Bone claws!?

[Savage]

Yeah, someone installs an arm in my chest, doesn't mean I'll know how to use it...In fact it'll probably just be this disgusting dead thing.

 

[iceman7]

Bone claws would not be bad and would be essential.

Argue all you want, but every artists depicts the claws differently in the comics and often depicted in a way that it seems unlikely that there's bone underneath but we all know there is. So adamantium claw shape doesnt matter.

It would not be a weird mutation. I mean look at beast angel nightcrawler and
others. Those are by far weirder mutations than claws

Weather you like them or not, the bone claws are part of him.

It would be alot easier to explain that he had them but didnt know how to use them, then stryker saw them, laced them, and ever since he freaked out at weapon X and they popped he learned how to use them.

This would satisfy the bone lovers and the ppl so intent on the stryker quote of him giving him claws.

Btw if you guys dont like wolverine with bone claws, dont read earth x

 

[ReallyCoolGuy]

Bone claws ... would be essential.

They weren't essential for 30 years... why now?

 

[Savage]

Because they've been essential for the past 15.

 

[YJ1]

Because they've been essential for the past 15.

They've been meaningless since the adamantium was put back. Personally, I hate any thought of bone claws and choose to completely ignore the whole concept. It works for me, making the bone claws quite irrelevant. Keep them that way.

(PS- Origin SUCKED and I've never read Earth X)

 

[Savage]

I wish I could just pretend parts I don't like about comic book characters didn't exist too. Spider-man wouldn't have 10 extra powers all of a sudden.

 

[Legion]

This is an origin movie and in X2 it was explained that Logan became Wolverine due to the the adamantium processing procedure at Stryker's alkali lake facility. Stryker also suggested that Logan at one time may have done some terrible things during their work together and that he was actually a willing participant of the procedure and not a victim like he had believed. The movie should elaborate on this and explore his relationships with victor creed and silver fox his tragic loss. Perhaps the Hudsons nurse him back to health and he becomes attracted to Heather who happens to resemble Jean Grey and jealousy towards Jim and (cyclops).

When Wolverine lost his adamantium in the comics and found out he had bone claws, he was still wolverine, he was still a superhero and he was still able to defeat sabretooth and the rest of his villain gallery.

So if Wolverine has bone claws at the start of this movie why can't he beat sabretooth, why does he need adamantium, why does he need bone claws in this movie?

If it is to just simply things they could have just said wolverine was born with an unbreakable skeleteton and claws instead of mentioning the fictional metal or he could have had bone claws from the start.

 

[Savage]

They've been calling it adamantium through all 3 movies and they even showed the process so...I don't think that they would be able to get away with that...Bones are breakable. Adamantium is not. Sabretooth can crush bone like crackers. There's a good a reason for coating your bones in adamantium.

 

[Eelectro 2]

i think that people might not accept him having bones that 'shoot' out of his skin having been used to the knowledge that he was tampered with and that's why he has metal knives coming out. i doubt deathstrike had bones coming out of her fingers so it would only make sense that it's all part of the project.

personally i would prefer them to just leave it at them inserting metal into his body and the metal blades being a whole new thing to him. from flashbacks we've seen him screaming when he first saw the claws sticking out of his hand and in the first movie he says it hurts everytime, like he's still getting used to it (even though he doesnt' remember). have his mutant ability to just stay at the healing factor, nothing more for the movies

 

[Legion]

They've been calling it adamantium through all 3 movies and they even showed the process so...I don't think that they would be able to get away with that...Bones are breakable. Adamantium is not. Sabretooth can crush bone like crackers. There's a good a reason for coating your bones in adamantium.

I meant that many people defend the bone claws scenario as being more logical and easier for the general public to understand opposed to the implanted claws scenario.

In X-Men 1 when they introduced an entire population of characters born with superhuman abilities it would have been very simple to say Wolverine was born that way just like everyone else instead of explaining that his skeleton was surgically grafted with an unbreakable metal alloy called "adamantium" (which does not really exist). If they had chose to go this route there would be no need to spend time in the first two films exploring his origins. There would be alot more time to expand on other characters but they chose to focus on Wolverine being the most popular and the background that has appealed to many and was relevant for the majority of the character's history.

I still say this is an origin movie and the character is expected to "become" something. Giving a Wolverine adamantium who already has bone claws that can cut through steel and flesh and has a healing factor that can heal any wound in seconds is not an origin...its just an enhancement.

This is like if in Spiderman 1, Peter Parker already could walk on walls, had heightened agility and senses but used a mechanical web shooter..and then got bit by a radioactive spider and could shoot webs out of his hands."Now that I've finally rid myself of this inconvenience I could finally pursue the superheroic endeavors I've always dreamed of."

 

[ReallyCoolGuy]

Because they've been essential for the past 15.

How so?

 

[ReallyCoolGuy]

i think that people might not accept him having bones that 'shoot' out of his skin...

Agreed.

 

[Savage]

I meant that many people defend the bone claws scenario as being more logical and easier for the general public to understand opposed to the implanted claws scenario.

In X-Men 1 when they introduced an entire population of characters born with superhuman abilities it would have been very simple to say Wolverine was born that way just like everyone else instead of explaining that his skeleton was surgically grafted with an unbreakable metal alloy called "adamantium" (which does not really exist). If they had chose to go this route there would be no need to spend time in the first two films exploring his origins. There would be alot more time to expand on other characters but they chose to focus on Wolverine being the most popular and the background that has appealed to many and was relevant for the majority of the character's history.

I still say this is an origin movie and the character is expected to "become" something. Giving a Wolverine adamantium who already has bone claws that can cut through steel and flesh and has a healing factor that can heal any wound in seconds is not an origin...its just an enhancement.

This is like if in Spiderman 1, Peter Parker already could walk on walls, had heightened agility and senses but used a mechanical web shooter..and then got bit by a radioactive spider and could shoot webs out of his hands."Now that I've finally rid myself of this inconvenience I could finally pursue the superheroic endeavors I've always dreamed of."

Here's the thing though; Weapon X is no longer the origin of Wolverine. Origin is the origin for Wolverine. As much as people hate it, the manifestation of his claws at a young age and using those claws to kill his own father and scar his brother, causing his mother to call him a monster and go insane, the death of his surrogate father, these are all part of his true origin. Not to mention killing the woman he loved with it (which would be GREAT for comparison in the Wolverine movie, what with him having killed Jean Grey with them as well).

This was all the beginning of his own memory loss. Weapon X was just a pick-up point. The RE-BIRTH if you will. James Howlett died the night of his parents' deaths. THIS is why the bone claws have become important to the Wolverine character. You lose the bone claws and his entire origin is just...gone (and replaced with that BS bullied as a kid crap). You need that tragedy.

 

[Savage]

How so?

See above. ^^

 

[CaptainClown]

just giving my two cents, I really don't like the idea of bone claws. I know you guys don't care but oh well

 

[xXx]

Bone claws should definitely be in!

 

[Sturmwolf]

The writer changed his history once -giving him boneclaws-
they could change it again -just removing all the bonegarbage.
Realityadjustments have been made a lot of times in comichistory.
Comicwriters do it if a history needs some clean up, when previous writer made some bull***t (like boneclaws).

Only some "newbies" like the boneclaws.
Most mature fans still prefer the original story (cybernetic claws).
Wolverine is about a man trying to control his berserkerrage(and his animal insticts).
Not about claws.

So I hope they change back to the original Wolverine background some day.
And we can make jokes about the time when people liked that.
Like seeing old pictures of oneself, with a bad haircut and a bad fashiontaste, but you remember being totally "in" as the picture was made.

 

[Savage]

III don't think that's happening. The bone claws are likely here to stay. No way to retcon that. The whole point of Origin is that Wolverine existed before Weapon X even got to him. They just succeeded in stripping away his last bit of humanity and it took all he had to get it back. Adamantium claws are great and all but his other "rebirths" have been relatively peaceful as opposed to waking up in a tub with tubes sticking out of you and people drilling into you. Then waking up with claws (which according to your memory) you have no recollection of. There many times when he woke up and saw the claws and they were brand new to him.

I like how fans just choose to ignore certain aspects of a character like it's not there JUST because they don't like it.

 

[YJ1]

I wish I could just pretend parts I don't like about comic book characters didn't exist too. Spider-man wouldn't have 10 extra powers all of a sudden.

I like how fans just choose to ignore certain aspects of a character like it's not there JUST because they don't like it.

If I can successfully ignore a Spider-Clone and a teenage Tony Stark, I can ignore bone claws!

 

[Sturmwolf]

III don't think that's happening. The bone claws like they're here to stay. No way to retcon that.

That's what people always say...until the retcon really happens.t:

 

[ReallyCoolGuy]

How so?

See above. ^^

Nothing in that post stated how bone claws are "essential". Most people who have been following this thread should know that I am not a fan of the bone claws... but I am not arguing for or against them... only the use of the word "essential" to describe their incorporation into the film series. In the comic book, Rogue had a strong Southern accent, Storm was African, etc... those are strong characteristics of the characters... but those didn't seem to be "essential" when they were making the movie...

 

[CaptainClown]

I like the idea that Wolverine was brutish but didn't have claws until Weapon X

 

[Savage]

Nothing in that post stated how bone claws are "essential". Most people who have been following this thread should know that I am not a fan of the bone claws... but I am not arguing for or against them... only the use of the word "essential" to describe their incorporation into the film series. In the comic book, Rogue had a strong Southern accent, Storm was African, etc... those are strong characteristics of the characters... but those didn't seem to be "essential" when they were making the movie...

You can't really compare someone's power to an accent. Yes I did explain why it was essential to the character. Did you read Origin at all?

 

[ReallyCoolGuy]

You can't really compare someone's power to an accent.

Exactly... an accent is a lot more "essential" to the depiction of a character.

Did you read Origin at all?

No. I stopped reading comic books in 1995. Wolverine was one of my favorite characters and the (later revealed) fact that his claws were made out of bone was apparently not "essential" to his character.

 

[Savage]

Ah. Well it has become essential to his character and his origin. The fact that Weapon X was not responsible for him being a monster. He's been a monster long before that and his own mother was even the first one to call him that. Weapon X did not make him a freak. For years he always blamed them but the tragedy of it all is it's really nobody's fault but nature's. It's even sadder for him since he recently regained his memories (Scarlet Witch) and was forced to face this fact. He had enough issues with his inner beast without finding out that although Weapon X may have been a workshop of monsters, he was already one before he even got there...It's almost like a hero finding out he used to be a villain. I think that's what Stryker was hinting at in X2 actually.