Sequels CARNAGE & LIZARD for "SPIDER-MAN 4" confirmed already!?

Good find, although I don't believe a word of it.:cwink:
 
don't believe a word of it but I really hope sam (if he returns) steers well clear of carnage an even worse villain than venom.
 
I think Lizard is a no-brainer for SM4. That's not really news after his buildup in the previous flicks. I wouldn't mind seeing Black Cat either as I think it's time for a bonafide Spidey ally showed up.
Carnage? NO WAY! Cletus Kasady and PG-13 don't belong in the same sentence. Not to mention Raimi would likely do a worse job w/ Carnage than he did with Venom. I don't want to read an article where Raimi tries to justify Carnage being female so she can be a mirror image of Mary Jane only with an overactive sex drive. If Raimi directs, he should stick to the classic villians because it's obvious that is all he understands.
 
sam 'understands' silver age villians. you just KNOW had he been left alone with sandman and GG2 he would have done sandman justice.

SM4
ONE VILLIAN PLEEEEASE!!!
before this francise goes the way of batman (before BB)

I wouldn't mind black cat in this movie so you have a pete, mj black love triangle. I also wouldn't mind a throwaway villian (rhino, shocker etc) but the story should center around peter, conner's and his family.
 
here's the thing... if people think that venom is still alive look again... when spidey throw the pumpkin bomb into the symbiote and brock jusmps in look at the explosion... there's a skeleton much like the one's seen in the first one on the balcony scene with the board members... carnage can't be brought in unless they totally mess things up worse because carnage comes from the venom syniote when brock and cassidy have cells next to eachother in prison... i've heard talk about the hobgoblin... again, impossible because the hobgoblin was harry's psychiatrist and have we seen any sign of him going to therapy... no... also there was talk of actually using the vulture in spidey one but they went with goblin instead... so i think they may use him... i do agree with the lizard theory they did show connors quite a bit in the 3rd one... so who knows... in closing hobgoblin, venom and carnage are out... oh and to whoever thinks that gweb stacy is the black cat check your sources... felicia hardy is the cat... stacy dies... sorry to run through your bubble garden with a pin but that's how it is...
 
I think the Lizard and one other minor villain would be ok. The thing I'm most concerned about is the fact that I'm not convinced with Dylan Baker as a lead actor. Maybe I just haven't seen him enough, but I don't think he could be lead in a Spider-man flick.
 
NO CARNAGE, he's just a red VENOM. THE LIZARD should be the MAIN VILLAIN in SM4, maybe with Kraven The Hunter (with a bit of Kraven's Last Hunt story arc) as a secondary villain. If not KRAVEN then ELECTRO as a featured villain.

Carnage would be a huge mistake for SM4, we need classic villains.
 
I don't want to read an article where Raimi tries to justify Carnage being female so she can be a mirror image of Mary Jane only with an overactive sex drive. If Raimi directs, he should stick to the classic villians because it's obvious that is all he understands.

LOL you're probably right :cwink:

D!
 
here's the thing... if people think that venom is still alive look again... when spidey throw the pumpkin bomb into the symbiote and brock jusmps in look at the explosion... there's a skeleton much like the one's seen in the first one on the balcony scene with the board members... carnage can't be brought in unless they totally mess things up worse because carnage comes from the venom syniote when brock and cassidy have cells next to eachother in prison... i've heard talk about the hobgoblin... again, impossible because the hobgoblin was harry's psychiatrist and have we seen any sign of him going to therapy... no... also there was talk of actually using the vulture in spidey one but they went with goblin instead... so i think they may use him... i do agree with the lizard theory they did show connors quite a bit in the 3rd one... so who knows... in closing hobgoblin, venom and carnage are out... oh and to whoever thinks that gweb stacy is the black cat check your sources... felicia hardy is the cat... stacy dies... sorry to run through your bubble garden with a pin but that's how it is...



But in 3 you hear Eddie Brock Jr about 80 times. In the comics its simply just Eddie Brock. So do you guys think this is something to consider or what?
 
But in 3 you hear Eddie Brock Jr about 80 times. In the comics its simply just Eddie Brock. So do you guys think this is something to consider or what?

No its not, stop with this nonsense already people.
 
If Venom fans weren't happy with what Raimi did to Venom,then why would they want Carnage in the next movie so bad if Raimi is making it?Seems like they still haven't learned to be patient and wait for the right director to be on board who actually likes the character.(Raimi could make Carnage a female villain)
 
i loved Raimis Venom, and id hope for Raimi to do Carnage alongside with Lizard for 4.
 
Raimi won't come back if he can't pick the villians. If Sony wants Carnage I'm pretty sure he's out.
 
Raimi won't come back if he can't pick the villians. If Sony wants Carnage I'm pretty sure he's out.

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Yeah I don't see Raimi and Carnage together.If Sony gets Raimi to make this movie then we will not see Carnage,and if Sony can't get Raimi then we will probably see Carnage.:csad:
 
Drop the damn love triangles. Keep it simple like the first one. He loves Mary Jane and only her. No other girl. Felicia Hardy? go for it. but no love triangle please.
 
here's the thing... if people think that venom is still alive look again... when spidey throw the pumpkin bomb into the symbiote and brock jusmps in look at the explosion... there's a skeleton much like the one's seen in the first one on the balcony scene with the board members... carnage can't be brought in unless they totally mess things up worse because carnage comes from the venom syniote when brock and cassidy have cells next to eachother in prison... i've heard talk about the hobgoblin... again, impossible because the hobgoblin was harry's psychiatrist and have we seen any sign of him going to therapy... no... also there was talk of actually using the vulture in spidey one but they went with goblin instead... so i think they may use him... i do agree with the lizard theory they did show connors quite a bit in the 3rd one... so who knows... in closing hobgoblin, venom and carnage are out... oh and to whoever thinks that gweb stacy is the black cat check your sources... felicia hardy is the cat... stacy dies... sorry to run through your bubble garden with a pin but that's how it is...

doesnt any one remember the article with an un-named actor who said "u think my character dies in this movie but he really doesnt." who else is it gonna be, its either brock or harry.
 
I'm not convinced with Dylan Baker as a lead actor. Maybe I just haven't seen him enough, but I don't think he could be lead in a Spider-man flick.

Baker wouldn't be LEADING S-M:4, it will be whoever's playing Parker/S-M. True, Baker is not a leading man, in Drive, he was a dying father who wanted to go on the cross-country race with his daughter, his last hurrah, as it were. Other than Drive, I haven't seen Baker in anything.
 
doesnt any one remember the article with an un-named actor who said "u think my character dies in this movie but he really doesnt." who else is it gonna be, its either brock or harry.

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More like the symbiote that Dr.Connors uses to turn himself into the Lizard.Just like when they said there would be four villains in this movie,it turned out that the symbiote was considered one.
 
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More like the symbiote that Dr.Connors uses to turn himself into the Lizard.Just like when they said there would be four villains in this movie,it turned out that the symbiote was considered one.
That would make sense. Just one minor problem: the symbiote is mostly a CGI character, not an actor.
 

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