The Dark Knight Could Two-Face hold up a movie by himself?

[MAKIEVELLI]

With Batman as a superhero with no powers, it makes sense that very few of his villains have powers. As much as I love his rogues gallery, In my opinion, the only villains who could support a Batman movie all by themselves are THE JOKER and RA'S AL GHUL. Just how much can you do with Harvey Dent? Sure, he's interesting, but he has no super powers or martial arts experience to speak of. Just how many henchmen can a super villain have? I know Nolan probably won't have Dent as the sole villain in the third installment, BATMAN: LEGACY (fingers crossed), but I was wondering if you think Two-Face could carry a movie as the sole villain.

 

[Yurka]

Absolutely yes.

 

[Rezzo]

Of course he could

 

[MAKIEVELLI]

Absolutely yes.

But how interesting is he really? Yes, the two different sides and how similar he is to Bruce could be a subplot, but what about in terms of action? He can't fight or anything, so his only weapon would probably be a gun. I know the Joker can't fight either, but he is just all around a more interesting character IMO.

 

[BubbaGump]

But how interesting is he really? Yes, the two different sides and how similar he is to Bruce could be a subplot, but what about in terms of action? He can't fight or anything, so his only weapon would probably be a gun. I know the Joker can't fight either, but he is just all around a more interesting character IMO.

He has his brains. He could run a massive duality-inspired underground criminals racket.

Then again...maybe he can't...I don't know...do I?

 

[Yurka]

But how interesting is he really? Yes, the two different sides and how similar he is to Bruce could be a subplot, but what about in terms of action? He can't fight or anything, so his only weapon would probably be a gun. I know the Joker can't fight either, but he is just all around a more interesting character IMO.

action wise, he would not be as exciting to watch as the Joker, but Two-Face is such a complex character, he could have henchmen that do some of his dirty work for him. I believe Joker and Two-Face and maybe Mr. Freeze are the only villains that could maintain a movie on their own.

 

[lordofthenerds]

Undecidede.

 

[Shoemeister]

Uh, chyeah.

 

[the amazing fro]

Of Course Freakin Yes!

 

[regwec]

He is certainly interesting and dramatic enough, but he is also incredibly dour and self-pitying. He doesn't have the magnetism of The Joker. His moral ambiguity is more effectibe if there are other villains around, too.

 

[BubbaGump]

action wise, he would not be as exciting to watch as the Joker, but Two-Face is such a complex character, he could have henchmen that do some of his dirty work for him. I believe Joker and Two-Face and maybe Mr. Freeze are the only villains that could maintain a movie on their own.

*ahem* As much as I like Mr. Freeze...

"I FREEEZE."

He can't support a movie on his own outside of the animated series (Sub-Zero). And even then, you'd only be recycling what's already been done.

 

[sglass03]

This is a question I've always had. Two-Face is a popular villain due to his backstory, but could he hold up a film by himself, a la the Joker? I'm thinking he could, but only if it were done the right way - the right way being similar to "The Long Halloween/Dark Victory" storylines.

The Schumacher version of Two-Face could not, of course, but a semi-sympathetic Harvey being dominated by his ugly side-personality Two-Face while he enacts vigilante justice on crooked cops and gangsters could make for an interesting storyline. Not only would there be an interesting contrast between Batman and Two-Face (both seeking justice, but the latter doing it in a more perverse way), but Two-Face is also a very different kind of villain than Joker, making a third film starring him differently themed. Plus, you can have him enlisting other "freaks" to help him - Riddler, Penguin, or maybe some other rogue like Catwoman.

I think the best storyline for a third film would be Joker escaping from Arkham (or escaping from his trial, if what Goyer said was true), and then Two-Face going on a rampage to find him and kill him. In other words, it would be a race between Batman and Two-Face to find the guy before Two-Face tears the city apart in a wake of bodies.

 

[Yurka]

*ahem* As much as I like Mr. Freeze...

"I FREEEZE."

He can't support a movie on his own outside of the animated series (Sub-Zero). And even then, you'd only be recycling what's already been done.

lol I knew this would come up, but having a movie directed by schumacher and having Arnold play Freeze obviously would ruin the film. I think with Nolan and a great casting choice for Victor, Freeze could work on his own.

 

[Mysterio]

But how interesting is he really? Yes, the two different sides and how similar he is to Bruce could be a subplot, but what about in terms of action? He can't fight or anything, so his only weapon would probably be a gun. I know the Joker can't fight either, but he is just all around a more interesting character IMO.

he's a pretty interesting and tragic character. the good/bad struggle is one of the foundations of drama and for a character to have that struggle going on within himself is pretty compelling. it doesn't have to look like a 4th of july fireworks show or a kung fu movie to be interesting. good stories come from conflict, and Two Face would offer a lot of different avenues for conflict including protagonist vs. antagonist and internal character conflict.

 

[Anjow1060]

*ahem* As much as I like Mr. Freeze...

"I FREEEZE."

He can't support a movie on his own outside of the animated series (Sub-Zero). And even then, you'd only be recycling what's already been done.

*sigh*

if only i was willing to send out my spec script to fans.

Regardless, Two-face could definatly hold up the movie himself.

However, I believe Face and Joker will be sharing TDK and SOTB 50/50.....no pun intended. If anything the odds will lean in Joker's favor.

 

[MAKIEVELLI]

This is a question I've always had. Two-Face is a popular villain due to his backstory, but could he hold up a film by himself, a la the Joker? I'm thinking he could, but only if it were done the right way - the right way being similar to "The Long Halloween/Dark Victory" storylines.

The Schumacher version of Two-Face could not, of course, but a semi-sympathetic Harvey being dominated by his ugly side-personality Two-Face while he enacts vigilante justice on crooked cops and gangsters could make for an interesting storyline. Not only would there be an interesting contrast between Batman and Two-Face (both seeking justice, but the latter doing it in a more perverse way), but Two-Face is also a very different kind of villain than Joker, making a third film starring him differently themed. Plus, you can have him enlisting other "freaks" to help him - Riddler, Penguin, or maybe some other rogue like Catwoman.

I think the best storyline for a third film would be Joker escaping from Arkham (or escaping from his trial, if what Goyer said was true), and then Two-Face going on a rampage to find him and kill him. In other words, it would be a race between Batman and Two-Face to find the guy before Two-Face tears the city apart in a wake of bodies.

I could dig that. Maybe have him and Lyle Bolton work together. I think it would be an interesting story if The Joker broke out from Arkham where Lyle worked, Lyle was fired, and he took it personally so he decides to go after the Joker as Lock-Up. He eventually teams up with Dent to help him rid Gotham of criminals. Interesting, but I still don't htink Dent could handle a movie by himself.

 

[marcofthebeast]

Two-Face can definitely hold up a movie as the main villian. Their are so many angles they can play him. I am hoping for a sympathetic villian with a vigilante type of edge. Getting back at the thugs that ruined his life, but taking it way too far. I think the Two-Face side of the story should be less action oriented and have a subplot with a more physically threating villian. Maybe Lady Shiva or Tahlia Al Ghul can the new leader of the league of shadows get revenge on Bats for Ra's. Can also introduce a weird love intrest subplot.

 

[MAKIEVELLI]

Two-Face can definitely hold up a movie as the main villian. Their are so many angles they can play him. I am hoping for a sympathetic villian with a vigilante type of edge. Getting back at the thugs that ruined his life, but taking it way too far. I think the Two-Face side of the story should be less action oriented and have a subplot with a more physically threating villian. Maybe Lady Shiva or Tahlia Al Ghul can the new leader of the league of shadows get revenge on Bats for Ra's. Can also introduce a weird love intrest subplot.

I think you are missing the point. I don't mean main villain. I mean only villain.

 

[regwec]

I don't understand the argument that Two Face is less threatening than other villains. He is more physical than The Joker, Scarecrow, The Riddler, The Penguin, Mad Hatter, Ventriloquist and many other rogues. His weapons and methods are more conventional, but he is also highly intelligent and cunning.

 

[marcofthebeast]

What would make you think that there would ever be only one villain in these movies?

 

[Arkham_Assassin]

If he is campy and not at all crazy in this film, I will seriously quit Batman altogether. **** Tommy Lee Jones and his Two-Face.

And Jim Carrey's Riddler.
I didn't think that you could laugh at someone getting killed. But I did. And yeah.

I love Two Face. I think he is a bad ass on his own, but if he had a little help, it'd be cool. Ahhh I'm gonna get **** for this lol.

 

[MAKIEVELLI]

What would make you think that there would ever be only one villain in these movies?

I don't think you get it.

 

[Mysterio]

i think it gets a little dull going outside of the main popular villains, ie Joker, Penguin, Catwoman, Riddler. some villains work better as comic book fodder rather than big screen stories. as cool as some of those characters are in comic book form or in an animated show, they just aren't interesting enough to star in a movie. i think Two Face is an exception to that, though.

 

[Mysterio]

What would make you think that there would ever be only one villain in these movies?

uh..nothing did. he's presenting a hypothetical.

 

[strikezone89]

absolutly yes.