Days of Future Past Classic Professor X: The Patrick Stewart Thread

And that is why me and several others were stating that we felt that the Patric Stewart cover was generally coming off and much more "Xavier" than the McAvoy version.
I still don't understand how he's supposed to look "more Xavier". The concept itself is ludicrous. Young Xavier doesn't wear an uniform, doesn't have any "visual" power, and people were even complaining that he was doing the "hand touching the temple" gesture. Really, how was he supposed to be shown in the cover? Saying he's not "Xavier enough" is unfair. I was expecting young Charles to be in a wheelchair, but there must have been an internal decision to show him standing. Surely there's an explanation in the film. Lack of wheelchair aside, the cover turned out exactly how I expected for young Charles. If people have different ideas of how he could have looked more "iconic" I really would like to know. So just because young Magneto wears an uniform he's automatically "iconic"? It's quite clear that Erik has already completed his transformation into Magneto, while Charles is still going through the process of turning into Professor X. The cover represents this. He has to be different from Patrick's Prof. X

All in all saying he's "less Xavier" than Patrick's version easily turns into "this actor isn't competent enough to portray the character". Unfortunately this has been going on since First Class. People still don't understand the concept of a character changing and going from A to Z in terms of development, it seems.
 
nobody has mentioned the actors capabilities at all. It is true that he doesnt look like Xavier (bald and in a wheelchair) there really isnt anything to have an issue with.
 
People are being comic biased when they say mcavoy doesn't look like iconic xavier, and that's pretty normal from comic fans, but still mcavoy is likely gonna be the xavier holding up this film the most so I say to everyone chill the **** out
 
I still don't understand how he's supposed to look "more Xavier". The concept itself is ludicrous. Young Xavier doesn't wear an uniform, doesn't have any "visual" power, and people were even complaining that he was doing the "hand touching the temple" gesture. Really, how was he supposed to be shown in the cover? Saying he's not "Xavier enough" is unfair. I was expecting young Charles to be in a wheelchair, but there must have been an internal decision to show him standing. Surely there's an explanation in the film. Lack of wheelchair aside, the cover turned out exactly how I expected for young Charles. If people have different ideas of how he could have looked more "iconic" I really would like to know. So just because young Magneto wears an uniform he's automatically "iconic"? It's quite clear that Erik has already completed his transformation into Magneto, while Charles is still going through the process of turning into Professor X. The cover represents this. He has to be different from Patrick's Prof. X

Definitions:
i·con·ic
1.
of, relating to, or of the nature of an icon.


i·con
2.
a person or thing regarded as a representative symbol of something.


It has long been canon in the comics that Charles Xavier lost his hair at a, relatively speaking, very young age. By the time he graduated High School, if I recall correctly. There was also a direct correlation between his hair loss and his developing mutant power. Even in real life, many of the causes of premature baldness are caused by, or are related to some form of genetic mutation. As the founder and mentor of the X-men, Charles Xavier was a symbol and icon of the middle ground for Mutants. His mutation granted him great telepathic power with plenty of positive benefits, as well as being a power that was easily kept hidden at his discretion, but also came with a relatively small but distinguishing physical trait: premature baldness; and while this trait generally may not have caused any red flags or label him a mutant compared to certain others, it's still a physically distinguishing feature that is generally not preferred from an aesthetic perspective. How you could say that's not iconic, I don't know. To me, he has always been a very good embodiment of the "average" or middle ground mutant, because on top of the baldness, the level of telepathic power he possess came as both a great gift and a curse. Being able to enter the minds of so many other living beings brought a perspective most other humans and mutants would never have. He was able to connect and share in the feelings and burdens of all those whos' minds he entered, and thus his principles and character were shaped around his experiences.

Ultimately, yes, there's a lot more to Charles Xavier than his look, however, his baldness has always been a part of who he is from a young age, and certainly qualifies and part of what makes him iconic as the founder and mentor(and to a degree, at times their leader) of the X-men. Does he have to be bald to personify Xavier, or for me to enjoy McAvoy's performance? Of course not! I enjoyed McAvoy in First Class, and I'll likely enjoy him even more in DOFP, but that doesn't change the fact that not being bald(and having a head full of hair in fact, for crying out loud) makes him that much less iconic in appearances only.

In regards to the wheelchair, both in the comics and the movie, that was always something that happened to him. He wasn't born a cripple, he became one as a result of unfortunate and tragic incidents. That being the case, a younger Charles still walking is perfectly fine with me, in a general sense, though still not necessarily helping to add to his iconicness. The only other thing I would say about it, in regards to the cover, is that I still found it a little odd, simply because of how we last saw him at the end of First Class, but even if him standing is confusing to the many who see the cover, that's not necessarily a bad thing, just a potential spoiler that leaves one with the question of how he's walking again.


All in all saying he's "less Xavier" than Patrick's version easily turns into "this actor isn't competent enough to portray the character". Unfortunately this has been going on since First Class. People still don't understand the concept of a character changing and going from A to Z in terms of development, it seems.

Glad that you clarified that "less Xavier" could "easily turn into" the whole insult to the actor mentality, and that it wasn't inherently linked with it, because I don't think it's fair to assume anyone's insulting or criticizing the actor's abilities or performance when we're talking in the context of a, for the most part, purely aesthetical design concept with these magazine covers. And as I said in my above comments, I've been perfectly content with McAvoy as Young Xavier so far, and I anticipate that I'll enjoy him in the upcoming film even more.
 
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A common theme over the last 20 or so years. :up:
 
Yeah, and now Marvel is trying to make us buy that Xavier was some kind of saint who everyone loved (including the Avengers) and that Cyclop's is the second coming of Hitler for killing him in self-defense. Basically ignoring their own recent characterization of him.
 
in x men movies who takes care of xavier and helps him carry out you know daily life activities ?
 
Patrick Stewart was mistakenly outed as gay by the British newspaper The Guardian on Monday in a commentary addressing Ellen Page's coming out – but the Star Trek captain handled the snafu by taking to Twitter with warp speed and great humor.

"But @guardian I have, like, five or even SEVEN hetero friends and we totally drink beer and eat lots of chicken wings!" Stewart Tweeted.

The 73-year-old X-Men actor – who wed girlfriend Sunny Ozell in September in a ceremony officiated by close pal Ian McKellen – then joked: "Well, @guardian it makes for a nice change...at least I didn't wake up to the internet telling me I was dead again."

His final terrific Tweet? "Silly @guardian. You can't catch gay by hanging out with #LGBT people," he wrote, likely alluding to his deep friendship with McKellen, 74, who is openly gay.



Stewart's Tweets were in response to The Guardian story that originally stated, "Some gay people, such as Sir Patrick Stewart, think Page's coming out speech is newsworthy."

The paper later ran a correction that said, "This should have read 'Some people, such as Sir Patrick Stewart, think Page's coming out speech is newsworthy.' "

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I think that Xavier looks like he is reacting to someones death...
..looking in the air...
Storm
maybe?
 
Patrick is so cheeky in his tweets lately. Love that the guardian is making a big deal out of nothing....lol
 

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