Boston Marathon Terror Attack - Part 3

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

On the flip side it is damn expensive to house someone until they die. Granted, the appeal process and how long it takes to actually execute someone usually takes awhile as it should but for that waste of oxygen and space he should just be taken out back and have a few rounds put into his skull

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

On the flip side it is damn expensive to house someone until they die. Granted, the appeal process and how long it takes to actually execute someone usually takes awhile as it should but for that waste of oxygen and space he should just be taken out back and have a few rounds put into his skull

It's ridiculous how costly it is to house him and execute him. We're so concerned about the death penalty being carried out humanely, but there's no proof that lethal injection is any less painful than a bullet to the head; in fact, it's probably worse due to the drug cocktail's dragged out internal process of the organs being paralyzed, suffocated and liquified. And the end result is the same. So it's just illogical.

 

[regwec]

Added to that is the deeply sinister undertone of refining inflicted death so that it appears to exclude pain or misery. If we are to exact judicial killing, we should at least witness the human ruin that is its consequence.

 

[AnneFan]

I am pleased by the decision. The punishment will fit the crime.

 

[hippie_hunter]

On the flip side it is damn expensive to house someone until they die. Granted, the appeal process and how long it takes to actually execute someone usually takes awhile as it should but for that waste of oxygen and space he should just be taken out back and have a few rounds put into his skull

That is a big reason why I am opposed to the death penalty for the most part. But add in the disproportionate amount of minorities that get executed in comparison to whites, the amount of innocent people that get executed, how I view what the prison system should be (rehabilitation), and the morality of the issue to where I don't see the justification of two wrongs making a right.

 

[KevanG]

Well the entire US prison system needs an overhaul but that's another topic.

 

[Mad Ones]

Any process that makes a human killable should be questioned.

 

[Marvolo]

On the flip side it is damn expensive to house someone until they die. Granted, the appeal process and how long it takes to actually execute someone usually takes awhile as it should but for that waste of oxygen and space he should just be taken out back and have a few rounds put into his skull

Back when all the botched execution fiasco hit the media John Olliver discussed it and showed the costs of giving someone life in prison versus giving them the death penalty and execution is actually more expensive than holding someone for life. What makes the death penalty so expensive is that the government is required to pay for any appeals that a criminal that is given the death sentace makes. And a death row criminal gets more than one appeal. The government has to pay their court costs, their lawyer fees, transportation fees back and forth to court, and anything that goes along with that and those fees far outstrip the cost of just holding the person for life, because someone given a life sentence is required to pay for their own appeals, lawyers, court costs, and expenses etc.

 

[craigdbfan]

Lethal injection is too nice. Being tortured everyday of his life in that supermax would have been far more suiting. It would have literally been a living hell.

I know it sounds harsh but that's what he deserved. Death is too good for him.

 

[Thundercrack85]

If you have moral qualms about the death penalty, I have to say the alternative isn't exactly any more humane. I would much rather die than be in isolation for 50 years.

 

[RetrogradeOrbit]

I am pleased by the decision. The punishment will fit the crime.

Couldn't have said it better myself...

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I don't believe that the government should be in the business of murder or torture. Yes the guy is scum and should spend the rest of his life in prison but I do not like government implemented revenge killings.

And yes that's what I see them as, if that offends so be it. I'm offended that the United States still has the death plenty, I'm offended that rich murderers are almost never executed, that it is disproportionately used against minorities.

 

[chamber-music]

The two Terrorists who killed Soldier Lee Rigby probably wish we still had the Death Penalty in the UK.

Some inmates got their hands on one of them and beat the hell out of them. Terrorist are only one up the unpopularity scale to pedos in prison. Life in jail would result in having to look over your shoulder the rest of your like or being in isolation because the other prisoners will do horrible stuff if they get their hands on you.

Back when all the botched execution fiasco hit the media John Olliver discussed it and showed the costs of giving someone life in prison versus giving them the death penalty and execution is actually more expensive than holding someone for life. What makes the death penalty so expensive is that the government is required to pay for any appeals that a criminal that is given the death sentace makes. And a death row criminal gets more than one appeal. The government has to pay their court costs, their lawyer fees, transportation fees back and forth to court, and anything that goes along with that and those fees far outstrip the cost of just holding the person for life, because someone given a life sentence is required to pay for their own appeals, lawyers, court costs, and expenses etc.

They put some prisoners to work in prison as well so that off sets the cost of housing and feeding them.

 

[terry78]

Basically you're at risk of getting killed in jail anyway, depending on what you did. Some of these guys go in as heroes if they killed people that were quote unquote "deserving", but stuff like mass murdering a marathon....nah. Some people do deserve to die for their crimes, though.

 

[AnneFan]

Couldn't have said it better myself...

Thanks. I am pro-life in the sense I value the right for innocent people to live their lives freely without having to worry about being targeted by garbage such as this, and killed for no reason. I think there has to be zero tolerance for crimes such as this. Just get rid of him.

 

[Greens]

Thanks. I am pro-life in the sense I value the right for innocent people to live their lives freely without having to worry about being targeted by garbage such as this, and killed for no reason.

So... you're a normal person?

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Basically you're at risk of getting killed in jail anyway, depending on what you did. Some of these guys go in as heroes if they killed people that were quote unquote "deserving", but stuff like mass murdering a marathon....nah. Some people do deserve to die for their crimes, though.

No way Tsarnaev will be allowed in gen pop. The guards know he'll be shanked in about an hour. In the SuperMax he'd be in solitary confinement the rest of his life.

 

[Immortalfire]

Any process that makes a human killable should be questioned.

Calling him human at this juncture, is a stretch.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I'm conflicted. On the one hand, I think the death penalty is too lax. It's quick and it's – barring a SNAF with the drugs – fairly painless.

It's also what he wants.

On the other hand, he'll be dead, and everyone will forget about him. Does anyone even remember the name of that ******* Sniper in DC?

If he's locked up for 50 years, he'll still be around.

Too bad we can't do a compromise, lock him up for 20 years, then kill him.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Er... actually, with the appeal process in the US, he probably will be locked up 20 years before he's finally executed.

 

[Thundercrack85]

They killed the DC Sniper after 4 months.

I think this will be a pretty speedy process too.

 

[warhorse78]

Lethal injection is too nice. Being tortured everyday of his life in that supermax would have been far more suiting. It would have literally been a living hell.

I know it sounds harsh but that's what he deserved. Death is too good for him.

Yeah, I would have given him life in prison, then stick him in the prison that happens to house the deadliest, darkest criminals in the area, and let them finish him off for us.

 

[Marvolo]

Basically you're at risk of getting killed in jail anyway, depending on what you did. Some of these guys go in as heroes if they killed people that were quote unquote "deserving", but stuff like mass murdering a marathon....nah. Some people do deserve to die for their crimes, though.

Prisoners such as this scrum would be in isolation in supermax prison. Idk whether you know how that works but I'll post it for the benefit of the thread.

23 hours a day he would stay in an small cell. The cell has a single very narrow 4" wide window . It's designed this way so he can't make out landmarks and orient himself and figure out his own location in the prison complex. If he behaves himself he would e allowed a small tv that plays only black and white educational programming. No mirror is in the cell. The bed frame is solid concrete. The toilet and sink are combined into a single unit made of stainless steel. The bed is a single mat that's a few inches thick. The prisoner isnt allowed to have pillows or sheets. There is a single entrance which is solid steel. Behind that is a standard bar door. And he would only have one hour of wreck time that takes place in the bottom of an area similar to an empty in ground swimming pool.

Here are some pics from a cell in ADX Florence Supermax in Colorado:

ADX is one of the most secure prisons in the U.S. and its where we hold terrorists and the criminals that do the **** that would make Satan blush. This is likely where this trash would have been held. He wouldn't have had a chance to be killed by another inmate, because the only people he would ever see or be near would be the guards.

Frankly, execution is a mercy sentence compared to isolation in a supermax cell for life. People literally go insane in isolation.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

Still looks too nice for him. He should have a dark pit like the hole in Shawshank Redemption.

 

[Marvolo]

I wonder if virtual reality ever gets good enough or if we ever find a way to upload and store memories if we could make murderers experience the last moments of their victim's life. The pain, the fear, the agony. I'm sure that would be to close to torture for some people to even consider, but it would be a fitting punishment in some cases. Make this guy feel what some of those people felt when burning hot shrapnel tore their limbs off. Make him feel how they felt when they were lying there bleeding to death. The confusion. The bargaining. The pleading. Really put the murderer in the shoes of the victim and see if that doesn't make them understand the gravity of their actions.