Bought/Thought 20/02/08

[LemonSunday]

I believe it was, "Oh. The. HUMANITY."

 

[Darthphere]

Hulk is awesome, better than iron Fist!!!1[/Dusty]

 

[iloveclones]

I believe it was, "Oh. The. HUMANITY."

For all the picking-on of the dialogue, I at least got a chuckle out of that one, considering the situation.

 

[LemonSunday]

Hulk is awesome, better than iron Fist!!!1[/Dusty]

Whoever Dusty is, he's wrong.

For all the picking-on of the dialogue, I at least got a chuckle out of that one, considering the situation.

Me too.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Another thing is that I'm of the opinion that some books just aren't meant for some people. If you don't like the story or characterization of Iron Man in this book, there are plenty of other books that write him differently. That doesn't make this book bad, per se. It just might not be your cup of tea. Exiles is like that for me. I know a lot people love it, but it's just not for me.

Haha, nobody likes Exiles anymore. Let's be real here

 

[Blader5489]

Yeah, I think people went into this book with the wrong expectations. I think Loeb and Marvel made it perfectly clear this was going to be the equivalent of a Michael Bay movie. Stupid, but fun.

Actually, Loeb advertised it as just the opposite. He has repeatedly been selling this book as featuring an "intelligent, cunning Hulk" for the first time (which, in of itself, is wrong). He has always try to play up that this was an intelligent Hulk, and that the story was a murder mystery (i.e. it's intended to be somewhat cerebral). When did Loeb or Marvel ever explicitly say that this was going to be a "stupid, but fun" book?

 

[LemonSunday]

Haha, nobody likes Exiles anymore. Let's be real here

Be that as it may, people did like it at one point. However, I've heard that Claremont's new book is the bee's knees, crazy as that sounds.

 

[LemonSunday]

Actually, Loeb advertised it as just the opposite. He has repeatedly been selling this book as featuring an "intelligent, cunning Hulk" for the first time (which, in of itself, is wrong). He has always try to play up that this was an intelligent Hulk, and that the story was a murder mystery (i.e. it's intended to be somewhat cerebral). When did Loeb or Marvel ever explicitly say that this was going to be a "stupid, but fun" book?

Wow, you misinterpreted everything Loeb said. Having a cunning Hulk and writing a "cerebral" book are vastly different. Loeb's intentions with the book have been stated numerous times. He's looking to do a ridiculous Hulk book with big fights and big art. He's mentioned it's basically an excuse for McGuinness to draw the Hulk beating the snot out of everyone.

I mean, seriously, dude. How cerebral can the Hulk punching out the Watcher because he doesn't like being watched be?

 

[BrianWilly]

Checkmate #23
Why must the cosmos hate me so? Enough that Rucka's pretty much running screaming in the opposite direction from DC, enough that he's leaving Checkmate which is consistently the best book in the universe ever, enough that Trautmann isn't staying on to continue his work. And I don't even really care that much about Bruce Jones; I never read any of his work and don't really have an opinion about him either way, even though comments from others have gotten me a bit worried.

What truly bothers me is that this series is at its peak right now. This series is on a fcking roll, especially as this latest issue shows, and only seemed to be getting better. But now we're just...done. It's over. I mean, sure, it's not technically over, but everyone knows that Rucka is this series. Without him it's either nothing, or something else entirely. It just brings back very irritating, very unwelcome memories of everything else that Rucka has..."left"...prematurely. Wonder Woman, Gotham Central, etc etc.

But if he's going out, apparently he's going to go out with a bang. This final story, "Castling," promises to deliver one of the most badass and memorable payoffs of a series ever. Already this first issue showcases all of Checkmate's strengths and rivetting writing, with epic espionage, intense action, incredible world-building, and great character moments. How bloody awesome was the use of Superman here? In-character, effective, to-the-point, and only served to up the stakes of the story instead of providing an easy, cheap way out. Which is frankly par for the course of this series...and it's all going to be over far too soon.



Witness my wangst.

(9.7 out of 10)


Justice League of America #18
Mm. Not bad, I suppose. I'm pretty freaking tired and annoyed at "fill-in arcs" at DC right now. But things do happen here and we see the League actually being proactive and flexing their muscles for once. If you're at all interested in Salvation Run, this is a reasonably decent tie-in. I'm not quite sure how I feel about Vixen hogging the spotlight of this series so much -- I don't mind Vixen, it's just that no one should be hogging the spotlight in a JLA series -- but it's a logical extention of the character to play up some of her connections to the Squad, so...*shrug*

Still, when did Red Tornado turn into an AI? Did I just completely sleep through that portion of this series?

(7 out of 10)


Superman/Batman #46
To get it out of the way: yes, Batman not only disliking but aggressively disbelieving in magic is stupid, out of character, and pretty definitely cements the notion that Green either hasn't read a DC comic before in his life, or hasn't read any released after 1990.

But other than that, I actually really liked this issue. BECAUSE OF THIS.

I'm so sorry. I have a very low cuteness threshold. I just cannot look at it without laughing my ass off.

Superman high off of his mind? Gold pure gold. There is no universe where this isn't hilarious. RED TORNADO AS A TINY LEGO ROBOT.

And then there's some plot-related plot about taking a day off to escape or something, but I wasn't really paying attention.

(8 out of 10)


More thoughts later, after sleep. Yes, sleep. Don't ask.

 

[Blader5489]

Wow, you misinterpreted everything Loeb said. Having a cunning Hulk and writing a "cerebral" book are vastly different. Loeb's intentions with the book have been stated numerous times. He's looking to do a ridiculous Hulk book with big fights and big art. He's mentioned it's basically an excuse for McGuinness to draw the Hulk beating the snot out of everyone.

I mean, seriously, dude. How cerebral can the Hulk punching out the Watcher because he doesn't like being watched be?

Can you actually give me a link to where he said that?

And assuming that's all true and you're not just talking out of your ass, I don't see why we need to have a Hulk story that's just an excuse for big action scenes. We just had that with World War Hulk.

 

[LemonSunday]

Can you actually give me a link to where he said that?

One of the many places he stated this:

Without spoiling things, I promise the Hulk will punch the Watcher in the face -- he needs it! McGuinness and I were talking about it and he said to me, 'We have to do a scene where the Watcher appears, the Hulk says, 'what do you want' and the Watcher says, 'I'm just here to watch.' Then the Hulk punches him in the face, knocks him out and says, 'I don't want you to watch.

http://www.comicon.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=36;t=006964

And assuming that's all true and you're not just talking out of your ass, I don't see why we need to have a Hulk story that's just an excuse for big action scenes. We just had that with World War Hulk.

So?

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I've been looking forward to that Watcher scene for months

 

[LemonSunday]

Yeah, knowing it's coming though, it may lessen the impact.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Be that as it may, people did like it at one point. However, I've heard that Claremont's new book is the bee's knees, crazy as that sounds.

I used to love the book. I should have dropped it when Mimic died but my cursed optimism and hope kept me around for further disappointment.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, knowing it's coming though, it may lessen the impact.

Yeah, but I guarantee that when it happens, I'm gonna drop the book and scream "Damn, you got knocked the F out!"

...and not just because I'm black

 

[LemonSunday]

I used to love the book. I should have dropped it when Mimic died but my cursed optimism and hope kept me around for further disappointment.

That book had Mimic and Morph?

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Oh, they F'd Morph up good. All this "Proteus trapped in Morph's body and tricked into thinking he's Morph" business. What crap :

 

[LemonSunday]

That sounds incredibly ******ed.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Yeah, it was. That's why I want no part of this New Exiles crap Claremont is trying to feed me :

 

[LemonSunday]

The art looks good, though.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, they F'd Morph up good. All this "Proteus trapped in Morph's body and tricked into thinking he's Morph" business. What crap :

That's what got me to leave. I stuck with it up to that point, sad for a while but expecting Morph to somehow retake his body and for Proteus to be defeated. But no. The next arc, everyone just treats Proteus as Morph like nothing happened. No one grieves or gives a ****. So I stopped giving a **** about the series.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I need to go back and read all of Winnick's run and Bedard's earlier stuff. I got into the book kinda late.

 

[iloveclones]

Be that as it may, people did like it at one point. However, I've heard that Claremont's new book is the bee's knees, crazy as that sounds.

Where are you getting your info?

 

[LemonSunday]

Where are you getting your info?

From people who didn't think they'd like it, but did.

 

[iloveclones]

There have been a few, but most of the people I hear talking about it don't like it at all.