Christ In Christmas

[Eggyman]

It's really sad that people are so much into crazy shopping. What, a simple small gift isn't enough? People forgot the meaning of the celebration
Now it's xmas instead of "christmas". What a crap.

I'm guilty of saying xmas -- only when typing though

So sorry

 

[Alina]

I'm guilty of saying xmas -- only when typing though

So sorry

It's ok, man, I wasn't blaming you of anything, really. It's this fashion now. That's what I find annoying.

 

[Eggyman]

It's ok, man, I wasn't blaming you of anything, really. It's this fashion now. That's what I find annoying.

I agree about the gift buying thing though. It's nice to buy someone a gift to show them you care, but it's bad that that seems like the ONLY thing 'Christmas' is about.

 

[Alina]

Well, that's the thing now. The real meaning is gone, because many people don't believe in God anymore and are not interested in this aspect, so they concentrate on other things.

 

[Alina]

By the way, this shopping pisses me off real bad. When I see how many food they buy for only 3 days...It's like a big famine is coming fast.

 

[GoogleMe94]

besides some pretty inane posts which obviously come with such a "good" thread, i applaud the OP for stateing what Christmas is REALLY about. if some ppl only knew....anyway, im just so SICK of going into stores and places and hearing the same old secular music over and over AND OVER AND OVER. sorry, but as nice and cute as it may seem, frosty the snowman, rudolph, even all that santa crap (not the real Saint Nicholas, but the modern commercialized one that everyone praises) is not at all what Christmas is about, its just candy coated commercial crap. so sick of it. if i have to hear paul Mcartney sing "we're siiimply, HAAAVIN, a wonderful Christmas time!" again, i will seriously smash the sound system at whereever im at at the moment. i feel the spirit of Christmas more when i come home and put on EWTN at my house (for those of you who dont know, its the Catholic channel, lol) then i do outside of it. sad, buit true.

 

[GoogleMe94]

By the way, this shopping pisses me off real bad. When I see how many food they buy for only 3 days...It's like a big famine is coming fast.

my mom already did that, lol. we thought we were gonna have like 30 ppl at this Chistmas party last week, but because we had this bad ice/snow storm, we had only 15 ppl come, and we bought WAY too much food and stuff. i told her not to go crazy, but she did anyway, now what do we do with like 4 different cakes? actually......*runs to get some*

 

[Dope Nose]

No one is being attacked C. Lee

exactly what I was thinking.

 

[Alina]

my mom already did that, lol. we thought we were gonna have like 30 ppl at this Chistmas party last week, but because we had this bad ice/snow storm, we had only 15 ppl come, and we bought WAY too much food and stuff. i told her not to go crazy, but she did anyway, now what do we do with like 4 different cakes? actually......*runs to get some*

4 cakes? Eat them! Don't waste the food.

 

[Memphis Slim]

I studied history as well. But even if you're right, the fact is that the christmas celebration was dated on the 25th of december, in order to overshadow Mithra's celebration.

And it did.

Christmas
Come, Celebrate Christ


by Hank Hanegraaff
[SIZE=+1]E[/SIZE]ach year as the Christmas season approaches, people from all over North America call the Bible Answer Man broadcast asking the same question: Should Christians participate in celebrating Christmas?
Many fear that because Christmas is celebrated on December 25 they might inadvertently be commemorating the birthday of a pagan Roman god.
Nothing could be further from the truth. While we do not know the exact date that Christ was born, we do know why the early Christian church chose to celebrate Christmas on December 25. The church was not Christianizing a pagan festival, but was establishing the celebration of the birth of Christ as a rival celebration.
Today the world has all but forgotten about the pagan gods of Rome. But at least a billion people today consider themselves to be followers of Jesus Christ and celebrate that reality every Christmas. Tragically, in a post-Christian America, multitudes are once again using Christmas to worship a pagan god-a god called commercialism. To focus our attention on the real reason for the season I've developed the acronym
C-H-R-I-S-T-M-A-S.

Now most people say...Mithra??? Who is that? Did he fight Godzilla??

 

[Moviefan2k4]

Here's my thoughts on the real meaning of Christmas...

I remember celebrating Christmas as a child, with friends and family. Opening presents, singing Christmas carols, watching TV specials...but my favorite moment was when we would see "A Charlie Brown Christmas", and Linus van Pelt takes the stage, for the greatest story ever told...

"And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed. (And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.) And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city. And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem (because he was of the house and lineage of David), to be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.

And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered. And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn. And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night. And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.

And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger. And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying, "Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men".

And it came to pass, as the angels were gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds said one to another, "Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to pass, which the Lord hath made known unto us". And they came with haste, and found Mary, and Joseph, and the babe lying in a manger.

And when they had seen it, they made known abroad the saying which was told them concerning this child. And all they that heard it wondered at those things which were told them by the shepherds. But Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart. And the shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things that they had heard and seen, as it was told unto them." ~Luke 2:1-20, KJV~

Nowadays, Christmas has become far more commercialized, and it's truly a shame. Two or three years ago, there was a so-called "War on Christmas", where businesses were forbidden to mention anything Christian at all. My uncle went to a local retailer, purchasing Christmas presents. My uncle looked at the cashier and said, "Merry Christmas". the woman simply stared back with "Happy Holidays". My uncle returned his wallet to his pocket, left the merchandise on the conveyor belt, and walked out. A few customers saw the incident, and even clapped for him. My family was proud.

The following year, the Target company apparently had some sort of fiasco with this "war", and now proudly proclaims "Merry Christmas" on all their ads. I smile when I see that; it's one of many signs that people are still standing for the season's true purpose.

 

[bell110]

I love Christmas except the whole buying-presents-for-people thing. I agree, Christmas has become too commercialized. You know what would be fun, creating a new Christmas during the approximate date Jesus was actually born, as THE religious celebration. This could be enacted by the pope, and then make it's way to all the other churches in the world. I think it would be great that there would be a grand secret conspiracy that all the Christians moved the date of Christmas. Alas, it wouldn't last too long, corporations would find out eventually and commericalize the hell out of New Christmas.

 

[bell110]

Nowadays, Christmas has become far more commercialized, and it's truly a shame. Two or three years ago, there was a so-called "War on Christmas", where businesses were forbidden to mention anything Christian at all. My uncle went to a local retailer, purchasing Christmas presents. My uncle looked at the cashier and said, "Merry Christmas". the woman simply stared back with "Happy Holidays". My uncle returned his wallet to his pocket, left the merchandise on the conveyor belt, and walked out. A few customers saw the incident, and even clapped for him. My family was proud.

The following year, the Target company apparently had some sort of fiasco with this "war", and now proudly proclaims "Merry Christmas" on all their ads. I smile when I see that; it's one of many signs that people are still standing for the season's true purpose.

Ah, Bill O'Reilly' War on Christmas. I haven't been watching Billo alot lately, is he still fighting his war? Like the war on drug and the war on terror, the war on Christmas will never be won. Christmas will always be here no matter how much Billo fights.

Unfortunately, Target isn't standing up for the seasons true purpose by having Merry Christmas on their ads, they are just doing it so people won't boycott their store. They worship the All Mighty Dollar, not Jesus.

 

[Moviefan2k4]

Unfortunately, Target isn't standing up for the seasons true purpose by having Merry Christmas on their ads, they are just doing it so people won't boycott their store. They worship the All Mighty Dollar, not Jesus

God can still use that to spread His message to people, though.

 

[bell110]

God can still use that to spread His message to people, though.

Target's ads for 2008:

Jesus is our Lord and Savior

Socks 50% Off

Expires 12/30/08​

 

[Corinthian™]

you all people forget what Christmas is all about


YULE!

 

[Dope Nose]

Unfortunately, Target isn't standing up for the seasons true purpose by having Merry Christmas on their ads, they are just doing it so people won't boycott their store. They worship the All Mighty Dollar, not Jesus.

I'd love to hear what you think this season's "true purpose" is given both Kwanzaa and Hanukkah are also being celebrated.

 

[bell110]

I'd love to hear what you think this season's "true purpose" is given both Kwanzaa and Hanukkah are also being celebrated.

Me personally? That's kind of a multi-faceted question.

I don't care about Hanukkah or Kwanzaa. So the "true purpose" for people that do are based on their own faith and believe system.

Being that this tread is about Christmas, I'm taking the "true purpose" of the season in the Christian perspective. Which is the celebrations of Jesus' birth.

The "true purpose" of the season for Target and other retail chains is making as much profit as possible before the end of the year.

Now, I can't speak for MovieFan, who is the person that I was quoting originally, but I have a feeling he might be a Faithful Christian, so I'm assuming it's the whole Jesus being born thing.

But, me personally, the "true purpose" is just having a good time with friends and family, getting two paid days off from work with a seriously light workload the rest of the week, and getting a bonus check. Oh, and presents.

 

[BBT]

 

[The Chairman]

I love Christmas. Just the thrill of being around my family and giving and receiving presents is more than enough for me. I'm Christian myself, but I do not mind the commercial aspects of the holidays at all, or the fact that it's not seen as a religious holiday. I think the universal aspect that Christmas is seen as in these days makes the message of the holiday all the more evident, that no matter what you believe in, we could all put aside our differences and enjoy such a wonderful occasion. I don't think Jesus would care if non-Christians would want to partake in engaging in an event that encapsulated his message.

Merry Christmas and God Bless All Of You, Regardless Of Your Religious Background.

 

[Memphis Slim]

Christmas is a religious holiday. That's why it started in the first place. His "name" is the name of the holiday. CHRIST (messiah) MAS (has come). But the appeal of it is so strong...so undeniable....that it effects secular society as well. Tell me another celebration that has grips so many people in one way or another. People give to others more. People put away differences more. Families get together. The poor are thought about more. Now granted, we should be this way year round. But Christmas brings it out of just about everyone. Expectations for happiness is high. Which makes tragedy at this time of year even deeper to bear.

Name a celebration that has more songs (religious or secular). Hymns and pop music. Even Rap.......(Christmas in Hollis a classic ). So I don't get bent about commercialism because I know what it's really about. and I know why the appeal is so world-wide....so broad. It's inviting. It's cherished. And even if you're not a Christian, you can still participate.


Christ is the reason for the season.

 

[Memphis Slim]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alina
It's really sad that people are so much into crazy shopping. What, a simple small gift isn't enough? People forgot the meaning of the celebration
Now it's xmas instead of "christmas". What a crap.

Eggy Man: I'm guilty of saying xmas -- only when typing though

So sorry

Fear not O' Eggy one.....

Xmas has a deeper origin.

This abbreviation for Christams is of Greek origin. the word Christ in Greek is "Xristos". during the 16th century, Europeans began using the the first initial od Christ's name, "X" in place of the word Christ in Christmas as a shorthand form of the word. Although the early Christians understood the X stood for Christ's name, later Christians who did not understand the Greek language mistook Xmas as a sign of disrespect.

AND KNOWING IS HALF THE BATTLE!

 

[The Chairman]

Christmas is a religious holiday. That's why it started in the first place. His "name" is the name of the holiday. CHRIST (messiah) MAS (has come). But the appeal of it is so strong...so undeniable....that it effects secular society as well. Tell me another celebration that has grips so many people in one way or another. People give to others more. People put away differences more. Families get together. The poor are thought about more. Now granted, we should be this way year round. But Christmas brings it out of just about everyone. Expectations for happiness is high. Which makes tragedy at this time of year even deeper to bear.

Name a celebration that has more songs (religious or secular). Hymns and pop music. Even Rap.......(Christmas in Hollis a classic ). So I don't get bent about commercialism because I know what it's really about. and I know why the appeal is so world-wide....so broad. It's inviting. It's cherished. And even if you're not a Christian, you can still participate.


Christ is the reason for the season.

We had a Christmas party in school today. I played it and everyone went wild. One of my favorite Christmas songs. The best secular Christmas song is Lennon's "Happy X-Mas (War Is Over)." My personal favorite traditional song is Sinatra's 1991 rendition of "Silent Night."

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[SuperFerret]

Christmas is a religious holiday. That's why it started in the first place. His "name" is the name of the holiday. CHRIST (messiah) MAS (has come). But the appeal of it is so strong...so undeniable....that it effects secular society as well. Tell me another celebration that has grips so many people in one way or another. People give to others more. People put away differences more. Families get together. The poor are thought about more. Now granted, we should be this way year round. But Christmas brings it out of just about everyone. Expectations for happiness is high. Which makes tragedy at this time of year even deeper to bear.

Name a celebration that has more songs (religious or secular). Hymns and pop music. Even Rap.......(Christmas in Hollis a classic ). So I don't get bent about commercialism because I know what it's really about. and I know why the appeal is so world-wide....so broad. It's inviting. It's cherished. And even if you're not a Christian, you can still participate.


Christ is the reason for the season.

I doubt that anyone would argue that it's not a religious holiday, but you don't need to be religious to celebrate it.

 

[Memphis Slim]

We had a Christmas party in school today. I played it and everyone went wild. One of my favorite Christmas songs. The best secular Christmas song is Lennon's "Happy X-Mas (War Is Over)." My personal favorite traditional song is Sinatra's 1991 rendition of "Silent Night."

Suhweeet!!!! You played "Chistmas in Hollis"!!!
http://music.aol.com/video/christmas-in-hollis/run-dmc/1103318