"Gotham" the TV Series coming to Fox -- how will effect the new Batman?

Discussion in 'Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice' started by Visiting Arkham, Sep 24, 2013.

  1. Visiting Arkham

    Visiting Arkham Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2007
    Messages:
    274
    Likes Received:
    0
    http://www.deadline.com/2013/09/com...-drama/#utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    Wow, so is DC getting into the "Agents of SHIELD" business? Will this Gordon and Gotham relate to the new Batman, or is it going to be a separate entity like Smallville?
     
    #1
  2. TheFlamingCoco

    TheFlamingCoco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2013
    Messages:
    10,461
    Likes Received:
    2
    ^ Wow, that might be better than the reboot. :)
     
    #2
  3. Dk1201

    Dk1201 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2011
    Messages:
    868
    Likes Received:
    0
    I am shocked
     
    #3
  4. shauner111

    shauner111 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2011
    Messages:
    16,108
    Likes Received:
    4
    Yeah me too. Im thinking it's loose continuity. Could they link it with Affleck? Sure. But they don't have to.

    I just don't see Arrow/Flash + this new Gordon based Gotham show related to the film world. Much like Smallville wasn't.

    I doubt it's in direct continuity with the Nolan-verse. The best thing they can do is act like it's its own thing but could act like this new show could be the prequel to any Bat universe out there.
     
    #4
  5. Dk1201

    Dk1201 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2011
    Messages:
    868
    Likes Received:
    0
    Well it could be a sort of prequel to the batman verse though cops taking down gothams villains I dunno I prefer batman over Gordon but I will check it out

    There better still be a few solo Affleck Batman films
     
    #5
  6. herolee10

    herolee10 No More Miracles

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2007
    Messages:
    25,260
    Likes Received:
    77
    So now we have a show about Green Arrow out there, one that's been proven to be somewhat popular with the fans and GA (well considering that it's a CW show) and we're going to be getting a show about the Flash that's based within the same continuity as Arrow and now we're going to have a show about Gordon in his days before he met "Batman".

    DC/Warner Bros. might as well establish that all of this is within the same continuity as MOS to save them to the trouble of having to create a larger universe on the big screen in order to make a JL film.
     
    #6
  7. Sawyer

    Sawyer High King

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2004
    Messages:
    98,397
    Likes Received:
    47
    *crossed fingers for shared universe*
     
    #7
  8. Lencho01

    Lencho01 Shazoogle! Shazoogle!

    Joined:
    May 19, 2010
    Messages:
    26,406
    Likes Received:
    112
  9. herolee10

    herolee10 No More Miracles

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2007
    Messages:
    25,260
    Likes Received:
    77
    Honestly though, this had better to lead into something great at the end since I still remember on how so many were disappointed that after 10 years of being on air, we only got one shirt rip and a few CGI doubles to pose in for the Superman shots from "Smallville".

    And truth be told, I'm willing to bet that one of the biggest questions that will constantly be raised by many is when they can expect to see Batman because at the end of the day, Batman is far more popular than Gordon and the biggest reason why some will tune into this show AT FIRST is because of Gordon's connection with Batman.
     
    #9
  10. Boom

    Boom I got nothin'

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2003
    Messages:
    44,070
    Likes Received:
    168
    My body wasn't ready for this news.
     
    #10
  11. Lencho01

    Lencho01 Shazoogle! Shazoogle!

    Joined:
    May 19, 2010
    Messages:
    26,406
    Likes Received:
    112
    Smallville pretty much is a test of what to do when making these types of shows:

    1. Have people who actually care about the character
    2. Have a set plan and stick with it
    3. Have good writers
    4. Stop with this rights BS that keeps certain aspects off the show
     
    #11
  12. shauner111

    shauner111 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2011
    Messages:
    16,108
    Likes Received:
    4
    From what ive seen from Arrow, it sucks. Im not expecting greatness from Flash since he debuts in that show then spins off into its own thing with an actor who is younger than me. And im only 25. Id rather see Barry Allen (im not a fan of Wally West most of the time) in his late 20s or early 30s, whether that's film or tv.

    So the fact that this show will be on Fox (blah) and could be connected to these shows?? That could be disappointing. The writer from the Mentalist is doing this, so it could be alright. Im not a fan of that show but what ive seen it's OK for what it's trying to do. I cant diss it. Im just into different styles of television. So im not completely sure what kind of a writer he is.

    It's too bad it wasn't written by Jonah Nolan who is doing Person of Interest and tied to the Nolan-verse. But hopefully this will get a good cast.
     
    #12
  13. The Question

    The Question Objectivism doesn't work.

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2005
    Messages:
    40,519
    Likes Received:
    0
    I'm incredibly skeptical. This really feels like a reaction to Agents of SHIELD, and that sort of thing doesn't usually lead to quality content. Sometimes it does, but I have a lot of doubts right now.

    I'm also not sure if keeping Batman out of a show about solving crimes in Gotham will be as easy or natural as keeping the Avengers out of a SHIELD show.
     
    #13
  14. Rorschach2012

    Rorschach2012 I'll Cancel the Pizzas

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2006
    Messages:
    16,876
    Likes Received:
    75
    Wow this is fantastic news.Hopefully we see some classic Batman villains in this. we'd have to right?

    I really wonder if this will be connected to Batman/Superman

    And I wonder who will play Gordon. if its a prequel, it'll probably be some guy in his mid to late 30s maybe early 40s
     
    #14
  15. king666

    king666 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2013
    Messages:
    3,034
    Likes Received:
    0
    I like Arrow, it's plain dumb fun. S1's first half was mediocre, but the second half was great. Don't want it to be connected to the MOS universe, though.
     
    #15
  16. The Guard

    The Guard Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2002
    Messages:
    32,374
    Likes Received:
    22
    I could care less about villains, though I'm sure we'll see them in some fashion. I want to see Bullock, Montoya, Essen, etc.
     
    #16
  17. Visiting Arkham

    Visiting Arkham Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2007
    Messages:
    274
    Likes Received:
    0
    What feels weird about it is how they intend to have the rogues gallery in there without the existence of Batman. I'm not against trying out new ideas in different continuities, but the villains have always been reflections of who Batman is or could be, so to take him out of the equation seems strange. Or maybe they are going to leave the heavy hitters out of it and focus on small time crooks, who knows.

    My biggest fear is it turning into a mediocre CBS procedural type show, just a bland cop drama with comic characters.
     
    #17
  18. MagnarTheGreat

    MagnarTheGreat Web Ninja

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2011
    Messages:
    9,409
    Likes Received:
    41
    Comments and questions

    • The Mentalist never interested me.
    • It needs good writing. Call up/consult Ed Brubaker.
    • Be way different than those other TV procedurals than just theming it with Batman characters.
    • A good cast. Gordon and I assume Barbara are locks as characters.
    • Any continuity with the new set of films? I'd likely be ok with that.
    • How fantastical? Going further than the Nolan films could help separate it from other TV procedurals.
    • Another missed opportunity for a Wonder Woman show.
     
    #18
  19. The Guard

    The Guard Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2002
    Messages:
    32,374
    Likes Received:
    22
    Seeing characters like Falcone and Cobblepot fleshed out could be cool.
     
    #19
  20. Lencho01

    Lencho01 Shazoogle! Shazoogle!

    Joined:
    May 19, 2010
    Messages:
    26,406
    Likes Received:
    112
    It could just end up like your standard cop show that so happens to have some DC characters in it.

    What's funny is I just read this...

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2013/09/22/ed-brubaker-sunday-conversation/2828983/

     
    #20
  21. Saint

    Saint The Devil's Robot

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2003
    Messages:
    13,593
    Likes Received:
    0
    I think they're making a mistake by involving the origins of Batman's villains; it's just going to make the absence of Batman that much more pronounced and awkward--unless, as Guard suggested, we're talking about the likes of Cobblepot, in which case, sounds good.

    In any case, if it's a freak of the week procedural, I don't want it. If it's a serialized crime drama, sign me the hell up.
     
    #21
  22. The Question

    The Question Objectivism doesn't work.

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2005
    Messages:
    40,519
    Likes Received:
    0
    Well, they might mean characters a step removed from the main rogues gallery, like Black Mask and the Falcone family.
     
    #22
  23. The Guard

    The Guard Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2002
    Messages:
    32,374
    Likes Received:
    22
    It would be a nice way to get some characters onscreen we might not otherwise see, or see for a while. Gordon's daughter Barbara, supporting officers from the GCPD, Harvey Dent. There are all kinds of possibilities.
     
    #23
  24. Saint

    Saint The Devil's Robot

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2003
    Messages:
    13,593
    Likes Received:
    0
    Recently the history of Gotham prior to Batman has become popular subject matter i the comics; this is also an opportunity to exploit some of that--and showcase a lot of the material that just wouldn't make it into a movie or animated series.
     
    #24
  25. Visiting Arkham

    Visiting Arkham Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2007
    Messages:
    274
    Likes Received:
    0
    Maybe a Court of Owls serialized undercurrent?
     
    #25

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "afb8e5d7348ab9e99f73cba908f10802"