Captain Marvel Captain Marvel General Discussion and Speculation - Part 6

[Aximili86]

Pretty much.

I'm a tiny fraction wary on the directors given their short resume too, but hell, I was that way with the Russos too. Less so with Watts given how much I loved his indie flick, but same principle.

Really doubt Boden & Fleck aren't up to this - for Feige to hire newbies on their level they must have impressed him somehow.

"Reshoots!" as a knee-jerk reaction is dumb. If it's 30-40% of the movie Rogue One type reshoots and Deadline and Variety start reporting the set's a mess, then something's a problem. Not until, though.

 

[flickchick85]

Boden and Fleck have a much stronger resume than the Russos, IMO. All their movies (as writers AND directors) are critically acclaimed, and one was an Oscar contender. They are very proven as storytellers at this point, more so than most MCU directors after Phase 1, with the probable exception of Coogler.

 

[Aximili86]

Whoa, yeah, just googled them and saw Mississippi Grind isn't their only film within the studio system. Always just figured the priors were ultra-low budgeted indie/student films, but not the case.

Yeah, well, they're more than accomplished enough then. Russos probably had a little more hours under their belt, but mostly in TV, and Watts less so.

Unless there's some actual creative disagreement between them and Feige (Taylor/Wright style), seriously doubt the stuff in that podcast. Feige seems to like Perlman's script work, the directors aren't strangers to at least a moderate budget, and Feige basically rules Marvel with an iron fist now that Perlmutter no longer has any say.

The accusations seem like bull**** to me.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I would say in the experience category on phase 2/3 directors, Peyton Reed is likely the most experienced. But clearly not the best resume.

 

[Aximili86]

I don't know about that. Reed's been working in the industry since '89 according to imdb, and his career highpoints were pretty similar rom-com type films to what the Russos had been doing. He's hardly a big deal pre-AntMan, but had an established career going at the feature film level.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I don't know about that. Reed's been working in the industry since '89 according to imdb, and his career highpoints were pretty similar rom-com type films to what the Russos had been doing. He's hardly a big deal pre-AntMan, but had an established career going at the feature film level.

Right, and I said Reed is likely the most experienced For major blockbusters, no. But he's had steady work for years.

 

[Aximili86]

Ahh, crap. Heh, sorry, misread that as "inexperienced". Jumping between threads too long methinks, probably time to sign off for now.

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

No he should not have. Kevin Feige doesn't care about the TV division. He never has. I believe he has said that as far as the MCU movies go, Coulson is still dead.

He's wrong, because he's not dead.

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

So I’m listening to a podcast called Nerdificent and the hosts are two people involved in the film/comedy community and one of them on the recent Ant-man and the Wasp episode revealed that she’s heard rumors of trouble from the Captain Marvel set. Apparently the reshoots are more extensive than they’d like and not everyone is thrilled with the script.

If you’d like to hear it for yourself it’s around the 28 minute mark.

Thoughts?

Sounds like the kind of rumours sexists start because they don't like a woman in the lead role. Not saying the hosts are sexists, but the source of the rumour one of the hosts heard may be.

 

[flickchick85]

I would say in the experience category on phase 2/3 directors, Peyton Reed is likely the most experienced. But clearly not the best resume.

Which is why I said most “proven” instead of “experienced,” because while Reed’s resume is longer, it’s very hit-and-miss, while these two have been consistently strong.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Which is why I said most “proven” instead of “experienced,” because while Reed’s resume is longer, it’s very hit-and-miss, while these two have been consistently strong.

100% agreed. He is a dependable director from a studio standpoint. He will make sure it gets done and looks professional, but not the guy you expect to hit a home run.

 

[legendkillin]

He's wrong, because he's not dead.

He said as far as the movies go...


Which would mean he won't appear in the present time movies. This is a flashback movie. Not everyone watches the tv shows, he is alive in the MCU but not if you only watch the movies like most do.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

What kills me about rumors like this is that they show just how many people in the film blog/vlogosphere not only have absolutely no idea how movies are made, but that they also have no BS detector whatsoever. They just finished principal photography on the film... there isn't even an assembly cut yet. This really reminds me of the WW rumors that claimed WB hated the film and a few days later Patty Jenkins pointed out they hadn't even finished the assembly cut(meaning there was no film for anyone to hate or be worried about).

This. They won't know what type of stuff they need until they get the assembly cut done, which likely won't be for another month or two. Marvel usually has a timetable built into the schedule for when and how long they need to shoot pickups, which I'm expecting to be between December and February.

 

[Aximili86]

Jesus, Dalek. As far as the movies are concerned, Coulson's been dead since 2012. Joss and Kevin both consider him toast.

 

[BaronZemo]

Give me those podcaster's track record. Not vague "they know insiders", i can claim that. Their legit track record with scoops. Track records are everything and the most reliable safety lock.

Although i admit that the numbers of screenwriters CAN be concerning i don't believe for the life of me that the co-writer of Inside out, the co-writer of Guardians 1 and the writer of the Gamora comic which was amazing+ the creators of Glow+ the directors who are also pretty prolific writers couldn't make a solid script. I just can't buy it.

 

[Havok83]

I was hoping to see this

Spoiler

teased in Antman and the Wasp. Sadly that didnt happen

 

[The Sand Master]

Sounds like the kind of rumours sexists start because they don't like a woman in the lead role. Not saying the hosts are sexists, but the source of the rumour one of the hosts heard may be.

Where do you get sexism from the sentence 'rumours of trouble from the Captain Marvel set'?
Please don't jump to misandry conclusions in order to look like a white knight or SJW, it looks ridiculous without any proof or evidence.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

That’s awesome.

Agents of SHIELD, a show that has run for five seasons, and was renewed for a sixth. I think that counts as Coulson being a major deal.

No, it doesn’t count as him being a big deal at all, the show has struggled to be renewed for the last few seasons, I am glad it has as I am a fan, but Coulson is absolutely not a big deal, and to say so is ridiculous.

 

[Loki882]

That art looks amazing, and predictable people in other places are freaking out over the "Carol better not be a Mary Sue" nonsense.

 

[flickchick85]

Kelly Sue DeConnick talks about the movie a little bit in a new interview. Sounds like she's probably read a draft of the script:

And finally, a question that I think I know the answer to, but I’m going to ask it anyway for posterity: How excited are you for the Captain Marvel movie?

Apoplectically excited! I know things! And I have to say, I feel very good about it. These movies are fun, they’re supposed to be fun and it is fun, it’s hilarious, it’s going to be amazing. But it’s also important, and important I think for a lot of the reasons that we just talked about. It’s important to be able to see women in these roles. We’ve seen Wonder Woman which was so important to a lot of people, as well. I’m trying to figure out the best way to articulate this… The same way we were talking about Carol and Jessica, they can both be wonderful and they can mean a lot in very different ways. It’s going to be great, you guys.

https://www.lootcrate.com/community...th-captain-marvel-writer-kelly-sue-deconnick/

 

[SwiftFox]

I loved that entire interview. Kelly Sue is a treasure and I'm so glad it's her version of Carol we're getting.

 

[pixen]

I wouldn’t put any thought into those rumors. It’s the easiest thing for a “scooper” to get on a comic film. Happened with Deadpool 2, Antman and the Wasp, literally any comic movie in the past 5 years.

If the script wasn’t good, they would have pushed it. This film has been in development for a long time and thought out and I’m sure most kinks were ironed out along the way.

 

[Silvermoth]

I loved that entire interview. Kelly Sue is a treasure and I'm so glad it's her version of Carol we're getting.

Same! I hope she gets a cameo like Brubaker got to have in winter soldier

 

[Abudefduf]

Kelly Sue DeConnick talks about the movie a little bit in a new interview. Sounds like she's probably read a draft of the script:

https://www.lootcrate.com/community...th-captain-marvel-writer-kelly-sue-deconnick/

Well, it's good to know that the best Carol Danvers writer ever likes the script. Don't @ me, Reed fanboys, you know you're wrong.

 

[Saitou Hajime]

I don't buy the BTS rumors. When Marvel screws the pooch, it's usually a lot louder than this.