The Dark Knight Bruce the genius - When will we see that brain power?

[Batmans Spirit]

Nolan said in an interview that we will see Batman's detective skills more in this movie right? I know i heard that somewhere

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

Nolan said in an interview that we will see Batman's detective skills more in this movie right? I know i heard that somewhere

I believe it was the Johnathan Nolan who said that.

 

[I7eIVIoNBoY]

I believe it was the Johnathan Nolan who said that.

John Nolan, Chris Nolan, same family..

 

[Juha]

Well I don't feel like the movie shoud some how underline his wits and near-genious like intelligence. I mean Bruce in the movies always comes off as witty and intelligent and that's cool. Personally I have no urge to see him solving any advanced physics problems. He uses his wits a lot and he's clearly more than just an ass-kicking-machine.

BTW, this has very little to do with intelligence but I would love to see Bale working on something techinal again in TDK. Last time around it was so cool to see Bruce putting together his suit and hooking up lights in the bat cave. Something like that would be great also this time around. And I wanna see Bruce working out! No homo! He may keep his shirt on, that's fine by me. I just want some kind of indication that Batman actually keeps himself in shape. Just doing pull ups or throwing few punches and roundhouse kicks in the air. No Rocky montage but something Bat-like!

 

[The Guard]

Bruce Wayne always struck me as the kind of character who was very learned, and had a mind like a steel trap, but not neccessarily the smartest person who ever lived. It takes some of the interesting aspects out of it if he never has to look anything up or investigate deeply into a concept.

 

[Sun_Down]

I agree but i would say above average intelligence. what i want to see is more though one thing with BB bruce is i dont get the aura of a very intelligent man as i did with B89 bruce you didnt need to show him (B89 Bruce) solving a dozen problems just watch his facial features where you can see his brain working overtime i would call it a just under the skin burning intelligence its a feeling i dont get with BB bruce with the return of Lucius Fox in TDK i dont think we are going to see much more then we did with BB on the intelligence front.

Yeah, I was saying that in BB he seemed average, but I'd love to see him portrayed as smarter in TDK.

 

[elgaz]

Begins could have done it better but there were a few bits which highlighted him as fairly intelligent. His corporate manoeuvering of various charities/companies/etc to buy back the Wayne family business. His analysis of the criminal element in Gotham and his understanding of the fact that Gotham needed a terrifying symbol that the people could look to. His approach to taking down Falcone and giving the 'leverage' to Rachel. He clearly thinks things through.

I agree though, we should see more obvious examples of high intelligence and detective work in TDK - hopefully the two will go hand in hand.

Gaz

 

[DieSmiling]

Bruce in Begins honestly seemed like a man of very average intelligence. It'd be nice to see him portrayed as smarter in TDK.

Personally, I never liked thinking of him as the "smartest man in the DCU" because it made him basically superhuman. So at least they're not overdoing it.

I think he was portrayed as a man above "average" intelligence in Begins. Someone of "average" intelligence is usually very stupid.

The only weak moment in Begins is when Bruce has just survived the fear gas during a confrontation with Scarecrow and Lucius explains how he cured him -- Bruce has no idea what he's talking about. That makes Bruce look stupid. It would have been so easy for Bruce to understand what he was saying, and it would make him look so much smarter. And you can still have the cute little joke, just have Alfred say it.

 

[The Guard]

The only weak moment in Begins is when Bruce has just survived the fear gas during a confrontation with Scarecrow and Lucius explains how he cured him -- Bruce has no idea what he's talking about. That makes Bruce look stupid. It would have been so easy for Bruce to understand what he was saying, and it would make him look so much smarter. And you can still have the cute little joke, just have Alfred say it.

He's faking not understanding.

 

[JayTee]

"Batman's a scientist."

 

[Heretic]

I think that people are missing how much of Bruce is a facade

 

[TNC9852002]

Please, Heretic..Continue.

-TNC

 

[Jinnobi]

Let's remember people. It was Batman "Begins" He had not been the Batman before, and he was still learning the ropes. It takes time for one to get to know the criminal mind and how it thinks. That's why he was doing all that recon stuff, going into the underworld ruled by the criminals. He had to learn. It was a totally different life than what he had been around before.

I am certain that there will be more of his using detective skills in the TDK.

 

[TheBatman072]

I think he was portrayed as a man above "average" intelligence in Begins. Someone of "average" intelligence is usually very stupid.

Uh. No. Average intelligence isn't stupidity. It's average. Below average is stupidity.


There's three, you see. Above average, average, and below average.

 

[MarkJK1441]

didn't he use his intelligence when we was talking bout the fear toxin in begins?

 

[TheBatman072]

didn't he use his intelligence when we was talking bout the fear toxin in begins?

Yes.

 

[DieSmiling]

Uh. No. Average intelligence isn't stupidity. It's average. Below average is stupidity.


There's three, you see. Above average, average, and below average.

I guess it's all how you think about it. To me, the average person is pretty dumb. You can say that intrinsically being "average" means they aren't, but I don't see how that matters. It's about perspective, the scale you use.

 

[DieSmiling]

He's faking not understanding.

Why? By that point Lucius clearly knows he's Batman. What's he faking for?

 

[The Guard]

I don't know why he'd be faking. In case he was being taped or recorded? A general precaution. Always best not to come right out and say "I ran into some trouble as Batman last night" whenever you can.

 

[The Battousai]

Let's take America, for example:

The average person in America has a below-average intelligence.

The problem was that some of you guys were making the situation ambiguous - attaching one description to more than one variable

 

[Juha]

He wasn't faking.

I analyzed your blood and isolated its receptor compounds and it's carbon based catalyst.

I'm not sure what that sentence means and I consider myself to be a rather smart person. If you're not that schooled in chemical biology or something like that, it doesn't mean you're below average intellectually.

Bruce Wayne is no chemist. He's highly clever but he is no chemist. But that doesn't mean he couldn't learn about those things. I could be a chemist but I don't have the natural talent for that and I'm not at all motivated to learn the science of chemistry. That doesn't make me dumb.

 

[TNC9852002]

Yeah, and I don't think a person of average intelligence can just get into Princeton, BTW.

-TNC

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I think he was portrayed as a man above "average" intelligence in Begins. Someone of "average" intelligence is usually very stupid.

The only weak moment in Begins is when Bruce has just survived the fear gas during a confrontation with Scarecrow and Lucius explains how he cured him -- Bruce has no idea what he's talking about. That makes Bruce look stupid. It would have been so easy for Bruce to understand what he was saying, and it would make him look so much smarter. And you can still have the cute little joke, just have Alfred say it.

He was pretending to be stupid to Fox. Remember when he woke up from the fear gas he was explaining to Alfred about the familiarity of the gas and how it was weaponized.

 

[TNC9852002]

You know...I'm not...100% sure that Lucius knows...for absolutely sure that Bruce Wayne IS Batman...I just think that Lucius thinks Bruce just...does some crazy stuff with all of that equipment and one day got hit by a weaponized hallucinogen..

-TNC

 

[TheBatman072]

I guess it's all how you think about it. To me, the average person is pretty dumb. You can say that intrinsically being "average" means they aren't, but I don't see how that matters. It's about perspective, the scale you use.

Not...really.


But okay. Whatever you say.