Chapter 20 - "Five Years Gone" - Discussion Thread 4/30/07

dang. I had a theory about Peter's scar, but this week's comic blew it out of the water.
 
awesome ep. i really wanted to see what was going on on the other side of that door.

is everything alright?

no, let's go fix it.
 
go find another show to watch. you've done nothing but ***** about it on the board. so quit wasting your time and go learn to have fun.
How about answering my questions. They're legitimate and easy things to spot, or do you just watch the show like: "OMG! Super powers! I better turn my brain off." You've read the comic, found out about the scar, so tell me the answer to my question rather than blindly defending something because I happen to have an opposing view.
I'm guess the words "bitter" and "lost fan" would be a far better description
Yeah, I am a fan of Lost. But what is there to be bitter about?
 
well, maybe the scar was after the explosion, who knows? Peter could have had a run in with The Haitian?
 
I would love to here someone's theory on this because it is the only plot flaw i noticed in an otherwise magnificant episode....Peter clearly can stop time when he needs to...he does it to save Hiro and Ando and he makes refernce to his ability to do it when he is about to face off with the guards outside the building stating "I haven't had a good fight in a while"....This made sense to me because he knew he could wreck the guards....

It also makes sense why he initially thought he couldn't do it upstairs if the Haitian was alive. However, once he saw the haitian dead, why not stop time...he could easily defeat Sylar if he did since we know sylar does not have that power (thankfully).

I know this sounds nitpicky..and the obvious answer is that it would be stupid to do that becasue it would ruin the episode....but it was referencd twice in the episode (as mentioned above) so it was something i was thinking about. To be honest, I guess I feel that this was an absoulutely awesome episode in an absoulutely awesome show and I am hoping there is a good explanation for it. Thanks
 
How about answering my questions. They're legitimate and easy things to spot, or do you just watch the show like: "OMG! Super powers! I better turn my brain off." You've read the comic, found out about the scar, so tell me the answer to my question rather than blindly defending something because I happen to have an opposing view.
but you don't have an opposing view. you're just here to say how much you don't like the show and show everyone how clever you think you are by nitpicking it apart. as for the question about the scar, it's already been answered in the thread. the writers have said we'll find out in season five.
 
well, maybe the scar was after the explosion, who knows? Peter could have had a run in with The Haitian?
well i thought that maybe he got the scar after meeting Nikki/Jessica and absorbed her ability. Jessica has the hero symbol tattooed on her shoulder, but Nikki doesn't. i thought maybe the injury/scar could be similar...but it doesn't look like it now.
 
Here's my theory about the scar, after becoming the exploding man, Peter wracked with guilt subconciously turns off his power. Much like Hiro couldn't use his power after he couldn't save Charlie, Hiro doesn't need the sword, it's just a mental block. The same thing happens to Peter.

As for why Peter didn't stop time when facing Sylar, I think he was just looking for a fight and has a lot of unresolved issues with Sylar.
 
Hmmm... I wonder if Sylar can't be "time-frozen." I'm not really sure how that would be possible, but in the preview for next week, it looks like Hiro freezes time and is about to kill him, but then Sylar apparently looks over at him. If this is true, then that would explain why Peter didn't just freeze time and waste his ass.

As for Peter's scar and why he needed to send Hiro back in time to save the world instead of just going himself, I'm not sure. It seemed like (until Sylar showed up) Peter was planning to go back with Hiro... maybe the idea was just that they wanted as many allies as they could have or something.
 
I cannot believe that we have a POPULAR network TV show about comic book superheroes and it's just as awesome as we've always dreamed of one being. I like the little things like the mention of a kid who killed his classmates because he sucked the oxygen in the environment. It's so ****ing X-Men. And obviously, that showdown at the end that we didn't see.

It's better than X-Men.
 
if i were peter, being weathered in battle and confident in my abilities, i would definitely want to face off with sylar, especially just after finding out that he has been impersonating his brother, who is now dead. i would get a lot more satisfaction from whooping his @$$ than freezing time and finishing him off.

and perhaps if he froze time, past hiro wouldn't be able to leave because he'd be frozen, so he wouldn't have time to enjoy the kill before unfolding time?

but, if you take in the emotional aspect, he just wants to kill him slowly, i think.
 
Best episode so far. The action was amazing and I can't believe how messed up the future could be. President Sylar was great. I can't wait to see how he uses the ice powers in the next episode. Hiro looks like he has it in him to be a true hero. The end is going to be interesting since its seems like its going to end up that way. Peter has a huge burden upon him and I hope he makes it through ok. I have a feeling Nathan has a encounter with Sylar. Sylar is one of my new role models.
 
Future Hiro is scary. He went slicing his way through those soliders like his name was wolverine.
 
About the scar: Maybe it's a choice, Peter has a great deal of control over his powers, maybe he allowed the scar to stay on his face? Like a reminder of something he did.
 
Some cool pics at NBC's site, especially this one:

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notice how this particular timeline ribbon is wrapped around a phone cord. hanging from the line is the title of Suresh's book. the lines mimic the RNA strand hero symbol.
 
Great episode! But I’m confused about one thing. How would killing Sylar lead to Peter not exploding?
Future Hiro probably believed that Sylar was the one that exploded, and wanted to kill him before that happened.

Everyone in the future world thinks that Sylar was the exploding man, and that that's how he died.
 
Awesome episode. It all played out nicely...A lot of action, and I knew there was something odd about Nathan, which later led up to the plot twist. Future Peter and Hiro were great in this episode, especially when teaming against the security guards. This is the second Peter/Sylar confrontation we get, and they still haven't fully fought one another. I would've liked seeing them do so last night, as it looked like it could've been epic. But, perhaps they're really going to save it for last.

Either way, looking forward to next week.
 
best episode yet.

i haven't even fully absorbed everything that happened yet, there was so much. i wish there was a rundown of the main points of the episode somewhere.

i can't believe this season is almost over, and it's already this exciting!
 
Awesome episode. It all played out nicely...A lot of action, and I knew there was something odd about Nathan, which later led up to the plot twist. Future Peter and Hiro were great in this episode, especially when teaming against the security guards. This is the second Peter/Sylar confrontation we get, and they still haven't fully fought one another. I would've liked seeing them do so last night, as it looked like it could've been epic. But, perhaps they're really going to save it for last.

Either way, looking forward to next week.

Actually it's the third Peter/Sylar confrontation, they first met during Save the Cheerleader. The producers have said they're building up to a very big confrontation between the two, most likely it'll be in the season finale.
 
i'd say the main points are:

Peter is the bomb, but everyone believes it was Sylar.

Sylar has killed Nathan and Candace. using Candace's ability, he is creating the illusion that he's Nathan/the president.


people with abilities are being rounded up, imprisoned, and/or killed, and some of those doing the rounding up are those with abilities (Parkman, the Haitian).

FutureHiro is labeled a terrorist, and has been trying to change the past to alter his present.

Bennett seems to be a leader of some underground group who is hiding people/families with abilities by giving them aliases; however, turns out that he's a bit in league with Parkman.

Sylar kills Claire and gains her ability.

Ando dies from the bomb (as does Micah and others).

Mohinder has been working for the "president", but still believes in the heroes. he allows Hiro to escape back to present time based on what he saw in a 9th wonder comic.

in the comic, Hiro stabs Sylar with his sword.

FutureHiro is killed by Parkman.
 
i'd say the main points are:

Peter is the bomb, but everyone believes it was Sylar.

Sylar has killed Nathan and Candace. using Candace's ability, he is creating the illusion that he's Nathan/the president.


people with abilities are being rounded up, imprisoned, and/or killed, and some of those doing the rounding up are those with abilities (Parkman, the Haitian).

FutureHiro is labeled a terrorist, and has been trying to change the past to alter his present.

Bennett seems to be a leader of some underground group who is hiding people/families with abilities by giving them aliases; however, turns out that he's a bit in league with Parkman.

Sylar kills Claire and gains her ability.

Ando dies from the bomb (as does Micah and others).

Mohinder has been working for the "president", but still believes in the heroes. he allows Hiro to escape back to present time based on what he saw in a 9th wonder comic.

in the comic, Hiro stabs Sylar with his sword.

FutureHiro is killed by Parkman.

right on, thanks... i remembered all that, more or less, but it's nice to be able to catch up.
 
I was dazzled by the dual performance of the actor who plays Hiro (dang, forgot his name). It was REALLY hard to say that Hiro and Future Hiro were played by the same person.
 
but you don't have an opposing view. you're just here to say how much you don't like the show and show everyone how clever you think you are by nitpicking it apart.
Not quite. I'm just pointing out that for a show that is a ratings monster, and everyone has such a high opinion of, (9.5 on TV.com, making is supposedly better than whole lot of shows I would take over this one) the writing needs a lot of work. There are inconsistencies and contradictions all over the place. Also considering it's meant to be full of twists and turns, there's very little surprise.

And season 5! Are you kidding me? And I thought Lost was bashed for dragging out mysteries too long. (And before you start getting overly defensive again, I understand why. It's fits in with the timeline. Which is an idea I like.)
how badly it sucks :heart:
Well, isn't this interesting. I point out what I like and didn't like about the episode and I'm a bitter fan of Lost. But Hippy here, with an oh so witty retort, bashes an entire show with one of the dumbest and most vague of attacks. Apparently he's not in the wrong, but I am.

Gotta love hypocrisy. :up:

We're done for this ep, argument is circular and I can't be bothered with it. See you next time, hope I have something good say about it.
 

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