The Dark Knight Could Two-Face hold up a movie by himself?

[Two-Face]

My opinion on this is really two-fold;

I think that Two-Face (done properly) can be more than a handful for and become Batman's primary concern. However, part of the thing about Batman is there is never just "one" villain. There may be one nemesis, etc. but there's always more than one worry, or more than one crime to prevent.

But yes, I think that Two-Face could be his primary concern for a full film. None of that Tommy Lee Jones robbing a bank vault with a helicopter bull *****

Two Face robbed a bank in comics and TAS, how is that bull****?

 

[Sccmj23]

Two Face robbed a bank in comics and TAS, how is that bull****?

I think he's just referring to Batman Forever and how gay it was/is.

 

[Two-Face]

I think he's just referring to Batman Forever and how gay it was/is.

Oh, I thought that scene was fine on BF apart from Two-Fac laughing like a Joker.

 

[TheBat812]

Easily. He's the most psychologically interesting villain Batman has (save maybe the Joker). The Nolans' are kings in that realm.

 

[JosephMaximus]

Two Face robbed a bank in comics and TAS, how is that bull****?

It was a reference to Batman Forever, not the action. Schumaker just killed the character.

 

[Two-Face]

It was a reference to Batman Forever, not the action. Schumaker just killed the character.

oh yes, I agree on that.

 

[Bruise Wayne]

I always liked to think that Harvey Dent was maybe who bruce would've grown up to be had his parents not been murdered, as in he still fought crime due to the virtues instilled in him, but that he did it 'legally' through the courts. I think if they play up the friendship aspect between him and Bruce, before Harvey's scarring then it becomes a story about not only stopping an evil man but trying to save a friend. LOTS of story dynamic there to play around with so hell yeah it could carry a film I reckon.

 

[bosef982]

Yes, especially if Two-Face is positioned as a the alternative to Batman. As this film will see Gotham esclate, radical vigilantes like TwoFace will become more and more attractive I think to the people of Gotham, and it may be up to Batman to enter in and exhibit the restrained cause of justice.

I think that could be an interesting twist. Instead of having Batman always represetning justice to criminals, introduce Two-Face in sucha way as Batman must represent justice to the people of Gotham, who want more extreme measures taken as Gotham continues to fall in the wake of th Joker's attacks.

Two-Face can definitely stand alone...though I dont' think he will in the third film.

 

[the_monk]

How do you figure that? Ledger is 6'1 and Eckhart is 5'11.

That's only 2 inches in height, and Eckhart is built bigger. That's what I'm talking about. Ledger's thin.

 

[Saint]

What a ridiculous question; of course he can support his own movie. The only difference would be a diminished focus on action and an increased focus on psychology, drama, and criminology. Of course, I'm sure many would go into explosion deprivation and hate it.

 

[itsthebatman]

What a ridiculous question; of course he can support his own movie. The only difference would be a diminished focus on action and an increased focus on psychology, drama, and criminology. Of course, I'm sure many would go into explosion deprivation and hate it.

Then we should rename the thread 'Can Two-Face hold up a movie without a lot of big explosions all by his lonesome?'
Totally agree with Saint. He's definitely a rich enough character to be able to do so.

 

[The Mighty Wind]

If you go for the Long Halloween as your source material, I doubt it. Two-Face needs another conflict there for his sense of justice to be there to conflict with Batman's.

 

[itsthebatman]

Well, TDK will focus on the rise and fall of Harvey Dent, and then part III concentrate on Two-Face, which is where the issue will arise. If we see Dent following his own form of justice, killing those he perecives as having either escaped justice or did him worn (corrupt judges, etc) that's what they could work with in part III. Robin Year One has a storyline where Two-Face kills the judge who presided over the court hearing he was scarred in, and Knightfall has a storyline where Batman was put on trial by Two-Face. I imagine that's the angle, that sense of warped justice, that they'll go with in part III.

 

[Katsuro]

Normally he probably could, but it wouldnt fit as a sequel to Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. Sure, you could do a neat litle detective movie with Batman hunting down Two-Face, but it would seem so out of place coming right after The Dark Knight, which looks to be epic in scale.

Nolan's bat-movies seem to be really complex. Lots of characters, lots of **** going on. I highly doubt the next movie will be just Batman vs. Two-Face.

Also, I have a feeling Nolan will want to show us something new, and with reports of Eckhart wearing the make-up in the second film already, Two-Face wont be that new. I definatley think the third Batman film will be a lot more than Batman vs. Two-Face.

 

[Crook]

Yeah, I think TDK is really the set-up for the costumed criminals we've all become familiar to in the comics. Whereas BB focused more so on the corrupt, TDK seems to be a transition of the mob and insane world. Leaving space for the sequel where he can go all-out on the colorful rogues gallery.

Especially with the latest rumor posted on BOF, it seems like we'll be getting a grand reunion of the famous bat-villains all in the same movie for the next one.

 

[sasquatchs]

Yes, especially if Two-Face is positioned as a the alternative to Batman. As this film will see Gotham esclate, radical vigilantes like TwoFace will become more and more attractive I think to the people of Gotham, and it may be up to Batman to enter in and exhibit the restrained cause of justice.

I think that could be an interesting twist. Instead of having Batman always represetning justice to criminals, introduce Two-Face in sucha way as Batman must represent justice to the people of Gotham, who want more extreme measures taken as Gotham continues to fall in the wake of th Joker's attacks.

Two-Face can definitely stand alone...though I dont' think he will in the third film.

Well in my mind it'll go like this. Dent comes into the story with a strong mandate for overzealous measures within the confines of the system, attempting to round up all the gangs and get them to agree to plea deals and some jailtime. So things go well for a while, but then the strategy backfires, and the system fails him before he becomes Two-Face.

Don't think the vigilantes will be supported by the public as such, they're just inspired by Batman in an unexpected and dangerous way. I think their purpose in the story is to undermine Batman's methods and take things too far, causing a backlash when things start to go wrong. As in, they're killed, and Joker? tortures one of them for supporting Batman. At the beginning of TDK Gotham will be behind Batman, but things sour once the escalation occurs and Joker terrorizes the people into giving him Batman.

So I think the idea of vigilante justice will have lost its appeal to most before Dent turns, and Batman only gets his support back in 3, where Two-Face is bound to be the main foe because of the personal connection

 

[wikum]

With Batman as a superhero with no powers, it makes sense that very few of his villains have powers. As much as I love his rogues gallery, In my opinion, the only villains who could support a Batman movie all by themselves are THE JOKER and RA'S AL GHUL. Just how much can you do with Harvey Dent? Sure, he's interesting, but he has no super powers or martial arts experience to speak of. Just how many henchmen can a super villain have? I know Nolan probably won't have Dent as the sole villain in the third installment, BATMAN: LEGACY (fingers crossed), but I was wondering if you think Two-Face could carry a movie as the sole villain.

Very good question. I have been thinking this myself. I seriously doubt Aaron Eckhart could hold his own as the only villian in Batman 3. However, I seriously doubt Aaron Eckhart would be the only villian in Batman 3. Joker will almost certainly be back, probably the evolution of Riddler, plus Selina Kyle/Catwoman is likely. Scarecrow might pop up too, although I think he will either die or end up back in Arkham.

 

[Diamondhead]

Unless they do it like al pachino
Scareface

 

[MAKIEVELLI]

Unless they do it like al pachino
Scareface

Specify, please.

 

[Dark52Knight]

Absolutley Not

 

[Dark52Knight]

That would be a boring ass movie

 

[AndrewGilkison]

If they write Two-Face like Jeph Loeb wrote him in Dark Victory, I can easily see him being worthy as the main villain for the third film. He was really a mean S.O.B in that book.

 

[DieSmiling]

Two-Face could hold a movie by himself. It probably wouldn't be as good as if they used another supporting villain, but he's certainly a deep and important enough character to pull it off if he's well written in a good story.

 

[MAKIEVELLI]

A few of you seem confused. I never said main villain, I said only villain, as in uno.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I think he could,both as a threat to Batman and with the complexity of the character and his relationship with Bruce