Silvermoth
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Hmm, still not convinced about those scriptwriters but there's plenty of time to prove me wrong when I see the movie
I agree that Feige somewhat thinks he can run a movie business like it's a business, but let's be honest, most audiences are not caring about cross-over of characters. They were not aware of it in Iron Man 2 and I think it's a little to early to say that after one film of alleged "Avengers commercial (a sentiment I not only do not share but feels like it undermines the movie)" that there will be much cross over business in these films. Shield has a presence but I doubt it will interfere with the story. People forget that Shield was worked in nicely in the film. I think the writing was the bigger problem with Iron Man 2 than anything else.
The biggest problem I think a lot of people had with Iron Man 2 is that it lacked the soul of the first movie. Comparitavely, it was not nearly as dark. Considering that the plot was largely about Tony Stark dying from poisoning, it just plain didn't have the drama to make it feel real. The redemptive message of the first film was never really matched in the second movie. I would have loved to see a movie where Tony Stark has turned to the bottle to cope with his anxiety about possibly dying, and by that I don't mean getting drunk at a party and making himself look silly. I mean he's hitting the hard liquor just to get through his day, and not realizing how much he's hurting the people around him.
Someone made a great suggestion over at the IM board that instead of Rhodey showing up and roughhousing with Tony on his birthday, Whiplash should have crashed Tony's party and kicked his ass, and almost get some of Tony's guests killed in the process. The message would not have come across as "Tony was having fun and being a little clumsy, but then Rhodey showed up and was a party pooper." It would have come across as what was probably intended, which was "Tony is using his possible as an excuse for a self destructive lifestyle, and wasting his life away on booze is going to get people hurt or possibly killed, including himself."
Tony was supposed to get knocked down a couple pegs in Iron Man 2, but he never got anywhere near as low as he was in the first movie when he was at his lowest, and as a result, we never really got the sense that he'd been "redeemed" at any point in the movie, nor did we really get the sense that he needed to be redeemed. Iron Man took us on an emotional rollercoaster ride of highs and lows, but Iron Man 2 just kind of happened. That doesn't mean it was bad, but it was kind of your run-of-the-mill "competent, but forgettable sequel." I hope that Marvel doesn't make the same mistakes with the sequels they make to their movies in the future.
I'm not sure about that line about the sequel being set in modern times after the Avengers. It reads as though it's the conclusion of the person writing the article. Unless this film effectively shows us that what happens in the film is essentially all he did in WWII then there should still be potential for WWII era stories. Not that I'm saying they should feel forced to, but it wouldn't hurt if they at least had some of the next film set as flashbacks to WWII.
This shows a lot of confidence in their product they have, so I am very encouraged by this news
There is plenty of time to get Cap 2 made, especially if it is being scripted now. I'd be happy with a 2013 of Captain America 2 and Iron Man 3
True. But I'm sure The Incredible Hulk had long term plans as well, but that went nowhere. Good to know the sequel is already somewhat in the works.Doesn't show confidence really. They already have all these movies slated up through 2018 or so. They have stated that they have long term plans in place whether we know the details or not.
True. But I'm sure The Incredible Hulk had long term plans as well, but that went nowhere. Good to know the sequel is already somewhat in the works.
Why hasn't Thor 2 been greenlit yet? Does Marvel think Thor won't do too hot?
Who knows, but I'm not sure why anyone would think that based off some leaked unrelated info. Theres no "greenlight". Just hiring scriptwriters.
Why hasn't Thor 2 been greenlit yet? Does Marvel think Thor won't do too hot?
what year is the avengers movie suppose to come out?
Wildcat - who says they are making this Cap movie to get him to the present day?
It's possible it's to introduce the character and establish why he is the living legend of WWII.
The Avengers could [and SHOULD] be the vehicle that gets him into modern times, just like Marvel did it in 1964.
Not to be mean or anything, but the exact same thing will happen to Cap or GL if the movies underperform. Hiring screenwriters doesn't mean anything in terms of a sequel actually getting made this early on.Not to be mean or anything, but they did have actors signed for a TIH sequel too. And TIH had a sequel hook to it. I hope the same fate doesn't happen to Thor if it underperforms.
Well at least Hulk is getting a tv show.
Not to be mean or anything, but they did have actors signed for a TIH sequel too. And TIH had a sequel hook to it. I hope the same fate doesn't happen to Thor if it underperforms.
Well at least Hulk is getting a tv show.
Its not mean at all. We are talking about 2 different things. Thats what I was trying to say.
The original suggestion was that hiring the script writers was a sign of their "confidence" in the Cap movie. I think its irrelevant because they ALWAYS have scripts ready and actors on the hook for the sequels. It doesn't mean anything. It also doesn't mean anythings been "greenlit" any more than any other sequel. Its just one that happened to get leaked. It wasn't an "announcement" or anything, just an inside leak.
I just think some are looking WAY to much into it is all i'm really saying. Its not a barometer for anything.
I honestly think TIH would have had a sequel except for 2 things:
1) Norton and Marvel not seeing eye to eye, which we all know. We just don't know exactly about what. It was easier just to go with Iron Man II until they got it worked out (which they just did with Ruffalo recently). I think they were TRYING to work it out with Norton but just couldn't.
2) They were more worried about Avengers and getting the other setup movies done to get it off the ground. They were operating at Max capacity at the time getting the others done. Feige said they were only capable of doing about 2 movies a year at the time, but they wanted to build up to do 4.
I think its an organic situation and not as simple as some are thinking. Not that black and white IMO. Last time I heard them speak of it they are STILL planning a sequel for Hulk AND the TV show (which they made the comment that the TV show WOULD NOT be tied into the movie-verse). Its just not a high priority until they build up to a bigger production schedule capability.
Not to be mean or anything, but the exact same thing will happen to Cap or GL if the movies underperform. Hiring screenwriters doesn't mean anything in terms of a sequel actually getting made this early on.