Chapter 21 - "The Hard Part" - Discussion Thread 5/7/07

[Sentinel X]

Matt has easily become my least favorite charecter on he show, he used to be good but now hes annoying..especially whn he does that weird neck-jerking thing when reading people minds

 

[chris moore]

I can't believe Bennet is going to kill Molly - everything that made him who he is now is his love for Claire, so I dont think he's going to kill Molly. That is of course if he knows that the walker system is a little girl. Because there is no way he is going to be able to get Parkman to go along with a plan like that, and definitely not now Claire has shown up. No, the plan will simply be to rescue Molly.

Its amazing how many people are in on this "the plan is actually to blow up the city" game. Nathan is going to be a better man though - his mother doesnt know him as well as she thinks she does.

 

[Mysterio]

I think Nathan is going to die. He'll either sacrifice himself to be the hero that Peter wants him to be and in doing so save New York (or save the world), or he might be killed by Hiro. I still think the character in the 9th wonder comic book looks more like Nathan than Sylar.

 

[chamber-music]

I think Nathan is going to die. He'll either sacrifice himself to be the hero that Peter wants him to be and in doing so save New York (or save the world), or he might be killed by Hiro. I still think the character in the 9th wonder comic book looks more like Nathan than Sylar.

Yeah I get the feeling Nathans gonna die as well. Most the season they have been pointing to peter dieing but I think they are gonna have Nathan sacrifice himself for everyone.

Matt is kinda annoying. I which Claude would comeback.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Matt fell from grace a bit because of his role in the future for me, but even in the present, he is getting a bit annoying. All of the whining about how he just wants his normal life back is getting to me. Angst over realizing you're different is a staple of comic books, but for God's sake, you've gotta just get over it at some point.

I miss Claude, too. And not just because I have a serious man-crush on Christopher Eccleston. Well, mostly that, but I also want to learn more about Claude's connection to the Company and possibly Linderman's pre-Heroes heroes.

I think Nathan is going to die. He'll either sacrifice himself to be the hero that Peter wants him to be and in doing so save New York (or save the world), or he might be killed by Hiro. I still think the character in the 9th wonder comic book looks more like Nathan than Sylar.

If not for the raging stubble on the comic character, I'd agree. I could see Nathan sacrificing himself, but I could also see him betraying everybody. He's walked the moral line so far without coming down too heavily or for too long on either side of it. I was genuinely surprised when future-Nathan turned out to be Sylar because I thought it was totally in character for Nathan to do all of that stuff if he were pushed in the right ways over the intervening 5 years.

 

[Child-of-Light]

Matt has easily become my least favorite charecter on he show, he used to be good but now hes annoying..especially whn he does that weird neck-jerking thing when reading people minds

i know i never liked matt though

 

[Child-of-Light]

I think Nathan is going to die. He'll either sacrifice himself to be the hero that Peter wants him to be and in doing so save New York (or save the world), or he might be killed by Hiro. I still think the character in the 9th wonder comic book looks more like Nathan than Sylar.

yeah i think this would probably happen it would also prove nathan wronge becuase he always says i can fly how will that help

 

[squeekness]

If not for the raging stubble on the comic character, I'd agree. I could see Nathan sacrificing himself, but I could also see him betraying everybody. He's walked the moral line so far without coming down too heavily or for too long on either side of it. I was genuinely surprised when future-Nathan turned out to be Sylar because I thought it was totally in character for Nathan to do all of that stuff if he were pushed in the right ways over the intervening 5 years.

I felt the same way too about future-Nathan. I think he tends to let the opnions of others sway him in directions he might not go on his own.

 

[Child-of-Light]

I felt the same way too about future-Nathan. I think he tends to let the opnions of others sway him in directions he might not go on his own.

but remember that was sylar

 

[squeekness]

but remember that was sylar

Sylar doing an impression that was convincing why? Because it was three steps towards the real truth of the man he was imitating.

 

[Mysterio]

If not for the raging stubble on the comic character, I'd agree. I could see Nathan sacrificing himself, but I could also see him betraying everybody. He's walked the moral line so far without coming down too heavily or for too long on either side of it. I was genuinely surprised when future-Nathan turned out to be Sylar because I thought it was totally in character for Nathan to do all of that stuff if he were pushed in the right ways over the intervening 5 years.

you mean raging stubble like this?

i disagree about the moral line part. he did work with the feds in an effort to bring Linderman down and he kept it from his family. and when he's had to help, he has. Hiro, for example. he has his own moral compass, and he follows it pretty well.
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[Child-of-Light]

true...

 

[Child-of-Light]

you mean raging stubble like this?

i disagree about the moral line part. he did work with the feds in an effort to bring Linderman down and he kept it from his family. and when he's had to help, he has. Hiro, for example.​

good point...


nathan kinda looks like a young linderman but with brown hair i guess its the beard becuase i look again and dont see linderman now but either way he looks weird and not like nathan i wonder if the beard is suppose to mean he didnt win the election and didnt die perhaps for the final beucase he flys fast what if he flew up let go of peter then flew away???

 

[kane9321]

Hold up...couldnt " the company" just find sylar then have the haitan negate his powers...then someone just shoot sylar...game over

 

[Mysterio]

Why would the company want Sylar stopped? They want the bomb to go off. Why would they even want him anyway except to keep him away from Molly?

 

[ragdus]

Bennett isn't going to New York to kill Molly. He's going to destory the Walker System.

I will guarantee you he has no idea that what he only knows by name is in actuality a little girl.

Also, to whomever mentioned Syler was going after her so she must be more special than "simply" knowing where every single person with abilities is...

um, well just think about that for a sec.

 

[ragdus]

Why would the company want Sylar stopped? They want the bomb to go off. Why would they even want him anyway except to keep him away from Molly?

Because they think Ted is the bomb, not Sylar. Right now Sylar possesses ZERO nuclear abilities.

 

[Mysterio]

Yes, I know. So why would the company want Sylar stopped? They don't. They don't even know who the exploding man is going to be. No one does. All they want is for .07 percent of the population wiped out and their man put in office. They don't care about the means, but the end.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Um, the Company wants Sylar stopped because he's killing all of the 'mutants' and stealing their powers, which 1) jeopardizes all other mutants, including the Company's boy Nathan and other potential mutant agents or assets, and 2) is just a damn intriguing power that their scientists would probably love to decipher. HRG wanted Sylar in custody long before we knew anything about the threat of the bomb, remember?

 

[Mysterio]

i don't think the company cares about the welfare of "all other mutants." i do agree that they would want him out of the way if he became a threat to any of their plans, and i think they originally wanted him searched out to recruit him (like Eden, Candace, etc.). i don't think the company's goal was to ever stop Sylar. in fact, he could be the very thing they need without having New York blow up - a psycho supervillian with mutant abilities. again, they just care about the end, not the means.

 

[dabadguy5937]

the company doesnt want to kill sylar or they would have done it already when they had him caged up a primatech there whole thing is shady i dont think we've gotten to the bottom of what the company is really doing so who knows we'll see

 

[SHHSFW]

this is going to end with Peter getting ready to explode, Nathan walking up to him, hugging him and flying into the atmosphere. Nathan is killed, he's redeemed himself, city is saved. (it would be kinda cool if the explosion in the air blocked out the sun in the famous "eclipse" shape)

This whole season is really about the relationship between Peter and Nathan. That was the focus at the start, I almost guarantee that this will be the way it ends.

 

[Katsuro]

I still think New York has to explode. It's happened in the paintings, and the paintings have never been wrong.

 

[Webber]

Did Pete not already have Ted's powers?

 

[Fanticon]

Hiro not being able to do it...could have been explained without him even trying.
It was a lot of stupid build up. Frankly I'm starting to get tired of this last stretch of episodes (except 5 years...that episode rocked) because they're just not packing a punch...bottom line...everyone needs to meet, everyone needs to be on the same page and they just need to figure this out.
The scene at the end of this episode with peter finally absorbing ted's powers...it almost seemed like a dream...and next episode he wakes up and understands what must be done. Could be bogus.