Cate Blanchett is the Mysterious & Powerful Villainess HELA! - Part 1

[Iceman]

Yep agreed loved Ego and Vulture doesn't hurt to have two Hollywood legends play those roles either

I trust the Russo's won't fumble on Thanos

Lets hope they get to use Hela fingers crossed

Yep 2 legends, exactly.

I totally trust the Russos and they certainly haven’t contributed to Marvel’s weak villain issue in their 2 films to date. I’m sure they can do a good job with Thanos and even better if they get their mitts on Cate!

 

[DeadStroke]

Honestly I went with Vulture as well. It came down to this, both characters had fantastic performances by their actors. But Vulture, was just a better-written and more interesting character imo. Also it felt like he got more focus than she did.

She seemed oddly disconnected from the film, at least after all the stuff on Skaar. Blanchett is clearly having fun and makes any scene she’s in but there’s that transition where you’re left with at weird empty spot in the film.

I agree with this. Her character just isn't that well written in the story. Its actually very typical Marvel villain.....However...

Cate Blachette does something that hasn't been done in a while. She's the great actress who figures out a way to overcome the material. Usually the other great actors can't despite them being so good (think Mads in Doctor Strange)

Also Cate was the most beautiful villain I've seen since Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman in Batman Returns. Just stunning.


I'd say Michael Keaton's Vulture was a "better" villain in terms of his story being intertwined with hero. Cate still did a great job with what she was given and I hope to see more of her.

 

[Finarfiniel]

Cate's booty looked sexy in that form fitting Hela outfit, I hated when they covered it up with a cape.

Hela Hot Toys has been announced/put up for Pre-Orders!

Wow, that is a thing of beauty, Hot Toys do it again. The likeness to Cate is almost freaky! I'd love to see a variation with helmetless Hela too.

I agree with this. Her character just isn't that well written in the story. Its actually very typical Marvel villain.....However...

Cate Blachette does something that hasn't been done in a while. She's the great actress who figures out a way to overcome the material. Usually the other great actors can't despite them being so good (think Mads in Doctor Strange)

Also Cate was the most beautiful villain I've seen since Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman in Batman Returns. Just stunning.


I'd say Michael Keaton's Vulture was a "better" villain in terms of his story being intertwined with hero. Cate still did a great job with what she was given and I hope to see more of her.

And that's why I prefer Hela. The writing is better for Vulture but the performance is more memorable for Hela. Put a lesser actress in that role and she very well could have been a completely flat, uninteresting character but Cate elevated the material she was given so much. Her Hela absolutely oozes personality, the pure disdain and wicked venom she puts into her voice when she sees that Hogun isn't dead and is all 'Oh look, still alive!' is pure awesome. I love Hela because she's such a snarker, she loves what she does and she gives zero ****s. She has the entire Asgardian army laid out infront of her with their weapons raised and she's just checking her nails disinterestedly. It's so much fun to see a villain just take ownership of how ****ed up they are and revel in it, it makes a nice change from conflicted, emotionally tormented villains IMO.

 

[HammerDown]

Concept art from Andy Park.

 

[BigThor]

Oh my yes, if only the lightning was better.

 

[Raiden]

Wow, that is a thing of beauty, Hot Toys do it again. The likeness to Cate is almost freaky! I'd love to see a variation with helmetless Hela too.



And that's why I prefer Hela. The writing is better for Vulture but the performance is more memorable for Hela. Put a lesser actress in that role and she very well could have been a completely flat, uninteresting character but Cate elevated the material she was given so much. Her Hela absolutely oozes personality, the pure disdain and wicked venom she puts into her voice when she sees that Hogun isn't dead and is all 'Oh look, still alive!' is pure awesome. I love Hela because she's such a snarker, she loves what she does and she gives zero ****s. She has the entire Asgardian army laid out infront of her with their weapons raised and she's just checking her nails disinterestedly. It's so much fun to see a villain just take ownership of how ****ed up they are and revel in it, it makes a nice change from conflicted, emotionally tormented villains IMO.

Well-said. Personally, I don't understand why Blanchette's Hela can't be put int the same conversation as Ledger's Joker. In fact, Hela's backstory and motivation to destroy Asgard were explained much better than Joker's in TDK, and despite that people did not call Joker an one-dimensional villain because Ledger acted the heck out of that role. I felt Blanchette did equally as good a performance as Ledger, and both villains had no remorse in their wrongdoings and actually relished the destruction and mayhem they've caused. They are not tormented souls who had an inner desire to do the right thing but became a villain due to desperation.

 

[Iceman]

She just wasn’t in it long enough. I’d like to see a comparison of their screen time.

 

[BigThor]

She was in it a lot longer than I expected her to be with all this "she doesn't get enough screentime, she's under developed" stuff people have been spewing.

 

[Iceman]

Concept art from Andy Park.
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So good

 

[DeadStroke]

Well-said. Personally, I don't understand why Blanchette's Hela can't be put int the same conversation as Ledger's Joker. In fact, Hela's backstory and motivation to destroy Asgard were explained much better than Joker's in TDK, and despite that people did not call Joker an one-dimensional villain because Ledger acted the heck out of that role. I felt Blanchette did equally as good a performance as Ledger, and both villains had no remorse in their wrongdoings and actually relished the destruction and mayhem they've caused. They are not tormented souls who had an inner desire to do the right thing but became a villain due to desperation.

She just wasn’t in it long enough. I’d like to see a comparison of their screen time.

Not only that we didn't get to see the hero have enough direct conflict with the villain.

I agree that performance wise Cate could have been the best MCU villain and one of the best villains ever. However, this wasn't that kind of movie. I think Vulture was a better villain, but he was in a boring film compared to this.

I'd be really interested in seeing her character in a darker movie that explores the character. Her father basically made her the executioner then discarded her the minute he had a change of heart. There would be so much to explore about how and why she feels that way.

She was in it a lot longer than I expected her to be with all this "she doesn't get enough screentime, she's under developed" stuff people have been spewing.

Its not that she doesn't have screen time. It's just that it really does seem like two different movies are going on. The stuff with the Hulk almost makes Asgard feel like an afterthought and takes away from what Hela is doing.

But as stated earlier without Cate it would have been really flat and uninteresting. You get a bit letdown to see the Asgard stuff again and then she does something to bring the spark back.

 

[Iceman]

Who knows how good she could be in a future film now that she’s already been introduced and the backstory is out the way. Marvel definitely better be signing her up as she has so much more potential.

 

[HammerDown]

Cate Blanchett's Hela was good and one of the better Marvel villains. But i do agree that she could have been the best marvel villain, if she would have had more to do and more of her backstory, motivation and anger where to be explored. Still she was a good enough villain to play off the heroes in TR. Cate Blanchett owns very bit of that performance.

I would like to see her come back. But i don't know if they can make it happen in IW with everything going on with that movie already. I guess if they wanted they could make her fit in, but at what cost... We shall see in a few months.

 

[Ragnaroknroll]

She's coming back. I'd bet on it.

 

[Bren]

She was in it a lot longer than I expected her to be with all this "she doesn't get enough screentime, she's under developed" stuff people have been spewing.

You really don't do well with that crazy 'different opinions' concept...

Some people thought she didn't have enough screen time and was underdeveloped.

If you say you are happy about her screen time and development, should I say you too are spewing out stuff?

I accepted what we got, but do think she was underdeveloped, and considering how awesome she was to watch, I would have preferred her having more screen time.

There, some more spew for you.

 

[Finarfiniel]

Well-said. Personally, I don't understand why Blanchette's Hela can't be put int the same conversation as Ledger's Joker. In fact, Hela's backstory and motivation to destroy Asgard were explained much better than Joker's in TDK, and despite that people did not call Joker an one-dimensional villain because Ledger acted the heck out of that role. I felt Blanchette did equally as good a performance as Ledger, and both villains had no remorse in their wrongdoings and actually relished the destruction and mayhem they've caused. They are not tormented souls who had an inner desire to do the right thing but became a villain due to desperation.

In my opinion, Cate's performance is up there with Ledger's but unfortunately the character of Hela just doesn't have the writing or the focus behind her that the Joker does in TDK so most won't see her on the same level. But I totally agree that it's so much fun to see a villain that just revels in their own wickedness and destuction. That's why Hela is such a fun villain and why so many have taken to her despite the slight issues with sceen time and development.

I would like to see her come back. But i don't know if they can make it happen in IW with everything going on with that movie already. I guess if they wanted they could make her fit in, but at what cost... We shall see in a few months.

It's not a case of 'fitting her in' if Hela being in IW has been the plan all along. Feige is on record as saying that the very first thing they decided about Ragnarok was that Hela was going to be the villain, that was after they changed their minds about making her the villain in TDW. I think Hela being the villain in Ragnarok played into their decision to use her in IW rather than Death. We know from Josh Brolin's IG post that Thanos definitely has a love interest of some sort in IW, doesn't it make much more sense time-wise for them to use a character that the audience already knows rather than potentially waste screen time introducing a whole new one?

You really don't do well with that crazy 'different opinions' concept...

Some people thought she didn't have enough screen time and was underdeveloped.

If you say you are happy about her screen time and development, should I say you too are spewing out stuff?

I accepted what we got, but do think she was underdeveloped, and considering how awesome she was to watch, I would have preferred her having more screen time.

There, some more spew for you.

As a Hela (and Cate) fan, I'm overall satisfied with her portrayal in Ragnarok, but I definitely could have done with more of her. A lot more. Hell, I want a whole movie centered around her, but I know that's not likely to happen.

 

[Finarfiniel]

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^^ I could have written this video myself, so awesome. It features pretty much all the reasons that I believe that Hela will be in IW and/or A4.

 

[BigThor]

You really don't do well with that crazy 'different opinions' concept...

Some people thought she didn't have enough screen time and was underdeveloped.

If you say you are happy about her screen time and development, should I say you too are spewing out stuff?

I accepted what we got, but do think she was underdeveloped, and considering how awesome she was to watch, I would have preferred her having more screen time.

There, some more spew for you.

There, ignore list for you

 

[Bren]

Haha, that's hilarious. Reinforces my point, too.

 

[Iceman]

Cate Blanchett's Hela was good and one of the better Marvel villains. But i do agree that she could have been the best marvel villain, if she would have had more to do and more of her backstory, motivation and anger where to be explored. Still she was a good enough villain to play off the heroes in TR. Cate Blanchett owns very bit of that performance.

I would like to see her come back. But i don't know if they can make it happen in IW with everything going on with that movie already. I guess if they wanted they could make her fit in, but at what cost... We shall see in a few months.

Who are the best Marvel villains? I think she's my favorite even with less screen time.

 

[HammerDown]

Who are the best Marvel villains? I think she's my favorite even with less screen time.

Loki, Hela, Winter Soldier, Ego...

 

[Iceman]

Loki, Hela, Winter Soldier, Ego...

I like all those for sure but Hela has the edge and I think with another performance allowing more time I think she would develop more of a gap out in front. Cate just suits her perfectly (IMO even more than Galadriel!).

 

[Zyraquis]

There was that one look toward the end when

Spoiler

she saw that Skurge was helping the people escape just that one or two seconds, her facial expression says: Oh poor Skurge, too bad you chose the wrong side, it is a shame I have to kill you”. Before she offed him.

Not a single word, just one look. That’s fantastic acting.

In the Marvel non comic universe . I would rank her perhaps 3rd on top of my head behind Kingpin (I’d rank daredevil season one ahead of all MCU movies), then Loki.

 

[Iceman]

Kingpin was great. Obviously had so much more time to develop and get into the deeper parts of the character. The more surface level stuff we saw from Hela was amazing and if we get to dig deeper one day she is going to be an absolute world-beater. I already see her as the best MCU villain (not comparing against the Netflix guys Kingpin and Purple Man who have a big advantage) but there are bigger titles she could claim with more exposure.

 

[HammerDown]

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[Murdock103]

I liked Hela. Although more than Hela, I liked the extra depth her character gave to Odin to be honest.

Obviously there’s the stuff in the movie with him covering up Asgard’s seedy history, but I think it adds more depth to the first Thor film.

Thor goes after the Frost Giants, and Odin immediately banishes Thor. Except it makes sense now. Was he seeing the blood thirsty Odin in Thor? Was he seeing his second child following in the war like tendencies of his first born?

I rewatched those banishment scenes after Ragnarok, and it just adds an extra layer.