Daredevil reboot: official discussion thread - Part 2

[kewlmatto]

Noooo! lol
Jeffery Donovan is Bullseye, look at that smile

Come to think of it, that's a good plan too.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

why not after 2 seasons of SHIELD, do 2 seasons of Heroes for Hire and just have Daredevil star in that.

Luke Cage
Iron Fist
Daredevil
The Punisher

now that would be a badass teamup. after the pilot, they could spend an episode on each individually before they team up.

 

[Dark Raven]

Noooo! lol
Jeffery Donovan is Bullseye, look at that smile

Jeffrey Donovan for Daredevil.
Michael C Hall for Bullseye!

t:

 

[Changeling]

My pitch:

I loved the idea of making Daredevil a 70s period piece set in Hell's Kitchen.

But I'd definitely want some neo-noir elements to the story, with a very distinct and stylized look to the city. Bright neon lights, streets covered in litter, broken windows and abandoned buildings, hookers, drug dealers and pimps on the street.

Im thinking the first 45 minutes should loosely adapt The Man Without Fear

I think the violence in Watchmen would be very well suited to a Daredevil movie but i dunno if we would get an R-rated Daredevil movie...

Directed and written by Rian Johnson

 

[TheVileOne]

I don't think it has to be set in the 1970's to get that dark, gritty 70's style or feel. I mean look at what Maleev and Bendis did with the title.

Plus the big benchmark and defining stories of Daredevil that change the game were in the 1980's.

I think Jeffrey Donovan is better suited for Bullseye or Deadpool.

 

[Changeling]

why not after 2 seasons of SHIELD, do 2 seasons of Heroes for Hire and just have Daredevil star in that.

Luke Cage
Iron Fist
Daredevil
The Punisher

now that would be a badass teamup. after the pilot, they could spend an episode on each individually before they team up.

Dude... thats an awesome idea. But I think Heroes for Hire + Daredevil and Punisher would be deserving of a movie, why limit those awesome characters to the budget of a tv show?

I agree with you thevileone, it would definitely still work, but I sort of like the idea of setting Daredevil up in his own universe (even though DD being part of the MCU would be awesome) because Hells Kitchen is in New York... where the Avengers was set. like if there was crazy crime going on in hells kitchen wouldnt any of the Avengers easily be able to stop it?

I guess you can just make him a street level hero, i like that idea. But really the 70s setting is just a preference, I think the character would really thrive in that setting, maybe even transcending the comic book genre if neo noir elements are added.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

I don't think it has to be set in the 1970's to get that dark, gritty 70's style or feel. I mean look at what Maleev and Bendis did with the title.

Plus the big benchmark and defining stories of Daredevil that change the game were in the 1980's.

I think Jeffrey Donovan is better suited for Bullseye or Deadpool.

Maybe it doesn't need to be. But it opens a whole new realm of the MCU. For instance, Captain America was around in the 1940s, which shows the beginning of SHIELD, Howard Stark, Hydra/Tesseract, etc. Then the rest is set in the 2010's and things may start to get overloaded. Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Ant-Man, etc.

Opening up the 70's for a hero like Daredevil allows for some middle ground between those two eras. I also feel like the Boxing aspect (Battlin Jack), the organized crime syndicates, and a few other things make a little more sense in the 1970's. Maybe I'm mistaken there... They could also do a bit about a young Nick Fury (as he grew up in Hell's Kitchen too)

 

[Changeling]

DUDE loving the young fury idea!!!! And youre right on with it setting up a whole new realm for the MCU too, the MCU is already like a timeline anyways, why not fill in more gaps?

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Dude... thats an awesome idea. But I think Heroes for Hire + Daredevil and Punisher would be deserving of a movie, why limit those awesome characters to the budget of a tv show?

Yeah, it's a shame really that we can't see more than a couple films a year. But I do understand to keep that quality we love it has to be spaced out.

I don't necessarily want low budget Heroes for Hire either. But you have to admit, of all the Marvel heroes, those are the type that could work with a low budget.

I mean, Punisher and Luke Cage don't need high budget SFX or costumes whatsoever.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

 

[Changeling]

Yeah, it's a shame really that we can't see more than a couple films a year. But I do understand to keep that quality we love it has to be spaced out.

I don't necessarily want low budget Heroes for Hire either. But you have to admit, of all the Marvel heroes, those are the type that could work with a low budget.

I mean, Punisher and Luke Cage don't need high budget SFX or costumes whatsoever.

I agree that their powers and costumes dont need a big budget, tv shows are usually limited to a few sets though, Id like to see those heroes going to lots of different places. I guess it just depends on the network its on. Thank god the new marvel show wont be on the CW hahaha

^that picture is awesome btw haha theyre just chillin

 

[cryptic name]

It could've worked. That kind of flirtation-through-fighting scene could've worked out, and I don't even entirely know why it doesn't. Something about the tone of it the way it ended up just...yeah, it's not good.

You could make it work very simply, set it at night with no one around and use less cheesey wire effects.

 

[cryptic name]

That sizzle reel was just...clips of old movies and the previous Daredevil franchise, and some generic comic book imagery. Not sure why people got excited about it. FOX was never going to make a DD film set in the 70's.

What was he supposed to do? I got a very strong feeling from the sizzle reel of what the movie he wanted to make could be and I would love to see the final product. And seeing as Fox just scored big with a reboot of one of their comic franchises set in the 60's, I see no reason why they wouldn't consider setting DD in the 70's.

 

[Changeling]

Agreed Cryptic name and the next X Men movie might be set in the 70s....

and the guard- thats what a sizzle reel is supposed to be its just supposed to give a very small taste of what someone is going for.

 

[Homer J. Fong]

You could make it work very simply, set it at night with no one around and use less cheesey wire effects.

True.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

why not after 2 seasons of SHIELD, do 2 seasons of Heroes for Hire and just have Daredevil star in that.

Luke Cage
Iron Fist
Daredevil
The Punisher

now that would be a badass teamup. after the pilot, they could spend an episode on each individually before they team up.

Maybe it doesn't need to be. But it opens a whole new realm of the MCU. For instance, Captain America was around in the 1940s, which shows the beginning of SHIELD, Howard Stark, Hydra/Tesseract, etc. Then the rest is set in the 2010's and things may start to get overloaded. Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Ant-Man, etc.

Opening up the 70's for a hero like Daredevil allows for some middle ground between those two eras. I also feel like the Boxing aspect (Battlin Jack), the organized crime syndicates, and a few other things make a little more sense in the 1970's. Maybe I'm mistaken there... They could also do a bit about a young Nick Fury (as he grew up in Hell's Kitchen too)

DUDE loving the young fury idea!!!! And youre right on with it setting up a whole new realm for the MCU too, the MCU is already like a timeline anyways, why not fill in more gaps?

If there is no Infinity Formula or slowed aging involved, we can assume Fury is roughly 55-65 years old in The Avengers. Putting him roughly in his 20s in the 1970s. SHIELD would've been established by this time and the subplot could deal with Fury's character learning of its existence and joining. A nice way to get Fury into a show and recast him without angering anyone. He could be portrayed as a young kid who looks up to the Heroes for Hire, explaining why he is so obsessed with the idea of the Avengers initiative.

Howard Stark would be in his 50s and Tony would've recently been born. John Slattery would be an amazing casting choice to reprise the role if they ever ran into him.

Daredevil is an amazing character but he's not a big hitter like the core four of the Avengers. He's just not as powerful as most of them. Thus, he would be hard to cram into the modern setting.

The Heroes for Hire... Luke Cage and Iron Fist specifically would be decent in our Avengers setting, but (in my opinion) better in a day since past. The two of them as well as the Punisher first appeared in the 70s and (without berating me with cries of IM, Thor and Hulk first appearing in the 60s) it would be a significant nod to their origins.

< he just looks so 1970s.

The Punisher can't be an Avenger. No way would Cap let him just start murdering people. But I think he could be portrayed appropriately in this type of gritty period. Not to mention Cage, Fury, Murdock and Castle all grew up within about a 10 mile radius of one another.

Then of course there can always be guest stars and future additions to the team, Moon Knight (first appearance also 70s) and Elektra are a couple of my choices. But of course you don't want to start taking from the pool of characters that would be suited toward the rest of the MCU and the big screen. What do you think?

 

[Hordakfan]

Since Buena Vista is gonna buy some Marvel characters like Daredevil, Punisher or whoever. I'd say we should have this reboot as a set-up for a potential Marvel Knights crossover movie like The Avengers with an appearance by The Punisher in the end.

 

[Dark Raven]

Any news on the actual rights reverting to Marvel? Oct 10 is just 2 1/2 weeks away. There doesn't seem to have been an official announcement from either Fox or Marvel on the matter.

 

[grout]

If there is no Infinity Formula or slowed aging involved, we can assume Fury is roughly 55-65 years old in The Avengers. Putting him roughly in his 20s in the 1970s. SHIELD would've been established by this time and the subplot could deal with Fury's character learning of its existence and joining. A nice way to get Fury into a show and recast him without angering anyone. He could be portrayed as a young kid who looks up to the Heroes for Hire, explaining why he is so obsessed with the idea of the Avengers initiative.

Howard Stark would be in his 50s and Tony would've recently been born. John Slattery would be an amazing casting choice to reprise the role if they ever ran into him.

Daredevil is an amazing character but he's not a big hitter like the core four of the Avengers. He's just not as powerful as most of them. Thus, he would be hard to cram into the modern setting.

The Heroes for Hire... Luke Cage and Iron Fist specifically would be decent in our Avengers setting, but (in my opinion) better in a day since past. The two of them as well as the Punisher first appeared in the 70s and (without berating me with cries of IM, Thor and Hulk first appearing in the 60s) it would be a significant nod to their origins.

< he just looks so 1970s.

The Punisher can't be an Avenger. No way would Cap let him just start murdering people. But I think he could be portrayed appropriately in this type of gritty period. Not to mention Cage, Fury, Murdock and Castle all grew up within about a 10 mile radius of one another.

Then of course there can always be guest stars and future additions to the team, Moon Knight (first appearance also 70s) and Elektra are a couple of my choices. But of course you don't want to start taking from the pool of characters that would be suited toward the rest of the MCU and the big screen. What do you think?

LOL yeah,, I dont see Punisher with the Avengers.. Punisher killed the marvel universe at one time.. Speaking of DD,, I vote Karl Urban as playing the role. I just watched him in Dredd and thought he would be a cool DD.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

So has there been any news regarding the film rights recently? I havent read or heard a peep.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

They probably don't want to announce the return of DD rights until they have some idea of what they are doing with him. It would be disappointing to fans to hear "We got DD back, but we aren't planning anything for him in the near future."

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

Since Buena Vista is gonna buy some Marvel characters like Daredevil, Punisher or whoever. I'd say we should have this reboot as a set-up for a potential Marvel Knights crossover movie like The Avengers with an appearance by The Punisher in the end.

i havent heard about this. can you link your source?

 

[hippie_hunter]

i havent heard about this. can you link your source?

Disney is not buying any characters. It's that characters like the Punisher and Daredevil have reverted to Marvel Entertainment.

 

[Mister Marvel]

Disney is not buying any characters. It's that characters like the Punisher and Daredevil have reverted to Marvel Entertainment.

Quoted for truth.

Disney bought Marvel back at the end of 2009. However, Marvel had previously licensed out movie rights to some of their characters to other studios. Disney has to abide by those contracts. So Disney can't use certain characters in movies until those movie rights revert.

 

[Rizor]

Whenever I see Damian Lewis in something I always think he'd make a great Matt Murdock. Just thought I'd put it out there. I searched the thread and saw no mentions of him.