Daredevil reboot: official discussion thread - Part 2

[spideymouse]

How do you know what the 2-month deadline entails? AFAWK, the terms of the contract may dictate only that Fox has to have a working script, a producer and a director (it's already got all of those) by the deadline. As long as DD goes "into production" by that date, they can likely continue to add casting, sets and locations, rewrites, shoots and reshoots for as long as they feel like it.

As I understand it, Fox needs to start shooting the film by the deadline in October.

 

[Dark Raven]

Oooh... since he says, we would be pleased, that must mean FOX will give the rights up and MS will produce the movie.
No fan in his right mind would want FOX to screw up another CBM.

Hopefully what he means by "pleased" is that Fox keeps DD and Marvel gets Fantastic Four. That would be the ideal situation.

 

[cherokeesam]

Actually, looks like DD is dead in the water. Again.
Carnahan's latest tweets:

"Think my idea for a certain retro, red-suited, Serpico-styled superhero went up in smoke today kids. ... We shall see. Time is NOT on anyone's side."

https://***********/carnojoe

 

[Project862006]

thats upsetting a 70's retro serpico style DD sounds epic but we all know F4 is more of a priority right now at FOX

 

[spideyboy_1111]

thats upsetting a 70's retro serpico style DD sounds epic but we all know F4 is more of a priority right now at FOX

and even that is a loose "priority".... compared to XMFC2...

 

[MadVillainy]

Did he want to set it in the 70s or have it in the style of the 70s. Because Im against setting it in the 70s

 

[Project862006]

well when you name drop retro and say serpico which came out in 73 it might of been set there but curious why are you against it

worked fine for First Class

 

[Project862006]

i really dont want marvel to get DD back especially after hearing joe's take

70's style serpico take on DD sound very ambitious and thats the last word i associate with MS

but at the same time i can see why fox prioritizes F4 more

DD(03) did'nt even make 190 million WW while F4 made 330 million WW and even sequel made almsot 300 million WW

but just give DD a smaller budget if the town can be made for 37 million and joe's the grey made for 25 million DD on a 40-45 million budget would be great

 

[silenceKILLS]

I say, why not let Showtime or HBO or another cable channel that Disney owns, make a DD tv series as well as Punisher and other "dark and gritty" characters? DD will not have a film for years or maybe ever.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I say, why not let Showtime or HBO or another cable channel that Disney owns, make a DD tv series as well as Punisher and other "dark and gritty" characters? DD will not have a film for years or maybe ever.

Because ABC is their most adult channel

 

[Saitou Hajime]

The fact that Carnahan was talking about it so openly in Twitter was my first clue that nothing was ultimately going to pan out. Now while I'd prefer to get the champagne ready, I just know Fox is lying in wait to slap us silly with some eleventh hour *****ebaggery, so I remain vigilant.

 

[silenceKILLS]

Is it? Didn't know that. But still ... I'm sure if ABC did have DD on the network, I'm sure it would work. I mean Lost was dark at times and Now they have a sexy horror show in 666 Park Avenue. I'm sure gritty realness wouldn't be too much for them since the CW has Supernatural (gore) and now Arrow. I'm not sure how gory DD is, if any because I've only read 6 DD comics in my life. More Elektra fan than DD.

 

[ironmaidenrules]

DD can fit in just fine in the MCU. No reason to put him on a team.let him enjoy his dark solo adventures the type of stuff that is below the Avengers radar. Drop some Easter eggs in films like lawyer ads maybe have Murdock be a lawyer to one of the characters. He could show up as DD in an Avengers movie but that doesn't mean he joins the team.

 

[Project862006]

i really dont think marvel especially now with disney will do dark and gritty

jutthink fox is more mature and ambitous with

the wolverine film in a japan centric story with all asian cast
Prometheus
first class
now days of future past storyline for first class sequel

and even carnahan wanted to do a dark gritty serpico 70's style DD

just much more interesting and ambitious ideas coming from fox

 

[Project862006]

but at the end of the day if marvel gets it back fox has no one to blame but themselves they sat on this property for 8 years before they hired slade and had him on the project for 16 months with no movement thus making him leave to do other projects and now they want to go for it now with 2 months left till rights revert back

i want fox to keep it since i think they will do a DD i want to see but wont be sad if marvel gets it because it would be fox's own fault

 

[MadVillainy]

well when you name drop retro and say serpico which came out in 73 it might of been set there but curious why are you against it

worked fine for First Class

unlike first class, there is not point in making it in the 70s. I dont think it would enhance the film at all

EDIT: A Serpico inspired Punisher would excite me more than a Serpico DD. Althought I wouldnt want that to be set in the 70s either

 

[bapi]

Yeah, looks dead. Btw I told him that Joel Edgerton would be great Matt Murdock / Daredevil and after that Carnahan started to follow him on Twitter.

 

[Dark Raven]

I think it could be set in modern day but adopt 70s values or stylistic traits. Like make NY seem much more violent again, and although it isn't necessarily accurate now, have Guardian Angel-like vigilantes patrolling the graffiti-infested underground and crime escalating. They could always say that things have gone downhill in NY and back to the crime levels of the 70s and 80s.

That could be retro while still remaining in modern day. I don't think we need to see everyone in flared pants and disco outfits. That would be far too expensive for their budget anyway to recreate the 70s.

 

[kaijunexus]

Ah....Fox lets go of Daredevil in favor of concentrating on Fantastic Four. Wouldn't it be amazing if they ran into trouble with FF and ended up losing all of the non-XMen Marvel rights by next year?

...a man can dream...

 

[Dr Tactics]

Ah....Fox lets go of Daredevil in favor of concentrating on Fantastic Four. Wouldn't it be amazing if they ran into trouble with FF and ended up losing all of the non-XMen Marvel rights by next year?

...a man can dream...

Which that dream has a possibility to be a reality. They want Josh to start production on FF after XMDOFP is done shooting latter 2013 but Josh is committed to shooting the Red Star for WB at the same time. Based on calculations that Elektra started shooting on Aug 28 of 2007 so likely they have to start shooting by Aug 28 of 2014 (just a guess). The problems that arise are 1.) Josh has to shoot back to back movies with no break (directors don't like to do that especially if they have a family) and/or theres a delay in shooting for Red Star. So they may wait too late to get another director ala David Spade then it like Groundhog day. So then 2) they have to push the movie back release to 2015 and go against The Avengers 2 and hope Marvel doesn't fit another movie in there. Assuming Marvel stays on this roll they, Fox, already lost money on this movie. Two cosmic themed comic book films but one is following a failed thematic franchise (Fantastic Four) and A record breaking box office smash (The Avengers). Who do you think the GA is going see?

Fox need to quit while they're ahead but hey.. That's Fox for ya

 

[Project862006]

red star does'nt even have a writer lol red star is'nt happening just like venom is'nt happening

 

[Dr Tactics]

red star does'nt even have a writer lol red star is'nt happening just like venom is'nt happening

Sigh...

http://www.**************.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=64570
If it’s one thing Hollywood loves, its squeezing everything they can out of fresh new faces. Just think about at all the once-promising young actors and starlets or once hot directors that now couldn’t land a Lifetime movie. Unsurprisingly, Hollywood now has its eyes set on young directing sensation, Josh Trank. After releasing his hit sci-fi flick Chronicle to the tune of $123M at the box-office on a budget of a mere $15M, studios are literally falling over themselves to offer Trank all the comic book projects he can handle. In a span of of roughly 5 months after the February 3rd release date of Chronicle, Trank saw his name attached to the following projects:

- Venom (first reported March 6th) Sony -rumored
- The Red Star (confirmed March 20th) Warner Bros.
- Chronicle Sequel (first reported March 23) 20th Century Fox -rumored
- Shadow of the Colossus (confirmed May 23) Sony
- Fantastic Four (confirmed July 11) 20th Century Fox

It should be noted that script writer Max Landis has been frank in his assessment of Trank’s sudden popularity and concedes that Trank may not return to helm a Chronicle sequel but nothing's confirmed yet. One of the more concrete projects on that list is The Red Star which already has a tentative release date set for 2014. When Deadline announced that Trank had finally accepted directing duties on Fantastic Four, the thing that caught my eye was the statement that the Fantastic Four reboot was going to be fast tracked for production right after X-Men:First Class giving the film a production start date of approximately mid-late 2013. Perhaps this is a sign of some anxiety on Fox’s part. The property might be close, relatively speaking, to reverting back to Marvel Studios like Fox’s other Marvel property, Daredevil. The last Fantastic Four film came in 2007 and the last ‘Daredevil-esque’ film, Elektra, was released in 2005. If Daredevil doesn’t enter production by this Fall, film rights revert back to Marvel. A reasonable assumption would be that Fox brokered a similar deal for Fantastic Four, creating a similar 7-yr allowance between films and giving Fox until 2014 to get a Fantastic Four film into production. Hence, the sudden surge in Fantastic Four news.

An interesting thought to be sure but what I think is worth noting here is that Trank signed on to helm The Red Star for Warner Brothers first and that’s a project which already had someone working on the script. Originally, this was to be Trank’s next project before the Deadline report noted that Fox “expects Fantastic Four to be the next film Trank directs.” Why exactly they expect that was never made clear and while I’m not privy to what’s in Trank’s deal with Warner Bros., I would think a premiere studio like Warner would have enclosures that ensure that Trank adheres to a specific timeline for film production,and with a tentative release date set for 2014, that timeline would make it very hard to shoot a Fantastic Four film for a rival studio. The Red Star would need to have virtually a perfect production, no reshoots, no lengthy casting searches, or any of the other typical delays that normally occur in film production. To date, I’ve seen no reports that say that Red Star has been pushed or scrapped so things simply just don’t add up here.

And let’s not forget that two years ago, Fantastic Four was supposedly ramping up production with active negotiations taking place between several actors and directors. Its still very possible that Trank could direct but until there’s more solid news on this project, I for one, remain skeptical.

 

[Dark Raven]

Fox should get Edgar Wright to direct and write the FF movie. That way we know he'll deliver it on time before the deadline without any delays.

 

[ironmaidenrules]

fox should get edgar wright to direct and write the ff movie. That way we know he'll deliver it on time before the deadline without any delays.

zing

 

[Shazam]

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