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Anyway, I just hope Jean will cool her head when she was in dead mode before coming back, or she can just stay dead and let Emma have Scott. At least, Emma isn't likely to kiss Logan under any circumstances.

I'm not quite sure it'd make sense to have Jott together after Endsong, really.

IMO, the whole point was that Scott will always love Jean in some capacity, just not in a "I want to grow old with you and honestly believe we can shoot for a happy ending together and not mess it up."

And as for Emma, the whole 'her not wanting to f*** someone else' angle is more of a 'bonus' than the actual reason why I like those two better than Jott, really.

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Do you remember which issue is it? The problem with X Men comics is there are too many extensions and confuse me all the time.

No. Hell, only got back into the whole thing with Astonishing earlier this year. If memory serves correctly, the wedding was in the early 90s after the team got split in two. Probably Uncanny X-Men early 300s.
 
I moved to Japan back in August and "The Last Stand" just came out on DVD here. So, now the whole what-could-have-been obsession has once again taken the lead of all of my thoughts. This movie continues to haunt me, and all of us I'm sure. So here's a little something I did. It's nothing spectatular, but Cyclops does return...... :cwink:

 
Shows how much you actually know. Yes, I do get along with Danoyse and Storm22 just fine. Maybe if you stopped trying to convert people with your zealot love of X3, perhaps you would see that when they post here about what they like about the film I handle it just fine.

You, on the other hand, continue to defend it, defend it, defend it, and defend it as though anyone says anything negative about it is wrong and you're right. Sorry Nell, that's not how it goes in life and as I said, I know plenty of people who love X3 both comic book fans and non-comic book fans, and guess what? I get along with them just fine.

You practically admitted more than once that as long as it's the X-Men you don't care.

Of course you'll backtrack now that you've been caught and exposed again.

On ignore you go and I have to finish watching Schindlers List, you know, a great film.

Dude, please.

Where have I ever tried to "convert" anyone over this film? You're attitude is getting absolutley ridiculous now.

And whatever you say about me "defending" this film constantly, can be said right back towards you about how you attack the film and anyone who likes it, in an attempt to bully them into your opinion.

I've admitted nothing. And whatever it is you think I have admitted, why does it matter to you so much? Why do you have to go out of your way to put people down because of their view? Why do you have to proclaim particular views as "inferior", while your's is somehow the guiding light?

I'm sick and tired of your attitude. Your snide remarks about Schindler's List in your previous posts show that you don't respect the tastes of others, and think you have some "superior" standards to anyone else. I'm sorry, because you hate X3 and I like it does not make you superior to me, nor do you have "higher" standards.

And the viewpoint that you claim I have that you try to insult me for, I have not "admitted" to in the least bit. It is you constantly trying to twist my words and putting words into my mouth to make yourself look better than me.

It's quite the shame that you have to use Storm22 and danoyse, 2 completely innocent posters, as your scapegoat for how "accepting" you are of other's opinions, when I don't have to go back very far to find posts in which you've insulted them in the same way you continue to insult me.

Fine, you put me on ignore? Great.

Your pompous attitude has gotten you reported to a mod once again. I am sick and tired of your attitude around here, and your bullying nature trying to bully everyone into your line of thinking. I did nothing in my responses to attack you, but once again, you feel the need to go out of your way and try to make yourself look superior to me by insulting my opinion because it doesn't meet your standards. Who exactly between the 2 of us is the "zealot"?
 
I moved to Japan back in August and "The Last Stand" just came out on DVD here. So, now the whole what-could-have-been obsession has once again taken the lead of all of my thoughts. This movie continues to haunt me, and all of us I'm sure. So here's a little something I did. It's nothing spectatular, but Cyclops does return...... :cwink:


That pic is so tragic and also romantic. :csad: Thank god it didnt happen in the movie. I'd have weeped to see Cyclops killing jean wid his own hands!!
 
That pic is so tragic and also romantic. :csad: Thank god it didnt happen in the movie. I'd have weeped to see Cyclops killing jean wid his own hands!!

I think that's absolutley what should have happened.

Sure, the scene with Wolverine is pretty nice, but it would have been so much more special and powerful had it been Cyclops.
 
I still think Jean should of sacrificed herself in front of Scott's eyes. That would of been real epic. :)
 
I think that's absolutley what should have happened.

Sure, the scene with Wolverine is pretty nice, but it would have been so much more special and powerful had it been Cyclops.

I still think Jean should of sacrificed herself in front of Scott's eyes. That would of been real epic. :)

Well guys, remember, in the end of x2, wehen jean was killing herself, Scot was trying to save her by getting off the x-jet. How can he himself kill jean in the enxt film?? wont ti had been dramatic and unrealastic?? :hyper:
 
Well guys, remember, in the end of x2, wehen jean was killing herself, Scot was trying to save her by getting off the x-jet. How can he himself kill jean in the enxt film?? wont ti had been dramatic and unrealastic?? :hyper:

Because by the end of X-Men 3, Cyclops would realize the true destruction nature and potential of Jean, and realize that her own destruction is the best solution.

He didn't know these things at the end of X2.
 
That pic is so tragic and also romantic. :csad: Thank god it didnt happen in the movie. I'd have weeped to see Cyclops killing jean wid his own hands!!

Which is exactly what should've happened. It would've been truer to the source material and would've been a more powerful moment than Logan being her "savior".

The scene with Logan is the biggest insult and spit in the face to comic book fans and to the comics in general.
 
truer?

In the long run it's still inaccurate. What's with everyone trying to take away Jean's flame!! :(
 
Because by the end of X-Men 3, Cyclops would realize the true destruction nature and potential of Jean, and realize that her own destruction is the best solution.

He didn't know these things at the end of X2.

Oh, ok, thanx!!

Which is exactly what should've happened. It would've been truer to the source material and would've been a more powerful moment than Logan being her "savior".

The scene with Logan is the biggest insult and spit in the face to comic book fans and to the comics in general.

I agree!! n i also think that the whole jean/logan love story is an insult to comic book readers!!
 
Yes but i think what Storm means is that it doesn't overshadow the Scott Jean love story the way it did in X3. ;)

Besides the final lover result in the movie is a result of a couple of days while in the comic books they knew each other for a good month before it can be said that he "loved" her. I mean he had a crush but I surely don't recall love at first sight.
 
Yes but i think what Storm means is that it doesn't overshadow the Scott Jean love story the way it did in X3. ;)

Besides the final lover result in the movie is a result of a couple of days while in the comic books they knew each other for a good month before it can be said that he "loved" her. I mean he had a crush but I surely don't recall love at first sight.

Meh, I don't really care about how long it took for him to love her. It's a movie. Things like this happen in movies.

Kyle Reese and Sarah Connor didn't know each other but for a couple of days before he boned her and became the father of the future. Jack and Rose from Titanic barely knew each other a few days before she decided to leave her fiance for him. That's how things work in movies, and unfortunatley, the X-Men movies didn't have time for months of Logan getting to know Jean.

I will, however, agree that Logan's love for Jean definatley overshadowed Scott's love for her in X-Men: The Last Stand, and that is one of my major complaints about the film.
 
yes but in the comics Jean loves Scot more than she loves Logan while in the movies it's just vice versa. :hyper:

No it's not.

Jean obviously loves Scott more than she loves Logan. She spends 2 movies rejecting Logan, and in X-Men: The Last Stand, it's her Phoenix persona that's toying with Logan's emotions in the infirmary.

It is made quite clear through the films that Jean loves Scott, not Logan.
 
No it's not.

Jean obviously loves Scott more than she loves Logan. She spends 2 movies rejecting Logan, and in X-Men: The Last Stand, it's her Phoenix persona that's toying with Logan's emotions in the infirmary.

It is made quite clear through the films that Jean loves Scott, not Logan.

I understand what u mean. But Jean was clearly flirtign with Logan in x1 and x2. yeah, she loves Scot and rejects Logan, but thats in the comics too!! :o
 
^ Yea the other characters Nell mentioned had developement together, and where not involved in a love triangle. I wonder if he knows that? ;) :D
 
I moved to Japan back in August and "The Last Stand" just came out on DVD here. So, now the whole what-could-have-been obsession has once again taken the lead of all of my thoughts. This movie continues to haunt me, and all of us I'm sure. So here's a little something I did. It's nothing spectatular, but Cyclops does return...... :cwink:


Wow, if only.
If that happened I think I would have shouted 'oh my god' out loud or something lol.
And Scott would save her!!!
 
truer?

In the long run it's still inaccurate. What's with everyone trying to take away Jean's flame!! :(

Hmm, what I'm saying is that in the long run it's still a lot more truer to the source material. It shows Scott being the one that goes through what he does to save Jean.

Jean in the comics loves Logan? What comics have people been reading? Unless they're talking about the non-canon comic books where Jean and Logan are lovers. The Weapon X story of Jean/Logan being lovers is non-canon, as is Endsong too.

I realize that it's still inaccurate regardless, but it would've been more faithful to the comics and more faithful to the love of Scott/Jean.
 
I still think Jean should of sacrificed herself in front of Scott's eyes. That would of been real epic. :)
I think she should have too. I would have liked it if Scott had approached her as Logan did, though because Jean loves Scott, she is able to overpower the Phoenix within her so Scott can get close without being disintegrated.

Then she could tell him that she is too powerful and doesn't deserve to live because of all those that she has unintentionally killed. Then she could have used her powers to remove his visor and used his optic blast to kill herself, or she could have just used the power inside her to do it instead.

Then Cyclops could have held her in his arms, sort of like this...
Uncanny136.jpg

Just an idea, I certainly would've preferred something like this than the version with Wolverine that we got instead.
 
I think she should have too. I would have liked it if Scott had approached her as Logan did, though because Jean loves Scott, she is able to overpower the Phoenix within her so Scott can get close without being disintegrated.

Then she could tell him that she is too powerful and doesn't deserve to live because of all those that she has unintentionally killed. Then she could have used her powers to remove his visor and used his optic blast to kill herself, or she could have just used the power inside her to do it instead.

Then Cyclops could have held her in his arms, sort of like this...
Uncanny136.jpg

Just an idea, I certainly would've preferred something like this than the version with Wolverine that we got instead.

which issue is that??
 

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