Christopher Nolan & his love for the broken neck

[jb007]

What gives with broken necks in Nolan's last 2 films. TDR & MOS both have multiple people having their necks snapped.

Odd.

Thoughts?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Snyder directed Man of Steel.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Because Snyder totally didn't direct Man Of Steel.

 

[J.Howlett]

Christ, is this where we are in terms of film discussion on the net? If so, maybe it's time to retire.

Sheesh....

 

[Liam_H]

And Nolan was against it, Goyer and Snyder wanted it.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^I was going to mention that Nolan was against Superman killing Zod but I didn't feel like it because I had to address the fact that this person didn't know who directed the film he made a thread about. It's right there at the beginning of the ****ing credits people!

 

[chamber-music]

Nolan was against the broken neck idea. Nolan wanted Zod to get sucked into the Phantom Zone.

If anything the title should be what is with Goyer and his love for broken necks

 

[NosfeRomas]

So props to Snyder and Goyer for delivering probably the best Superman moment in quite a while.

 

[BH/HHH]

Nolan wasn't against it, he was initiall cause he didn't think they could make it work but when Goyer explained it to him he was on board. This is typical of the internet and the way the story was reported.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Either way Nolan didn't originate the idea.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Nolan wasn't very fond of it either way.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

Zod's death should have been more like Bizarro's death and not a gruesome neck snap.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

For the record, I don't care that Nolan didn't originally like it. If you look at my old posts I'm sure you will find that I didn't originally like the idea of Superman killing. Snyder and Goyer convinced me.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

I'm surprised how well that scene turned out. A really powerful moment and Cavill's facial expressions really sell it.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm surprised how well that scene turned out. A really powerful moment and Cavill's facial expressions really sell it.

One of my favorite scenes in the film. I don't want him to kill anymore villains though.

 

[BH/HHH]

I'm surprised how well that scene turned out. A really powerful moment and Cavill's facial expressions really sell it.

Definitely I loved it

Either way Nolan didn't originate the idea.

Oh yeah it was Goyer and Snyder but as I said Nolan was only against it before Goyer explained to him how it worked etc. Also my dig at the internet was not at people on here it was a dig at the websites that reported that story. They used a headline like “Nolan was against the ending of Man of Steel” when that was only half true and we had to read the full article to get real gist of what that meant. Websites are doing that a lot more these days.

One of my favorite scenes in the film. I don't want him to kill anymore villains though.

Me either, especially as it could get abit repetitive. I really don't think he'll be put in that situation again in future films.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Yeah, I really don't want him to kill or to have the villain die by accident some how. It's becoming too much of a cliche. One of the reasons why I was so glad Dr. Connors/The Lizard didn't die in TASM.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Definitely I loved it



Oh yeah it was Goyer and Snyder but as I said Nolan was only against it before Goyer explained to him how it worked etc. Also my dig at the internet was not at people on here it was a dig at the websites that reported that story. They used a headline like “Nolan was against the ending of Man of Steel” when that was only half true and we had to read the full article to get real gist of what that meant. Websites are doing that a lot more these days.



Me either, especially as it could get abit repetitive. I really don't think he'll be put in that situation again in future films.

I got you on the websites false headline deal.

And it wouldn't just be repeatitive to me, it would turn Superman into a crazied blood thirsty killer.

 

[BH/HHH]

Yeah, I really don't want him to kill or to have the villain die by accident some how. It's becoming too much of a cliche. One of the reasons why I was so glad Dr. Connors/The Lizard didn't die in TASM.

Must admit that was a nice surprise.

Its funny cause when u look back so many villains have died.

Spider-man 1-3: Green Goblin, Dr Octupus, Harry Osbourne (although he did become good again), Venom
Superman 2 & 4: Zod, Ursa & Non, Nucleur Man
Man of Steel: Zod, other Kryptonians
Batman, Batman Returns, Batman Forever, Batman & Robin: the Joker, The Penguin, Max Shreck, Two-Face, Bane
The Dark Knight Trilogy: Ra's All Ghul, Harvey Dent (Two-Face), Bane, Talia
Green Lantern: Hector Hammond, Parallax

I can't even be bothered to count the deaths in the X-Men films lol

And so many more...

 

[BH/HHH]

I got you on the websites false headline deal.

And it wouldn't just be repeatitive to me, it would turn Superman into a crazied blood thirsty killer.

Oh yeah I thought you meant that anyway but I also wanted to add reptitiveness cause its kind of becoming a cliche as I posted above.

 

[KappeiJin]

Zod's death should have been more like Bizarro's death and not a gruesome neck snap.

I agree. If you watch that scene, Supes had the chance to put his hand on Zod's eyes to stop his heat vision. It didn't that just for a script reason.

 

[KappeiJin]

Man of Steel: Zod, other Kryptonians

Not sure other Kryptonians died. They went in a black hole. That could mean a gimmick for a sequel.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I never minded the villain dying at the end in Superhero films because Superhero films are just action films for the most part. Villains dying at the end of action movies is just something that has always happened. It only bothers me if I don't like the way it's done.

 

[TruerToTheCore]

I agree. If you watch that scene, Supes had the chance to put his hand on Zod's eyes to stop his heat vision. It didn't that just for a script reason.

Obviously there would have been more ways to solve this without killing. But they wanted it that way and couldn't write a scene were there was indeed no other choice than killing Zod.

Or this Superman is just dumb. I suppose so.

 

[BH/HHH]

I never minded the villain dying at the end in Superhero films because Superhero films are just action films for the most part. Villains dying at the end of action movies is just something that has always happened. It only bothers me if I don't like the way it's done.

Well I thought it worked in Man of Steel very well but sometimes you can see they just kill the villain for the sake of it in some of these movies. Most notably the Burton/Schumacher Batman films there's no reason Joker, Penguin and Two-Face couldn't have been taken to Arkham. I just think if it keeps on happening it becomes cliche.

Not sure other Kryptonians died. They went in a black hole. That could mean a gimmick for a sequel.

Well yeah but some of them must have died, you can't smash a ship into another and not have casualties. Also didn't Lois/Jor El kill a few in the escape from Black Zero scenes?