Justice League Ben Affleck IS Bruce Wayne/Batman - Part 4

[King23DC]

Because it's a miniature shot that doesn't really hold up when you freeze frame it.

No way. Grew up on this movie since I was 4 ... knew of all the miniatures. Burton loves them. But never in a million years thought that quick snippet was ... I’m almost positive that’s a stunt man.

 

[Greens]

No way. Grew up on this movie since I was 4 ... knew of all the miniatures. Burton loves them. But never in a million years thought that quick snippet was ... I’m almost positive that’s a stunt man.

His head is almost as big as his torso.

 

[lukebrodyg]

Someone should do a timeline from when it was first confirmed he was directing and staring in the next Batman solo to his most recent “we’ll see.” comments.

It’s honestly hard to keep up anymore...

 

[mari100]

Why?

All I see is:
1) Batman
2) The Dark Knight

and

3) Ben Affleck

How does his cape glide when he’s not even holding it? Looks so stupid physics wise.

As for him not wanting to play the part anymore is that a big surprise after lying saying he wanted to direct then lying at this most recent comic con he wanted to continue to play the part. He was serviceable anyway, so good riddance. If he can’t stand the heat then stay out the kitchen. Only someone with passion for the character would play him for three films ahem Bale ahem. GOATs don’t quit.

I love how some people around here pretend to forget that every time Ben was asked about whether he would direct the Bat solo, for months prior to him dropping out, he always said he wasn't sure, but that they were working on it and if it came the script came out of alright and if he felt he could handle the pressure, only then he would do it. There's countless occassions when he addressed it in that way, it almost became a sound-byte.I always got the sense that the WB executives where trying to push him in a way, more than he was fully willing to.But, since after having spent an entire press tour that was supposed to be about his own movie he spent 4 years working on and no one cared to respect it, because all everyone asked was BATMAN movie! BATMAN movie! he finally caved in to get people off his back and said on Kimmel he was working on the movie so people should stop asking or worrying about, that's the only detail that has remained on the consciousness' of many. And now it's like he lied, because that must have been so much fun for him if that was the case. The guy had just been hit with bad reviews on sth he's very passionate about, and was already in alcohol treatment by that point, I assume things only got worse for him to go to rehab a month later and then oficially file for divorce, but God forbid there's more important things in people's lives than making these movies for some. So OK. Keep saying that.

And yeah, sure if he doesn't want to continue playing the role, it's because he's a quitter who doesn't deserve the role. Not like BvS having that abysmal reception wasn't a factor at all when he had previously been so enthusiastic about the role, despite it being a big gamble after having won an Oscar for Argo and not wanting the Daredevil thing to happen all over again, on the opposite, wanting to redeem himself in the superhero genre with a good movie. He gave an interview with LA times this year during the LBN promo, and said he genuinely didn't expect the BvS to get those kinds of reviews so he was definitely affected by it. He might have been the most praised part of that movie, but being the most recognisable part of it as well, the joke was on him. Again. That must have been so much fun. I can't imagine.

 

[mari100]

Someone should do a timeline from when it was first confirmed he was directing and staring in the next Batman solo to his most recent “we’ll see.” comments.

It’s honestly hard to keep up anymore...

I'll help you with that. With the exception of the Kimmel appearance, he always said "we'll see" in regards to directing.

 

[KalvinEllis]

Disappointing. Ben sounded very enthusiastic back at Comic Con.

 

[BaneandDawn]

It sounds like the rumours about Affleck not wanting to play Batman might be true! Not surprising.

https://batman-news.com/2017/11/07/ben-affleck-not-batman-much-longer-video/

I remember Collider first dropped this news in January. I thought it was ***** rumor, but maybe it's true after all.

 

[lukebrodyg]

I'll help you with that. With the exception of the Kimmel appearance, he always said "we'll see" in regards to directing.

Touché.

But I do remember him saying “we’re still making this, etc” after dropping out as director but that doesn’t nullify your well-made points above.

 

[King23DC]

Affleck on national television ... yes I’m directing The Batman

Two weeks later ... I’m no longer directing The Batman

Affleck at comic con ... yes I’m not leaving playing the character of Batman

Few months later ... We’ll see about playing Batman in the future

Do you see any other actors or actresses waffling, and being this indecisive to commit to any future movies? Or coming across so unenthusiastically about it?

Stop playing the mental gymnastics folks, Ben just doesn’t seem that interested. That or he already knows the quality of justice league is bad. And he no longer wants the skid mark of this to drag on his resume. Even though his last directed movie was absolutely terrible.

Anyway, it’s no huge loss. He didn’t kill it in the role like a Robert Downey Jr or something.

 

[Arachnerd]

I'd at least want him to make the solo movie with Reeves before he hypothetically goes.

 

[mari100]

Lying? I don't believe he was lying at all. He had every intention of doing what he's no longer involved with. He probably realized he took on too much and didn't think he could write, direct and act; doing the character justice. Affleck has never done a movie of this magnitude (He stated as much). He didn't realize what he was getting into. It's very possible he's in the midst of working something out with WB and can't divulge any details...hardly surprising. I could very well be wrong, but it's silly to blow every word out of proportion. But I guess that's fandom. Like one of the posters stated above, he has one more movie left on his contract and I hope he fulfills it. I think he's been a very good Batman. I don't believe his passion is any more or less than Bales. They just handle things differently.

Affleck's one downfall is his obvious uncomfortable nature with the press interviews and fandom that comes with the role. That, or he may be like me and just never look really comfortable and have a perpetual miserable look on his face. Either way, I don't blame him. He reminds me very much of Timothy Dalton and his press interviews. He clearly wanted to be elsewhere.

I don't know why people are so bothered or draw so much conclusions based on his "miserable" look. It's not like he's ever been rude or dismissive or not tried to do his best to promote these movies and be a good sport, even at the hardest moments coinciding with his personal life. He's been up for anything despite it probably being hard at times to face the press. He even went to Cinema Con this year, just a week after rehab. Some people in his position could have taken a pass. And Ben has never been entirely comfortable with the press or the fame aspect in itself, that much has always been clear. People assumed that because he dated J.Lo at some point in the early 00's, he must be some kind of attention ****e or sth, when it was the opposite. The media threw all that crap on him because they got obsessed with that relationship and it coincided with some questionable career choices and as soon as it was over and he could could get out from the mess and disappear from the spotlight, work on his own low-profile projects that's what he did, deliberately, for a decade. That's why he said he became a director, in the first place. It's only after Argo and taking on this role that he has had to step back in that position. Going through some personal problems in the public eyes, hasn't helped, so maybe people should give him a break if he doesn't always look happy as a clam.

 

[BaneandDawn]

Apart from Collider

THR reported this:

But a source with knowledge of the situation says that the studio is working on plans to usher out Affleck’s Batman — gracefully, addressing the change in some shape or form in one of the upcoming DC films.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...as-warner-bros-plots-franchise-future-1023296


Casey Affleck said this in August.

"No, he was great. He was great. He's a hero, so he had something to channel and work with there. But he's not going to do that movie [The Batman], I don't think. Sorry to say."

Here is the clip. It starts from 6:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxLnOrpywno

 

[mari100]

Affleck on national television ... yes I’m directing The Batman

Two weeks later ... I’m no longer directing The Batman

Affleck at comic con ... yes I’m not leaving playing the character of Batman

Few months later ... We’ll see about playing Batman in the future

Do you see any other actors or actresses waffling, and being this indecisive to commit to any future movies? Or coming across so unenthusiastically about it?

Stop playing the mental gymnastics folks, Ben just doesn’t seem that interested. That or he already knows the quality of justice league is bad. And he no longer wants the skid mark of this to drag on his resume. Even though his last directed movie was absolutely terrible.

Anyway, it’s no huge loss. He didn’t kill it in the role like a Robert Downey Jr or something.

I'm referring to the entire year BEFORE he appeared on national television this year. He went through the entire promotion of an other movie called The Accountant relentlessly being asked those questions as well. And he appeared on national television many other times too previously to the Kimmel appearance, saying each and every time, he wasn't sure if he would do it. Really, dude? Do you want me to give you examples? Cause we'll be here all day.

And the rest of the actors haven't been committed to writing and directing duties as well, regarding this franchise or any franchise as far as I know. And unlike many actors working on this movies, who are excited to have a first big check or an opportunity to play these roles, Ben already had an established career before and has had other options to consider. So idk how you can make comparisons on his position to other actors. Besides, it's not the actor's or even the studio's job to let the press or fans know about every decision they make at any given moment, just because some feel entitled to it. Behind the scenes, things could be much more clear for everyone involved.

 

[King23DC]

Disappointing. Ben sounded very enthusiastic back at Comic Con.

Do you really think he’d be that candid in a huge auditorium full of super geeks

 

[matt47]

Do you really think he’d be that candid in a huge auditorium full of super geeks

This. You could tell he was trying to be enthusiastic at CC.

 

[I Am The Knight]

He was doing PR at CC. He would never say "I'm quitting!" in front of thousands of fanboys.

 

[King23DC]

This. You could tell he was trying to be enthusiastic at CC.

It was clearly a sell job. Actors have to sell their product and hype fans even when they know it sucks. Some of you are way too gullible in what you want to believe. This guy has proven his word means nadda time and time again.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

I'd at least want him to make the solo movie with Reeves before he hypothetically goes.

If Reeves (as rumored) has a three movie narrative in mind, then I'd rather they didn't recast after the first one.

He has one movie left on his contract... but that can take any shape.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Just say that his cameo in SS means that Fleck has fulfilled his contract and go from there

 

[Boom]

If Reeves (as rumored) has a three movie narrative in mind, then I'd rather they didn't recast after the first one.

He has one movie left on his contract... but that can take any shape.

That's really the crux of it. People keep saying, "I just want Affleck to make one Batman movie with Reeves! I just need one film!"

Let's say Affleck did make one Batman film with Matt Reeves, fulfilling his contract. Furthermore, let's say Reeves completely knocked it out of the park. I already know what those same people would say:

"That movie was incredible! I cannot wait for a sequel!"

Too bad, because Affleck is no longer under contract.

And there's your problem. If you can't lock Affleck down for a new three-film commitment going into this, you're jeopardizing a potential Batman franchise. Don't think for one second that WB only has interest in making one Batman film, and even Reeves has hinted that he had ideas for a trilogy. It's a franchise. The studio will be thinking about the big picture. One actor isn't worth putting that on the line for, especially an actor who doesn't seem all that eager to continue.

It's better for everybody involved to just get Justice League out there, let Affleck walk away amicably, and recast the part. Simple as that.

 

[TheScarecrow]

That's really the crux of it. People keep saying, "I just want Affleck to make one Batman movie with Reeves! I just need one film!"

Let's say Affleck did make one Batman film with Matt Reeves, fulfilling his contract. Furthermore, let's say Reeves completely knocked it out of the park. I already know what those same people would say:

"That movie was incredible! I cannot wait for a sequel!"

Too bad, because Affleck is no longer under contract.

And there's your problem. If you can't lock Affleck down for a new three-film commitment going into this, you're jeopardizing a potential Batman franchise. Don't think for one second that WB only has interest in making one Batman film, and even Reeves has hinted that he had ideas for a trilogy. It's a franchise. The studio will be thinking about the big picture. One actor isn't worth putting that on the line for, especially an actor who doesn't seem all that eager to continue.

It's better for everybody involved to just get Justice League out there, let Affleck walk away amicably, and recast the part. Simple as that.

Agree with this.

There's no point having someone there for a paycheck. He either wants to be Batman or he doesn't. It's not like they won't get someone else for the part.

 

[BigSams50]

Honestly,. im all for a 3 art Reeves film that ends with Batman dieing/retiring and Grayson taking his place with Damian as his Robin. Would be an awesome dynamic on screen like it was in the comics. A lighthearted batman with a brooding Robin

 

[Nemeres]

There's also the chance that if Reeves's Batman film does well in every department, that'd be all the encouragement Affleck needs to stay for more. Added to the perks he'd get from the studio for his own projects as director, perhaps. It'd be the best-case scenario he probably had in mind when he signed on for the role.

If not, a clean recast is the best way to go. No passing of the mantle. They shouldn't have to do without Bruce Wayne in their universe just bc Affleck wants out.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Man, Ban does not look happy in these interviews.

 

[KillerWolf]

What are you all on about? He actually seems more relaxed than in BvS interviews to me.