Gotham Commissioner James Gordon Origins Series

[JP]

This is sounding better and better.

 

[flickchick85]

Love the Bullock casting.

 

[DrMylesOBoogie]

This show is shaping up icely but I feel ultimately it will get frustrating. If it's well executed it will only have fans dreaming of characters and a universe we can't have. A fully realized Batman show where he interacts with Nightwing, Catwoman and the rest of the bat family. Smallville was infuriating with the amount of teasing and winking to the future.

 

[HighFivingMF]

This show is shaping up icely

 

[Lobo]

Just read up on all the castings. Now, I'm really excited.

 

[SuperBatman]

This Show IMO just gets better with all the casting news that came out.

 

[Gee]

Someone's Reading Gotham Central

And Batman: Year One, Batman: Earth One, The Long Halloween + Dark Victory. Great stories with Gordon (haven't read Earth One yet though).

 

[The Guard]

I'm so excited to see Bullock as a regular, developing character it's not funny.

 

[DarthDorranceBane]

So the Bruce Wayne in this TV series will stay in Gotham all throughout his pre-vigilante years until he became Batman? Lame.

 

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

So the Bruce Wayne in this TV series will stay in Gotham all throughout his pre-vigilante years until he became Batman?

No.

 

[Sawyer]

Assumptions are fun, huh?

 

[Prison Mike]

You know what they say about people who assume...

 

[godisawesome]

All Fox would have to do to justify Bruce leaving Gotham and us following him would be to make sure he has a strong supporting cast for that plot-arc, like Alfred following him or David Cain training him.

It sounds like the tone of this show is supposed to be much more Arrow then Smallville, and since both those shows can handle barely connected storylines, I don't see why this show couldn't.

 

[Maximus One]

Holy ****!! Donal Logue is playing Bullock?!?!?

 

[Rodrigo90]

I'm sure Clayface would make for an interesting villain in this.

 

[DarthDorranceBane]

So the Bruce Wayne in this TV series will stay in Gotham all throughout his pre-vigilante years until he became Batman? Lame.

No.

Assumptions are fun, huh?

Any links to reports about this? I'm kind of basing my assumptions on a previous adapted-for-TV comic book superhero origins, Smallville, and in that I was hoping that it will end with Clark leaving Smallville and start touring the world, but we know what happened, so I'm kind of expecting the same that they will do that here.

 

[godisawesome]

Welllllllll....

Smallville did make the jump from the town Smallville to Metropolis, and had one or two arcs set abroad even though they were pretty much contractually obligated to be unimaginative on most of that show.

And Arrow, which does have the advantage of being a more contemporary example, and one that has a achieved greater acclaim and a firm hold on the all important teenager to thirty-something demographic for a B-List character on a tween-girl network, spends a great deal of its screen time on an island, explicitly using the island as the crucible through which most of the main characters's maturity is reached. And considering the island subplot often eclipses the modern day segments, I'd say Fox has a good precedent for getting Bruce out of Gotham for a season or two.

This isn't like that young Bruce Wayne series they were trying to get made years ago, the one that became Smallville, this is a new series created in a world after Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy, one that heavily featured a world traveling storyline. And if the CW can manage some traveling on it budget for Green Arrow, I think Fox can afford to get Bruce so,e ninja training in Japan or time under Ducard in France.

 

[Rodrigo90]

I couldn't care less what Bruce Wayne does in this. Sure, he may play a backseat role for a while, but he's completely unnecessary in this thing.

I don't get so many complaints from people who think the show will be **** because Batman isn't the main character in a show clearly focused on a young Jim Gordon. How dumb.

 

[TheOneWhoKnocks]

Any links to reports about this? I'm kind of basing my assumptions on a previous adapted-for-TV comic book superhero origins, Smallville, and in that I was hoping that it will end with Clark leaving Smallville and start touring the world, but we know what happened, so I'm kind of expecting the same that they will do that here.

To clarify, I didn't say "no" meaning "Bruce will travel." I mean "no" to saying "Bruce will stay in Gotham" through the whole series as though we already know that to be true.

There are no reports either way. It's way too early to tell. They haven't even shot the pilot and they probably just set up their writer's room. Bruce Wayne is 12 years old at the time of the pilot, and I don't think a 12 year old is going to be jet-setting across the globe. Maybe he needs to be at least a few years older. Within the concept of the show, that's at least a few seasons. I don't get why anyone here would assume what's going to happen that far ahead.

The assumption you've made and the reasoning behind it is kind of like saying "so Barry Allen in the Flash series will have been on an island for five years because that's what happened on Arrow? Lame." This show is not Smallville. It's made by different people, on a different network, with a different audience. Batman does not have the same origin story as Superman. The to-be-superhero isn't even the main character here; it's Jim Gordon.

 

[flickchick85]

I don't care if we ever see Bruce training on this show. It's not about him. It's pitched as a show about Jim Gordon, who is a great character in his own right, as well as the city he chooses to serve and protect that cultivates such an extreme culture of sociopaths, psychopaths and disturbed, broken souls. Batman is just one of many of those, and sure, he'll become a very prominent one in Gordon's life much later in this show's timeline, but frankly, it's just not his show, so I don't need to see his story. Again.

 

[Lencho01]

Isn't Bruce just supposed to be 12 anyway? I think he'd still be in school even if he wasn't in Gotham.

 

[GregComicFan]

So has it been confirmed that all the Batman villains are appearing in this? I know they cast someone as Oswald Cobblepot (Penguin). I read another article a while back stating that Batman's rogues would all be appearing.

If that's true, then that certainly changes things for Batman lore... in regards to Batman's age and all his rogues' ages.

So if Gordon is going to face Penguin, Joker, Riddler, etc. during this show, then that means Bruce is 11 years old and all his future-villains are adults. That means that when he becomes Batman, all his villains are much older than him.

Not a big deal, doesn't really matter.

But it's interesting that this show may make it that Batman will be 20-something, but Penguin, Joker, Riddler, etc. are all 40 years old + (possibly even older too).

 

[HighFivingMF]

Penguin's, like, always older than Bruce. Joker's age doesn't matter. Same with Riddler.

The only ones I think should be reasonably close to Bruce's age are Selina and Harvey.

 

[Two-Face]

I couldn't care less what Bruce Wayne does in this. Sure, he may play a backseat role for a while, but he's completely unnecessary in this thing.

I don't get so many complaints from people who think the show will be **** because Batman isn't the main character in a show clearly focused on a young Jim Gordon. How dumb.

Well maybe beacause this is first time we gonna get a live-action Bruce Wayne and co since the 60s on TV. There was BW TV series that didn't get green lighted by WB so.

 

[godisawesome]

So has it been confirmed that all the Batman villains are appearing in this? I know they cast someone as Oswald Cobblepot (Penguin). I read another article a while back stating that Batman's rogues would all be appearing.

If that's true, then that certainly changes things for Batman lore... in regards to Batman's age and all his rogues' ages.

So if Gordon is going to face Penguin, Joker, Riddler, etc. during this show, then that means Bruce is 11 years old and all his future-villains are adults. That means that when he becomes Batman, all his villains are much older than him.

Not a big deal, doesn't really matter.

But it's interesting that this show may make it that Batman will be 20-something, but Penguin, Joker, Riddler, etc. are all 40 years old + (possibly even older too).

Penguin, Hugo Strange, and even the Joker are all generally portrayed as a significant number of years older than Bruce. And I hope part of the focus and fun of the show is portraying the supporting characters evolving alongside Gordon and Bruce. Penguin's got a pretty clear origin coming up with his own boss to eventually surpass, so I presume we'll see similar arcs set up for our other characters. Alfred's profile seems to suggest he'll transition from badass ex-marine to the more traditional interpretation.

If they've got the ambition I think they do, they could milk a lot of audience attention and approval by having mini-arcs focus on different Bat-rogues through out the seasons. Imagine watching a show like this:

-Season One villain Oswald Cobblepott slowly plays rival against rival until he finally ends the season as a major player in Gotham's underworld, possibly even after having a beer bottle shoved into his eye socket. We see him as a fallen foil to the Wayne family and the first major crook Gordon can't take down.
-Season Two character Selina Kyle is a young orphan girl who Leslie Thompkins, a friend of Bruce Wayne and love-interest to Alfred, takes under her wing for a short time. Her parents killed under mysterious circumstances, she gives us a few of how desperate the situation is for orphans not born to blue-bloods as she begins an impressive career as a pickpocket and scam artist.
-Season Three's Edward Nashton is the same age as Bruce, just as smart, but a narcissistic mess who comes under Bullock's investigation for extorting money from his peers. After being caught in an infuriating manner by Bullock, Nashton gets himself free and begins a career as Edward Nygma, the Riddler...

See what I mean? You have a serious amount of potential with Gotham, and his rogues gallery includes enough big name icons with known origins to milk for ratings surge after ratings surge.