: BEST MOVIE OF THE 21st CENTURY: DECADE ONE/YEAR TWO - 2001

[kedrell]

LOTR will win the next 3 polls

Rightly so, IMO.

 

[Episode29]

Rightly so, IMO.

Sir, are you implying that Chicago won't be sweeping the next round?

 

[Laderlappen]

Sir, are you implying that Chicago won't be sweeping the next round?

It will probably not be an option

 

[Episode29]

It will probably not be an option

Yeah, he'll have to make room for The Banger Sisters and Swimfan.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

Yeah, he'll have to make room for The Banger Sisters and Swimfan.

Oh god, two movies that completely left my memory bank until you brought them up. They're the kind of movies that you watch, some stuff happens on screen, and you leave without remembering ANY of it.

 

[Episode29]

Oh god, two movies that completely left my memory bank until you brought them up. They're the kind of movies that you watch, some stuff happens on screen, and you leave without remembering ANY of it.

But they do shine brightly, bigger and better.

 

[JRPJCDJC]

The average Joe have seen very little so called 'art-films'. The only movies that has a huge audience are blockbuster movies. And very little blovkbuster films can be called some of the best films ever. The movies Sarge used as examples are some of the bigger more famous actually. Its a catch 22. These movies arent exposed enough to be called some of the best ever, and the movies that are are not good enough.

Have no idea how we came into this discussion.

If a movie is truely great, word of mouth will do what box offices cannot. In the case of movies not on the list, they simply don't have a big enough following via the word of mouth.

Take 25th Hour which will be in the poll for 2002. No box office draw, no awards or critical praise, no real anything. The word of mouth on it is nothing but good though. The reason it's included and not something like Ghost World is simply because more people know about it.

If a movie is hidden 'under a rock' and unknown after almost 10 years
how great can it be.

The test of time is another criteria that weighs in heavily. I hate to say it, but that's why Star Wars is still one of the best films ever made. EVERYONE on the planet has a little piece of Star Wars in them. It imbedded itself on the mind of humanity. If that's not power and strength and greatness, I don't know what it.

 

[kedrell]

Oh god, two movies that completely left my memory bank until you brought them up. They're the kind of movies that you watch, some stuff happens on screen, and you leave without remembering ANY of it.

Umm, why did you even watch them then. Couldn't you tell that's what they'd be from the trailers?

 

[kedrell]

Sir, are you implying that Chicago won't be sweeping the next round?

Hehe, it better not be.

 

[JRPJCDJC]

Yeah, he'll have to make room for The Banger Sisters and Swimfan.

Ok - here's what 2002 is looking like so far.

:Please don't say your vote now:

I had more but took some of for personal amusement, they will be added again as will about 25 more.

25th Hour
The Bourne Identity
Catch Me If You Can
Gangs of New York
Chicago
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
Spider-Man
Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones
Minority Report
Signs
The Time Machine
Blade II
Die Another Day
Road to Perdition
We Were Soldiers
The Scorpion King

But seriously, what do I need to say beyond these? I think your being distracted by the 'bad movies' on the list and not noticing I included all the possible winners.

I had hoped the OTHER option would have eliminated any whining. I was wrong about that.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

Umm, why did you even watch them then. Couldn't you tell that's what they'd be from the trailers?

Not really. Trailers almost never influence whether or not I'll see a movie since trailers are rarely - if ever - indicative of the films quality. There's a reason why Gene Siskel would leave the theater until they were over.

One I believe I watched with a group of people who wanted to see it(Swimfan probably), and the other I caught on HBO late at night. Couldn't tell you a single memorable thing about either of them.

 

[Episode29]

Ok - here's what 2002 is looking like so far.

:Please don't say your vote now:

I had more but took some of for personal amusement, they will be added again as will about 25 more.

25th Hour
The Bourne Identity
Catch Me If You Can
Gangs of New York
Chicago
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
Spider-Man
Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones
Minority Report
Signs
The Time Machine
Blade II
Die Another Day
Road to Perdition
We Were Soldiers
The Scorpion King

But seriously, what do I need to say beyond these?

Don't forget The Pianist, Adaptation, About Schmidt, Y Tu Mama Tambien and The Hours.

 

[JRPJCDJC]

Don't forget The Pianist, Adaptation, About Schmidt, Y Tu Mama Tambien and The Hours.

Yeah , theyll all be on there except Y Tu Mama Tambien. I don't even know what that says and I don't want to.

SUBTITLES = NOT BEST

If I wanted to read I'd buy a book.

 

[kedrell]

Don't forget The Pianist, Adaptation, About Schmidt, Y Tu Mama Tambien and The Hours.

And Punch Drunk Love.

 

[Episode29]

Yeah , theyll all be on there except Y Tu Mama Tambien. I don't even know what that says and I don't want to.

It's a great film by geek-favourite director Alfonso Cuaron (Prisoner of Azkaban, Children of Men). Just because it isn't in english doesn't make it bad.

 

[Episode29]

SUBTITLES = NOT BEST

Credibility, meet window.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

Yeah , theyll all be on there except Y Tu Mama Tambien. I don't even know what that says and I don't want to.

SUBTITLES = NOT BEST

If I wanted to read I'd buy a book.

:facepalm

There is not a face palm big enough for this.

 

[kedrell]

Not really. Trailers almost never influence whether or not I'll see a movie since trailers are rarely - if ever - indicative of the films quality. There's a reason why Gene Siskel would leave the theater until they were over.

Hmm, ah well. If a movie doesn't sell me with it's trailer then it's extremely unlikely I'll ever wasye any time or money seeing it. Unless it has stellar WOM from many sectors of the public, which is the only other thing that could influence me to see it. And this is all predicated on the notion that it's a film concept that would interest me anyway. At least 80-90% of concepts I hear about just go in one ear and out the other. They simply don't have any pull for me. No Country For Old Men is probably the last film that go me to see it solely on WOM.

 

[JRPJCDJC]

And Punch Drunk Love.

Yeah, that'll be on there - if it is indeed 2002.

 

[kedrell]

Yeah, that'll be on there - if it is indeed 2002.

It is.

 

[Sentinel X]

Yeah , theyll all be on there except Y Tu Mama Tambien. I don't even know what that says and I don't want to.

SUBTITLES = NOT BEST

If I wanted to read I'd buy a book.

How can you diminish the quality of a film because it uses subtitles? Some of the worlds best film happen to not be in english and in some instances having them in another language improved my film experience.

 

[JRPJCDJC]

It's a great film by geek-favourite director Alfonso Cuaron (Prisoner of Azkaban, Children of Men). Just because it isn't in english doesn't make it bad.

Well, both those movies will be on lists for their respective years the foreign is not going to be.

 

[Episode29]

Wait a sec, Crounching Tiger, Hidden Dragon made the last poll. It had subtitles. It also, like Y tu Mama Tambien was up for best foreign film at the Oscars.

Does this mean Pan's Labyrinth will be excluded in the future?

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

How can you diminish the quality of a film because it uses subtitles? Some of the worlds best film happen to not be in english and in some instances having them in another language improved my film experience.

I would rather read subtitles than have dubs for instance because you lose a good deal of the actor's performance.

 

[JRPJCDJC]

How can you diminish the quality of a film because it uses subtitles? Some of the worlds best film happen to not be in english and in some instances having them in another language improved my film experience.

Err... because I didn't like living in a country where I didn't speak the language and thought the places there that spoke my language are what I liked better.

Translation: This is English speaking America and the poll is written in English.

If a foreign film is good enough, someone will eventually remake it into the English language. Test of time friend, test of time.

Also, I'm not 100% against subtitles I included Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon because IT'S AN OUTSTANDING FILM that's many people know. Y Tu Mama Tambien is not.