Cyclops Returns(Old Thread Closed)

[iamlegend]

I think Cyke should stay dead.

No, I don't have a problem with the character. Hell, I kind of like the character. Every team needs a guy like Cyke.

But I just don't want to get into the resurrection thing AGAIN. We've already resurrected Jean Grey by saying she just became the Phoenix... Lets please not have ANOTHER character survive Alkali Lake. It'd be horribly lame and would hurt the story terribly.

Sorry guys. If Cyke had made it through X3 I'd be all about bringing him back. But we don't need more people returning from the dead... The movies at TRY to maintain some of the boundaries that the comic world ignores.

 

[Bishop2]

It doesn't have to be a "resurrection." We never saw him die, we just saw him get all wobbly, and then Jean is mysteriously unconscious when the X-Duo arrives. It's pretty easy to explain without ever having to "bring him back to life" in any literal sense.

 

[The Original Bamfer]

Xavier should stay dead, Cyclops should not.

 

[taintedFB]

Lucky for us, he didn't die on camera. So yes, he can be brought back without a "resurrection".

As for Xavier. I don't think he should return. He should remain at Muir Island with Moira.

 

[Bishop2]

Xavier should stay dead, Cyclops should not.

Unfortunately, because he's already alive in the post-credits sequence, everyone will expect his return.

And that, incidentally, was stupid. They had done a great job portraying Xavier so far, but they also clearly have trouble with him in the movies. They always feel the need to incapacitate him in some way or other because he's too powerful. There's even talk about this on the X2 DVD commentary. So the writers kill him off only to... bring him back again?

Meanwhile, a character whose potential has not even BEGUN to be tapped, one of the longest-running X-Men characters with one of the biggest backstories to mine for future installments... is offed unceremoniously with no hint of a resurrection.

So we can eliminate the guy we've done almost nothing with because we'd rather destroy tons of untapped potential, but we'd better not kill the guy we have no idea how to write and who has already gotten major focus in the existing films.

It's enough to make me scream.

 

[taintedFB]

Honestly, though.

If they do an X-4. They may just bring him back because:

A: Logan has his own franchise, and won't go back to an ensemble film
B: Marsden is cheaper than many of the big name celebs whose price may be too high
C: They'll need at least one major player from the original trilogy for Continuity linking the movies together and Bobby and Kitty won't cut it
D: Halle Berry may be too expensive
E: The FANS want it!

From coast to coast the fans cry out... and they will be heard!

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

It doesn't have to be a "resurrection." We never saw him die, we just saw him get all wobbly, and then Jean is mysteriously unconscious when the X-Duo arrives. It's pretty easy to explain without ever having to "bring him back to life" in any literal sense.

Jean never "died" either, technically.

It's the concept of bringing back someone who was "killed off" in a previous movie. The entire concept will get old, and warped out. I don't care that we never saw him die, his character is established to be dead. The films will begin to lose credibility when every new movie brings back someone who "died" in the last one.

It's the reason why there needs to be no more X-Men movies what so ever. Characters like Cyclops, Jean, and Xavier are gone, and they are vital to the X-Men. I don't care that there are some comic book issues out there without certain characters, but the X-Men should NOT be without Cyclops, Jean, Xavier, Storm, and Wolverine. 3 of those 5 are gone, and they can't be brought back in a way that will be taken seriously, not after we already have an entire movie based upon a character's "resurrection", a resurrection which is a trademark aspect of said character's story arc.

 

[Bastila]

Honestly, though.

If they do an X-4. They may just bring him back because:

A: Logan has his own franchise, and won't go back to an ensemble film
B: Marsden is cheaper than many of the big name celebs whose price may be too high
C: They'll need at least one major player from the original trilogy for Continuity linking the movies together and Bobby and Kitty won't cut it
D: Halle Berry may be too expensive
E: The FANS want it!

From coast to coast the fans cry out... and they will be heard!

You got some good points in your list as well.

And I hope to see those banners one day across the world.

 

[Hulkster]

Lucky for us, he didn't die on camera. So yes, he can be brought back without a "resurrection".

As for Xavier. I don't think he should return. He should remain at Muir Island with Moira.

I agree with you. There's no need to have a resurrection because Cyclops rumored death is never shown onscreen.

There is still hope for Cyclops!!!

 

[Archangeldawn]

I'm not sure if I read it before the X3 came out or if the theatrical cut is different from the dvd. Anywho, I thought i had seen the Phoenix shot cyclops back with his own power. Was this cut from the dvd, or was this scene never shown in the theatrical cut?

 

[Bishop2]

I'm not sure if I read it before the X3 came out or if the theatrical cut is different from the dvd. Anywho, I thought i had seen the Phoenix shot cyclops back with his own power. Was this cut from the dvd, or was this scene never shown in the theatrical cut?

Never happened in the theatrical cut OR on the DVD.

 

[Archangeldawn]

ah thanks!
I must've just imagined how cyclops died and over time gotten confused and made it part of the movie XD

 

[taintedFB]

If only...

Perhaps a new X-Men Continuity like The Age of Apocalypse... or Days Of Futures Past can save the franchise....

Like Bishop in the future, seeing his world change because Jean & Scott were not meant to die this way. He goes back to the moment of Jean's resurrection and stops their deaths. Enter Sinister who takes them prisoner... and hello, CABLE, another time traveler, coming back because Bishop's attempts to rescue Scott & Jean would prevent his birth.... ah it would be like Terminator only with X-Men!

 

[UraniaChang]

If the writers *really* put their mind into it they could come up with something to explain the whole Cyclops 'mysteriously disappeared' scene, it won't be more difficult than try to explain how Professor managed to insert his psychic identity into another body. I want to see Mr. Sinister as a villain, and he could be the reason why Cyclops wasn't anywhere at the Alkali Lake.

 

[taintedFB]

Agreed. And another thing...

Without his Scott & Jean obsession, what would Sinister really be after. What would his motivation be? And we'll never see Cable if he stays dead, either....

 

[Hugh'sMrs]

I'm not sure if I read it before the X3 came out or if the theatrical cut is different from the dvd. Anywho, I thought i had seen the Phoenix shot cyclops back with his own power. Was this cut from the dvd, or was this scene never shown in the theatrical cut?

In the unedited rough cut of the film Scott was disintegrated just like Xavier. It was cut from the final version because it was repetitive of the scene in Jean's house not because they wanted to leave his fate ambiguous.

 

[Bishop2]

In the unedited rough cut of the film Scott was disintegrated just like Xavier. It was cut from the final version because it was repetitive of the scene in Jean's house not because they wanted to leave his fate ambiguous.

How would you know any of this? How would you have seen an "unedited rough cut" of the film? How would you know why they cut it?

 

[Hugh'sMrs]

How would you know any of this? How would you have seen an "unedited rough cut" of the film? How would you know why they cut it?

Ex-squeeze me, I don't believe I said anything about actually seeing the unedited version of the film. Please don't credit me with making claims that I haven't. Thanks.

 

[taintedFB]

I know they didn't mean for it to be ambiguous. But it creates an opportunity for more talented writers to bring him back without resorting to actual resurrection.

 

[Bishop2]

Ex-squeeze me, I don't believe I said anything about actually seeing the unedited version of the film. Please don't credit me with making claims that I haven't. Thanks.

Okay, so... you don't actually have any evidence to back this up. Nevermind then.

 

[flavio_lebeau]

hmmm

 

[taintedFB]

Maybe Havok's intro can be him showing up at the mansion to find his long lost brother is dead. When he realizes there is no body he searches for Scott and finds him with Sinister...

Then we'd have the Summers Brothers!

 

[The Original Bamfer]

I despise the idea of Sinister being involved with Cyclops, or Jean.

 

[Neto Magnus]

I despise the idea of Sinister being involved with Cyclops, or Jean.

why?

 

[taintedFB]

Honestly, I don't know what the deal was with them. I just remember that storyline from the animated series when he kidnapped them both. The only reason I mention him is because he is the most feasible way to bring Cyclops back.