just cooled off when it comes to this idea.

In my head canon, Bruce applies paramagnetic paint which only turns black when it receives the required electric impulse from the cowl.

This reminds me... I've come across a "mistakes on film" video about BvS recently and lack of black paint when Bruce took his cowl off was mentioned as one of those... then I remembered same thing being said regarding Bale's Batman in TDKT. Is it because of Keaton's "panda eyes" that people keep assuming he is wearing facial paint under the cowl in-universe?

I mean, I thought it was clear that there's not supposed to be paint around his eyes, but is the only way to make the cowl look like an actual mask while providing big enough hole for actors to see properly (and not injure their eyes) and we're simply supposed to assume that cowl covers everything, but eyes and roll with it.

 

[TheRedWraith]

Yeah, I see what you say; I think it had a lot to do with the intention of establishing a more "verosimile" universe minding what they (the filmakers) would think the audience would find acceptable within the already earned (although maybe inaccurate) reputation of "realistic" the franchise had.

Once you had a more sci-fi, fantastical universe, you can go a little crazier with things, as we see the more comic bookness of Beastfleck when compared to Bale.

All different interpretations equally valid and entertaining, I'd say (but yeah, I get your point)


Polux

Well then I think they should have instead of limiting themselves and compromising what they were supposedly doing (which was Batman in the real world of 2005, 2008 and 2016) instead they should have broadened the audiences idea on what advanced truly was for the time period. I personally think they should have had Bruce ask Lucius to whip him up a new suit so that for the first Bane fight he would use the old, then for the second Lucius finished it in time for it to be made before Bane took over then he could get it for the second fight.

 

[TheTarkKnight]

Yeah, that's the thing; here we can go all like "this would look great!", "this would totally work!!"; but the people working n these movies run dozens of wardrobe and lighting tests, considering the lighting, the color palette, variations on costumes, etc; what I'm saying is, us nerds might be convinced that something could totally work and they're idiots for not doing what we want, but they are the professionals for a reason... and they're working really hard on this...

Polux.

No, it will absolutely work! Mark my words! LOL

I agree, I wish it were that simple. A fanboy can dream though, right?

 

[Polux]

No, it will absolutely work! Mark my words! LOL

I agree, I wish it were that simple. A fanboy can dream though, right?

That's why we're all here, I guess...


Polux

 

[WitchTrialz]

Yeah I'm not into white eyes for a live action Batman, it would look like Ben is a blind man fighting criminals (and Ben us already played that part ).

The only thing I want to change is Bens voice. I get he wants to do a voice changer to conceal his identity but it's just a bit TOO techy for me.

I've always just wanted what we got from anitmated series Batman, Bruce using his normal voice with a darker inflection

 

[AnneFan]

I wasn't that keen on the sonar eyes in TDK. It was okay for a brief sequence, but full time? Not really my thing.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

The white eyes can work if they instill retracting lenses under the cowl.

This way he can use them for intimidation as well as some sort of detective mode, and switch back to no lenses whenever he wants.

 

[Mrs. Wayne]

Yeah I'm not into white eyes for a live action Batman, it would look like Ben is a blind man fighting criminals (and Ben us already played that part ).

The only thing I want to change is Bens voice. I get he wants to do a voice changer to conceal his identity but it's just a bit TOO techy for me.

I've always just wanted what we got from anitmated series Batman, Bruce using his normal voice with a darker inflection

Although I've gotten used to it, I still wish his voice changer didn't make him sound mechanical. Bruce uses a voice changer in the Batman Telltale Series game and despite it sounding a bit generic, I'd rather Batfleck sound like that with his voice changer.

 

[matt47]

I like the voice as is. Maybe a little lighter when talking with allies would help.

 

[AnneFan]

Yeah, I like the voice. It ticks the boxes. It's intimidating enough, disguised and doesn't sound silly.

 

[morningmimosa]

I love the voice modulation. I'm pretty sure that he is gonna turn it off when discussing stuff with the league.

 

[AnneFan]

I love the voice modulation. I'm pretty sure that he is gonna turn it off when discussing stuff with the league.

He may just take the mask off completely, ala the behind the scenes clip where he enters the batcave with the other heroes.

 

[Polux]

I love it too, but if they head towards the way is was during "knightmare" (more bass, no mechanical effect), I'd be cool with it too.


Polux

 

[THE WOLF]

Voice was great and very practical

If only Nolan thought of something like that