Breaking Bad

[Upset Spideyfan]

Short of EXPLODING I don't know how Walt's death could have been less ambiguous.

 

[giveyourself12%]

"Felina" wasn't ambiguous in terms of plot but character wise I felt like it was open to interpretation, boiling down to whether or not Walt receives justice or gets away with it. After thinking about it heavily over the last few days I feel like both scenarios and the duel nature of Walt's success are true simultaneously.

The predominant question over the course of the series was if Walt was inherently good or evil and the show, right from the beginning, portrayed a multi-faceted man who (like everyone) was both. That's why he could be a man who loved his family and a selfish prick who only loved himself. A man who provided for his family and destroyed it all at once. A man who could abuse Jesse and a man who could set him free. That dichotomous nature was true not only of him but virtually every character in the show; the decent ones had obvious caveats and the bad ones had moments of benevolence.

So Walt's death ends up being a victory and a defeat. He was able to give his money to his family, always his main goal, but to do it he had to do the thing he never wanted to and turn to the charity of the Schwartz's, ensuring his children will never know it came from him. They'll get the glory. He also ensures the family's safety by dispatching Lydia and the Nazis but he's irreparably ruined their lives regardless. He gives Jesse a chance to live but what kind of fulfilling life can someone so scarred actually have?

Walt appears to be at peace when he dies but to me it's coming from a pretty destitute place. He finally acknowledges his own evil but makes no true apologies for it and dies surrounded by what he loves most: the meth lab. If he feels victory it's a hollow one, even if he did dispense a measure of justice and settle the score before he left.

You mentioned Walt abusing Jesse, are you referring to the Brock thing? Other than Jane, which arguably saved Jesse as well as himself, I'm trying to recall when something like that happened outside of retaliation for Jesse's actions late in the series.

I read a post on another website along those same lines and it got me to wondering.

 

[Brother Jack]

You mentioned Walt abusing Jesse, are you referring to the Brock thing? Other than Jane, which arguably saved Jesse as well as himself, I'm trying to recall when something like that happened outside of retaliation for Jesse's actions late in the series.

I read a post on another website along those same lines and it got me to wondering.

I guess it was more use than abuse, but Walt still caused an unbelievable amount of grief in Jesse's life even if he rationalized much of it by saying it was for his own good. He definitely would have been better off had Walt never started cooking meth.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

Jesse would have been killed by Crazy 8 and Emilio for being a "snitch" if Walt hadn't showed up.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Short of EXPLODING I don't know how Walt's death could have been less ambiguous.

I don't know, I think Vince could have brought the point home more strongly by including a scene at the end where we see walt's corpse slowly rotting in an underground pov shot of him in the casket. They could have made it a music montage!

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

I think Walt should have said "No, Jesse. I AM THE ONE WHO... DIES!!" and then spontaneously combust into a cloud of blue smoke and crystals. And Jesse snorts up whatever remains.

 

[AnneFan]

Yea I used to absolutely HATE not only the ending of The Sopranos but the entire last season but after I read that article a couple months ago I totally changed my tune. That **** is a work of art. Period.

I long held the view the blackness signifies Tony's death via the bathroom guy. As Bobby said, "At the end, you probably don't hear anything, everything just goes black."

Short of EXPLODING I don't know how Walt's death could have been less ambiguous.

Indeed. And I'm glad Walt died in battle and not via the cancer.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

*places "10,000" in bacon-strips for AnneFan's last post*

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

I think Walt should have said "No, Jesse. I AM THE ONE WHO... DIES!!" and then spontaneously combust into a cloud of blue smoke and crystals. And Jesse snorts up whatever remains.

Then Jesse instantly loses his hair but keeps the beard and calls himself Nu-Heisenberg setting up Breaking Bad 2: Break Badder.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

FINALLY!! The truth is revealed of what happened to Huell in AMC's new spin-off 'Huell's Rules'!

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/5f24c5785e/huell-s-rules

 

[giveyourself12%]

Then Jesse instantly loses his hair but keeps the beard and calls himself Nu-Heisenberg setting up Breaking Bad 2: Break Badder.

Jesse's new meth dealing name is King Blowfish.

Jesse: "I am the one who puffs up, yo!!"

Badger: "That's cause he's a blowfish!!"

Skinny Pete: "Church."

 

[Keyser Soze]

You mentioned Walt abusing Jesse, are you referring to the Brock thing? Other than Jane, which arguably saved Jesse as well as himself, I'm trying to recall when something like that happened outside of retaliation for Jesse's actions late in the series.

I read a post on another website along those same lines and it got me to wondering.

I think it was really Season 4 where Walt's protective paternal instincts towards Jesse curdled into emotional abuse.

 

[Killgrave]

Jimmy Kimmel interviewing "Eyebrows"

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Seem like everybody that was ever on the show was there.

 

[Kane52630]

 

[Kane52630]

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Finally in control of his own direction.

 

[Trainwreck2100]

well..........till the cops find him

 

[hellblazer103]

not sure if anyone made the obvious comparison of walt's death to the joker's death in arkham city or batman '89, but that's the first thing i thought of during that shot of him laying on the floor dead, with a slight smile on his face.

jimmy kimmel said something on talking bad about how walt seems pretty much like batman and the joker combined during the finale episode, and i kinda see what he means lol.

 

[Bruce Malone]

I know some others have brought this up but it was fitting how walt in one of the early episodes or the 1st one, talked about how best case scenario he'd only live a couple more years and that's essentially what happened in the end.

I wonder if that was the show's plan the whole time to fulfill that prediction of his?

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Yeah, I was one of them that brought it up. In the Pilot, he found out the cancer the day after his 50th birthday and two years later, he dies after his 52nd birthday.

 

[Project862006]

why does Vince look like little finger

 

[slimshady247]

So do we not have any avvys from the finale? I've only seen one or two on here. Kane?

 

[StarLord]

 

[Tao43]

After rewatching the finale a few more times, I caught something. Walt technically built a robot arm for the showdown, thus fulfilling Jesse's wish for a robot when they were stranded in the RV.

 

[Kane52630]

So do we not have any avvys from the finale? I've only seen one or two on here. Kane?