Rise of the Silver Surfer BOX OFFICE Discussion

[Kelly]

I had to help a friend deal with a field mouse invasion earlier this week (she bought an old house smack in the middle of the woods) so I have mixed feelings about seeing this with my kids today. One of the mice I whacked looked a lot like the main character in Ratatouille: pink nose and paws, almost blueish fur...
By the way, the quickest way to end a mouse problem is to seal up all crevices and possible entrances with steel wool.

Locally, FF2 went from 3 screens to 2. No big loss there.
What really surprised me is that Spidey 3 is gone entirely, and apparently has been for a couple of weeks. (Spidey 2 stayed around almost 3 months) And Pirates 3 is down to 2 shows a day.

Buy a big cat....thats how we got rid our our mice and snakes, and any other little critters.....

Yeah around me we went from 4 to 3 some 2 screens.......yes Spidey is gone in some areas.....and POTC is almost gone as well.....

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^^
whatever *******

What is your problem lad?

 

[Carp Man]

Carp really needs his sig back! This is ridiculous!

I agree. t:

 

[Carp Man]

Fantastic Four, What did the movie have for it's worldwide total on the 2nd Wednesday compared to this movie?

It's impossible to do a WW comparision, because overseas #'s are just a total. Domestic #'s are broken down into days, weekend, and weeks. Not so with overseas. So no comparission between the 1st, and 2nd movie can be done as far as WW #'s, except as a total.

 

[X-Maniac]

While i'm sorry for the FF fans that this movie isnt doing well, i am also glad that it isnt doing well because it is what Fox have had coming to them for a few years IMO.

Fox aren't going to change. Your refusal to pay to see the movie won't suddenly cause a massive policy change. Their ethos has become more popcorn, much lighter, more mainstream. It's a wonder X1 and X2 ever slipped through the net!

You can see they aren't changing: X-Men 3 came out in May 2006 - length 1hr 44mins, RT rating 57%. Despite a leaked draft online, and an uproar from fans, no substantial character events were changed and the movie was relatively short for a third chapter and epic finale.

Then they released:

Eragon - December 2006, length 1hr 39mins (RT rating 16%)
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, June 2007, 1hr 29mins (RT rating 36%)

So no changes in running time or critical 'quality'...

***I could also add the Star Wars prequel trilogy as they offended my personal tastes, but they seemed to get good critical reviews, and run at a decent length, even though I find ROTS far worse than X3.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Fox aren't going to change. Your refusal to pay to see the movie won't suddenly cause a massive policy change. Their ethos has become more popcorn, much lighter, more mainstream. It's a wonder X1 and X2 ever slipped through the net!

You can see they aren't changing: X-Men 3 came out in May 2006 - length 1hr 44mins, RT rating 57%. Despite a leaked draft online, and an uproar from fans, no substantial character events were changed and the movie was relatively short for a third chapter and epic finale.

Then they released:

Eragon - December 2006, length 1hr 39mins (RT rating 16%)
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, June 2007, 1hr 29mins (RT rating 36%)

So no changes in running time or critical 'quality'...

***I could also add the Star Wars prequel trilogy as they offended my personal tastes, but they seemed to get good critical reviews, and run at a decent length, even though I find ROTS far worse than X3.

I know they are not going to change because one movie didnt do well, but i think they will if a few dont, Eragon didnt do the best (and rightly so, the film was a disgrace to the book) and now FF2. Plus, i cant see Wolverine or Magneto making mega bucks.

Also, I think Fox only had distribution rights for the SW prequels, length and editing, etc was all down to George Lucas and his team.

 

[Mercurius]

I had the exact opposite reaction: "Damn, that was actually better! A LOT better!" (And I gave the film a C+ in the review showcase thread; one of the lowest grades anyone gave it.)
I don't know what the general public's word of mouth is, but all 4 of the comic shop owners I've spoken to in recent weeks say their customers' reactions (the ones who have seen it) have been very positive.

And you call C+ a good reception for a movie that should be fantastic.

It was bad word of mouth for months before the release, and the numbers are showing the public "Meh!" (or C+, if you want) to it.

 

[GL's Light]

I could also add the Star Wars prequel trilogy as they offended my personal tastes, but they seemed to get good critical reviews, and run at a decent length, even though I find ROTS far worse than X3.

Fox was only the distributor of the Star Wars prequels though. George Lucas financed them, had complete control over them, and kept most of the revenues.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Fox was only the distributor of the Star Wars prequels though. George Lucas financed them, had complete control over them, and kept most of the revenues.

I thought that was the case, explains why they all had a healthy length to them.

 

[Malus]

And you call C+ a good reception for a movie that should be fantastic.

Compared to the first movie, most definitely.
My primary complaints (brevity of the fiery Galactus, aerial battle scene too dark) compelled me to lower the grade by a letter. Otherwise I'd give it a solid B+ as compared to the D+ I would have given FF1.
The fact is most fans -and moviegoers- enjoyed this film and found it to be a great improvement over the first. The supposed "bad word of mouth" on the internet may have affected whether a few thousand basement dwellers out there bought a ticket, but the general public? Hardly.
The vast majority of people going to see any movie are unaware that AICN, the Hype, CHUD, etc. even exist. Their influence is statistically non-existent.

 

[Bishop2]

BoxOfficeMojo and BoxOfficeReport weekend projections are out. In an unusual move, both are predicting almost the same number for RotSS this weekend - $9 million for Mojo, $9.5 million for Report. This would be bring the cume to just over $115 million domestic so far, keeping it on a fairly steady track towards reaching the traditional measure of success... but it may be close.

 

[Spider-Fan]

9.5 mil would be what % of a drop?

 

[Bishop2]

9.5 mil would be what % of a drop?

About 52%.

 

[Tony Stark]

9.5 mil would be what % of a drop?

In light of the upcoming competition 9.5 million would be a success.

 

[Kelly]

I agree. t:

Nice Edit.....

 

[Tony Stark]

Yeah Ratatouille could go either way......Surf's Up didn't do all that well this summer.....maybe the kids are penguined out and a rat is something new and exciting....lol

I finally took the kids to Surfs Up and realized why it failed. The "mock"umentary style went right over kids head. It was a good movie, but I immagine most kids thought it was boring, and confusing.

 

[Kelly]

I finally took the kids to Surfs Up and realized why it failed. The "mock"umentary style went right over kids head. It was a good movie, but I immagine most kids thought it was boring, and confusing.

I was one that loved "Happy Feet" I saw a "making of...." and fell in love with it......I haven't had a chance to see "Surf's Up" but I'm sure I will see it before it leaves theatres......

Yes I could see how that style of movie would not be great for keeping the attention of the kiddos...

 

[Immodicus]

I was one that loved "Happy Feet" I saw a "making of...." and fell in love with it......I haven't had a chance to see "Surf's Up" but I'm sure I will see it before it leaves theatres......

You "loved" Happy Feet?!

Happy Feet was one of the worst cartoons I have seen in years. Horrid film! Flat "comedy", unintelligent humor, boring plot. Most of these digital cartoons throw bones to the adults, Happy Feet didn't even attempt to.

I have a hard time believing Surf's Up could possibly be as bad as Happy Feet.

 

[Kelly]

You "loved" Happy Feet?!

Happy Feet was one of the worst cartoons I have seen in years. Horrid film! Flat "comedy", unintelligent humor, boring plot. Most of these digital cartoons throw bones to the adults, Happy Feet didn't even attempt to.

I have a hard time believing Surf's Up could possibly be as bad as Happy Feet.

And thats your opinion....that's cool......

 

[Tony Stark]

I know they are not going to change because one movie didnt do well, but i think they will if a few dont, Eragon didnt do the best (and rightly so, the film was a disgrace to the book) and now FF2. Plus, i cant see Wolverine or Magneto making mega bucks.

Also, I think Fox only had distribution rights for the SW prequels, length and editing, etc was all down to George Lucas and his team.

Yeah they totally destroyed Aragon. I can't immagine Christopher Paloni was happy with that movie. Well then again he probably got paid alot of money for it, so maybe he is, lol.

Star Wars was never Fox's, even with the first trillogy. All rights were retained under Lucas films. Fox didn't get one dime for merchandising for anything. Not for video games, action figures, nothing.

Because of Lucas' frustrations with Fox, durring the first movie, that's why he took Indiana Jones to Paramount.

 

[Tony Stark]

You "loved" Happy Feet?!

Happy Feet was one of the worst cartoons I have seen in years. Horrid film! Flat "comedy", unintelligent humor, boring plot. Most of these digital cartoons throw bones to the adults, Happy Feet didn't even attempt to.

I have a hard time believing Surf's Up could possibly be as bad as Happy Feet.

Wouldn't know, I never saw happy feet.

 

[Spider-Fan]

About 52%.

Thats not bad. Considering Die Hard is out and Transformers is right around the corner, literally.

 

[GL's Light]

BOM has the Thursday estimates:

$ 5.95 mil for Die Hard 4
$ 1.827 mil for FF 2 (- 2.3%) for $ 105.748 mil.

FF 1 made $ 2.34 mil on its second Thursday for a total of $ 110.284 mil. The gap has now widened to $ 4.536 mil.

 

[WorthyStevens]

Not a bad drop for Die Hard, considering most Wednesday releases drop over 40% or more the next day.

 

[Bishop2]

You "loved" Happy Feet?!

Happy Feet was one of the worst cartoons I have seen in years. Horrid film! Flat "comedy", unintelligent humor, boring plot. Most of these digital cartoons throw bones to the adults, Happy Feet didn't even attempt to.

I have a hard time believing Surf's Up could possibly be as bad as Happy Feet.

Happy Feet was great. There's a reason it was such a hit.