Justice League Ben Affleck IS Bruce Wayne/Batman - Part 4

[KillerWolf]

Heh...

https://www.reddit.com/r/DC_Cinematic/comments/7a239e/humor_batman_kicking_aliens/

 

[Da-Scribe]

Yeah, I don't remember Ben looking like that during the reshoots. His face was funky looking during principal, but when reshoots came around I just remember him being a little more puffed up.

 

[King23DC]

I think they just slimmed his face down with CGI. Remember he was all chubby-faced when they went in for reshoots. I don't mind it. It would be more jarring for him to have a way fatter face from one shot to another.

Affleck looks terrible in this ... and his performance looks way too relaxed and phoned in

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

^ Agreed about his appearance in the reshoots, as well as performance.

In DOJ, when he felt he's given an inescapable fate..he's legitimately fearful.

In JL, Bruce doesn't seem afraid of parademons.

Or even against a superpowered being shoving him against the wall.

And there's really nothing in the JL footage that makes Ben seem like he's taking on another role, just doing a more whispery version of himself.

Bruce in DOJ

Bruce in JL

I think because Affleck created more or less goodwill (outside of the infamous "Martha!" moment)..very few people seem concerned about his performance in JL.

I am one of these few. With BVS, it seemed like he really wanted to bring out the Frank Miller Batman..but with JL, it looks like Affleck is going for a "paycheck role."

I'm hoping the trailers are hiding his performance and that he can be redeemed for "The Batman."

But honestly..he's coming across as bland in every TV spot/trailer I've seen.

Some of that is the way it appears Batman is written (perfectly smart, perfectly tough, above average physical abilities), but it's like Affleck seems to be coasting on "It's Batman, so people will care, anyway."

 

[eledoremassis02]

^ Agreed about his appearance in the reshoots, as well as performance.

In DOJ, when he felt he's given an inescapable fate..he's legitimately fearful.

In JL, Bruce doesn't seem afraid of parademons.

Or even against a superpowered being shoving him against the wall.

And there's really nothing in the JL footage that makes Ben seem like he's taking on another role, just doing a more whispery version of himself.

Bruce in DOJ

Bruce in JL

I think because Affleck created more or less goodwill (outside of the infamous "Martha!" moment)..very few people seem concerned about his performance in JL.

I am one of these few. With BVS, it seemed like he really wanted to bring out the Frank Miller Batman..but with JL, it looks like Affleck is going for a "paycheck role."

I'm hoping the trailers are hiding his performance and that he can be redeemed for "The Batman."

But honestly..he's coming across as bland in every TV spot/trailer I've seen.

Some of that is the way it appears Batman is written (perfectly smart, perfectly tough, above average physical abilities), but it's like Affleck seems to be coasting on "It's Batman, so people will care, anyway."

To be fair this could be backlash for people complaining about him being too dark and broody in BVS...you know batman!

 

[King23DC]

I think because Affleck created more or less goodwill (outside of the infamous "Martha!" moment)..very few people seem concerned about his performance in JL.

I am one of these few. With BVS, it seemed like he really wanted to bring out the Frank Miller Batman..but with JL, it looks like Affleck is going for a "paycheck role."

I'm hoping the trailers are hiding his performance and that he can be redeemed for "The Batman."

But honestly..he's coming across as bland in every TV spot/trailer I've seen.

Some of that is the way it appears Batman is written (perfectly smart, perfectly tough, above average physical abilities), but it's like Affleck seems to be coasting on "It's Batman, so people will care, anyway."

Absolutely spot on.

Only on SHH or comic book sites was Affleck’s BvS performance ridiculously overrated. Calling him the best Batman ever, etc. His best doesn’t hold a candle to Keaton’s first outing, let alone Bale in the Trilogy.

But he definitely looks unmotivated and a hollow shell of at the very least a solid attempt of an engaging and interesting Bruce / Batman portrayal in BvS.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

To be fair this could be backlash for people complaining about him being too dark and broody in BVS...you know batman!

Like..just don't have Batman kill/brand people. His personality was fine.

Like, I feel like there's a kind of-and I hate to use this word because I don't really know-laziness down to the makeup design.

Almost like.."you're sold on his Bruce Wayne..now we won't put in the effort to transform him."

That's a terrible thing to say, but he looks so much better in the last film that it isn't funny.

 

[GothamBat]

I think you lot should wait until after you've seen the movie before judging his performance. The sample size we have as of now is waaay too small to make these statements

 

[Arachnerd]

Plus, they're without context.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

I think you lot should wait until after you've seen the movie before judging his performance. The sample size we have as of now is waaay too small to make these statements

That would be ideal..but..I can say "this is what looks to be happening, hope I'm wrong."

I remember everybody complaining about Eisenberg's Luthor based on what was seen (with the occasional "Wait for the movie" rebuttal) ..and TBH, his character was WORSE in the final movie than any of the trailers.

Even if I'm right, Affleck will still be better than George Clooney.

Hopefully I'm wrong, and Ben will create the definitive comic portrayal in JL.

 

[King23DC]

I think you lot should wait until after you've seen the movie before judging his performance. The sample size we have as of now is waaay too small to make these statements

Yeah that would be all well and good ...

If it wasn’t for the fact that by the same point in the marketing for Batman versus Superman, we had seen enough snippets and clips of Affleck in the role to know that it would at least be decent.

This performance looks un-inspired, and bland.

There is no edge, darkness or anger to JL Batman in any of the clips, which is integral and inherent to the character.

 

[idiot09]

Ben Affleck :

Bruce Wayne :

 

[Jekecy]

Hm, used a BvS Bruce shoot for a JL promo? No good ones from the JL-attempted ones? Sad!

 

[Micromind]

Does anyone here remember this pic ? It's from the video in support of environment against North Dakota pipeline. This was around 7 th Sept 2016.

http://ew.com/article/2016/09/07/justice-league-cast-unites-against-dakota-access-pipeline/

Here, Ben Affleck looks same as he did in 'Exploding wind-up penguins" line, which was assumed to be filmed by Joss Whedon during reshoots, guess not.. as this pic shows, Affleck looks same here as he does in that scene, also we know that Whedon was attached to this movie (as a writer first, then after March as a director) after Jan 2017.

My point is, the 'exploding penguin' scenes could by shot by Snyder in August 2016 (or earlier), way before Whedon 's involvement.Now, time to disappear again..

 

[markjoedelonge]

Does anyone here remember this pic ? It's from the video in support of environment against North Dakota pipeline. This was around 7 th Sept 2016.

http://ew.com/article/2016/09/07/justice-league-cast-unites-against-dakota-access-pipeline/

Here, Ben Affleck looks same as he did in 'Exploding wind-up penguins" line, which was assumed to be filmed by Joss Whedon during reshoots, guess not.. as this pic shows, Affleck looks same here as he does in that scene, also we know that Whedon was attached to this movie (as a writer first, then after March as a director) after Jan 2017.

My point is, the 'exploding penguin' scenes could by shot by Snyder in August 2016 (or earlier), way before Whedon 's involvement.Now, time to disappear again..

I saw your post and was excited to welcome you back! t:

 

[Greens]

He looks ten times worse in the exploding penguins scene. To be fair, though, it's just that one shot. There's a shot from a different angle in the AT&T Batman trailer and he looks fine.

 

[Trevor]

You won't have these issues with BA after JL anymore. Trust me.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

^ Honestly..recasting for The Batman could allow for some character "softening" without altering the "identity" of this Batman. I personally feel Affleck seems burnt out of the role with JL. I felt similar vibes when watching Craig in Spectre.

I don't want to go see a "good film featuring Batman" with Reeves. I want to see a good BATMAN film.

 

[Da-Scribe]

^ Honestly..recasting for The Batman could allow for some character "softening" without altering the "identity" of this Batman. I personally feel Affleck seems burnt out of the role with JL. I felt similar vibes when watching Craig in Spectre.

I don't want to go see a "good film featuring Batman" with Reeves. I want to see a good BATMAN film.

I don't get why people think this. The question, to me, isn't whether or not Affleck wants the role. I'm sure he does. The question is whether or not Reeves wants to work with him.

 

[Jekecy]

I don't get why people think this. The question, to me, isn't whether or not Affleck wants the role. I'm sure he does. The question is whether or not Reeves wants to work with him.

It's not a question for me, but I believe it to be the case. His career and public image have been on the decline ever since he stepped "out into the spotlight" in accepting this humongous role. Whether or not he believes it's the result of this attention and/or reception to the films is of another topic, but either way I think that initial excitement in jumping into the genre again is no longer there. That canned PR statement this past Comic-Con didn't convince me.

I don't believe it's a 100% certainty just yet, but I've a feeling there's a rough draft of both WB and Ben's statements in regards to his near-future departure.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I think Ben merely adjusted his performance to suit the tone of the film, which is clearly very jocular (perhaps to a fault).

 

[DeadPresident]

I think Ben merely adjusted his performance to suit the tone of the film, which is clearly very jocular (perhaps to a fault).

I foresee this being a major stick with which to beat JL when it's convenient for critics or fans.

 

[Da-Scribe]

It's not a question for me, but I believe it to be the case. His career and public image have been on the decline ever since he stepped "out into the spotlight" in accepting this humongous role. Whether or not he believes it's the result of this attention and/or reception to the films is of another topic, but either way I think that initial excitement in jumping into the genre again is no longer there. That canned PR statement this past Comic-Con didn't convince me.

I don't believe it's a 100% certainty just yet, but I've a feeling there's a rough draft of both WB and Ben's statements in regards to his near-future departure.

Just seems odd to me to make such bold assumptions about someone that none of us knows and that directly contradict what he has said publicly.

 

[TheFlamingCoco]

I think Ben merely adjusted his performance to suit the tone of the film, which is clearly very jocular (perhaps to a fault).

Maybe. But whatever felt 'distinct' in BVS seems generic in JL.

If the movie's good, I don't think his performance will take me out of the movie. But it doesn't really seem to be anything noteworthy so far.

 

[King23DC]

Maybe. But whatever felt 'distinct' in BVS seems generic in JL.

If the movie's good, I don't think his performance will take me out of the movie. But it doesn't really seem to be anything noteworthy so far.

Agreed. Even though the BvS wasn’t even a really note worthy performance either. It was more so like, damn, he was decent, when everyone hated the casting and expected him to suck. So far with this one, it just feels like Ben Affleck and not Bruce Wayne.