Daredevil reboot: official discussion thread - Part 2

[hippie_hunter]

We will see i guess. I just think they're focused on now, and not later at the moment with that kinda thing. I think it's an incredibly smart move to create a production film for more dark/violent/drama filled characters and it really wouldn't shock me if we eventually get a Marvel Knights label for it.

It would be an incredibly smart move for companies that are not Disney to do that. You have to look at this in a business sense and not the sense of a fanboy. Yes, I would love to have a dark Daredevil film, but it makes no sense for Disney to invest in a failed label that goes against their corporate strategy.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Not everything MS does Is gold.They make changes too.Some people on this board need
to accept people like X-Men,X2,and First Class.And there are those who like First Class
better than Cap and Thor.

no one said it is.. but when FOX has an average of 2-great, 2 mediocre, and 5 bad films... of marvel comics properties... those arn't great odds. and people are allowed to be skeptical and dislike the studio because of it. And they continue to prove they're the studio we all think they are... especially with this new development.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

It would be an incredibly smart move for companies that are not Disney to do that. You have to look at this in a business sense and not the sense of a fanboy. Yes, I would love to have a dark Daredevil film, but it makes no sense for Disney to invest in a failed label that goes against their corporate strategy.

failed labels no... but the "type of film" has nothing to do with it. Personally... i think a "gang war", "midnight sons" , or "shadow land" team up of some of these failed characters would actually do very well.. by that logic.. marvel shouldn't want daredevil or fantastic four back either...

the failed characters might not do great in a solo film (ironic how many of the failed solo films also tend to fail at solo comics too...) but pair punisher up with daredevil... or Blade with Ghostrider... and you may actually make bank.

and no, it's not fanboy talking. I may love marvel.. but the marvel knights group ive never really cared much for.

 

[The /]

I hope the Daredevil rights go back to Marvel in October. Not because I think Marvel will do anything with Daredevil, because I don't, but because I would rather see the property sit on the shelf for awhile longer than see Fox rush a Daredevil film into production. That can only lead to no good. Marvel Studios seems to be only focusing on projects that they want to incorporate into the Avengers projects right now, though, so I would not expect them to get going on a Daredevil movie if the rights go back to them.

Another Daredevil movie should be made someday, but only when the script is right and it's done for the right reasons.

 

[marcvader]

I hope the Daredevil rights go back to Marvel in October. Not because I think Marvel will do anything with Daredevil, because I don't, but because I would rather see the property sit on the shelf for awhile longer than see Fox rush a Daredevil film into production. That can only lead to no good. Marvel Studios seems to be only focusing on projects that they want to incorporate into the Avengers projects right now, though, so I would not expect them to get going on a Daredevil movie if the rights go back to them.

Another Daredevil movie should be made someday, but only when the script is right and it's done for the right reasons.

I agree wholeheartedly.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I hope the Daredevil rights go back to Marvel in October. Not because I think Marvel will do anything with Daredevil, because I don't, but because I would rather see the property sit on the shelf for awhile longer than see Fox rush a Daredevil film into production. That can only lead to no good. Marvel Studios seems to be only focusing on projects that they want to incorporate into the Avengers projects right now, though, so I would not expect them to get going on a Daredevil movie if the rights go back to them.

Another Daredevil movie should be made someday, but only when the script is right and it's done for the right reasons.

I agree wholeheartedly.

you got your wish...

http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/looks-like-daredevil-will-go-back-to-marvel-and-disney/

 

[Raiden]

I hope the Daredevil rights go back to Marvel in October. Not because I think Marvel will do anything with Daredevil, because I don't, but because I would rather see the property sit on the shelf for awhile longer than see Fox rush a Daredevil film into production. That can only lead to no good. Marvel Studios seems to be only focusing on projects that they want to incorporate into the Avengers projects right now, though, so I would not expect them to get going on a Daredevil movie if the rights go back to them.

Another Daredevil movie should be made someday, but only when the script is right and it's done for the right reasons.

Yeah, if Fox is going to make DD movie right now, it would be try to rush the film out before the October deadline, and I don't want the movie to be ruined as a result of Fox's obsession about holding on to their Marvel movie rights. Fox did not do anything to reboot DD in the past 7 years, and they're only motivated down because the head honchos over at Fox just can't fathom parting with their rights, even though they'll be reverting back to their rightful owners.

 

[marcvader]

you got your wish...

http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/looks-like-daredevil-will-go-back-to-marvel-and-disney/

Yup. Just read this a few minutes ago. Beat me to it.t:

 

[Chewy]

Stick him in the TV show. Everyone wins.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Stick him in the TV show. Everyone wins.

that actually makes me wonder where the rights go with TV.. i mean... does fox just own the film rights to the fantastic four? they don't to the cartoons... so I wonder if marvel is allowed to use characters like the F4 and Spidey in the live action TV show?

 

[Jordacar]

Stick him in the TV show. Everyone wins.

I agree. Rather than further crowding their film slate, they can get a foothold in that other audio-visual medium where DD might be able to really thrive.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Anyone who thinks Disney will do a dark and gritty Daredevil are deluding themselves.Untill Avengers 3 In 2018 Marvel studios main Intrest In solely Avengers related films.Guardians of the galaxy Is likely being made to set up Thanos for Avengers 2.We might get Dr Strange In 2016 or 2017.

So bottom Line don't expect anything with Daredevil anytime soon.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Anyone who thinks Disney will do a dark and gritty Daredevil are deluding themselves.Untill Avengers 3 In 2018 Marvel studios main Intrest In solely Avengers related films.Guardians of the galaxy Is likely being made to set up Thanos for Avengers 2.We might get Dr Strange In 2016 or 2017.

So bottom Line don't expect anything with Daredevil anytime soon.

deluded or not.. the "avengers" film series has an eventual expiration date... and they're going to need more heroes to fill the void when they go on "break". The "universe" might not end.. but the frequency of Avengers/Hulk/Cap/Thor/Iron Man films will indeed slow down and eventually skip a few years. It'd be studio suicide to not explore other options and characters to fill the void left by the current roster

 

[hippie_hunter]

failed labels no... but the "type of film" has nothing to do with it. Personally... i think a "gang war", "midnight sons" , or "shadow land" team up of some of these failed characters would actually do very well.. by that logic.. marvel shouldn't want daredevil or fantastic four back either...

Except Daredevil and the Fantastic Four didn't bomb as hard as say the Punisher or Ghost Rider. There is potential with those films as franchises and the Fantastic Four fits perfectly with Disney's corporate strategy. Daredevil can work too, and it can be dark, just not Christopher Nolan dark the way a lot of people want it to be.

the failed characters might not do great in a solo film (ironic how many of the failed solo films also tend to fail at solo comics too...) but pair punisher up with daredevil... or Blade with Ghostrider... and you may actually make bank.

A Punisher/Daredevil movie would be awesome, but Blade and Ghost Rider, that sounds awful.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Your also assuming Marvel studios stops Iron Man,Cap,Thor,and Avengers at 3 films.They may not do that.It's more likely they do something with Namor before Daredevil or Punisher or Blade.If Sony does nothing again with Ghost rider by 2015 marvel may get Ghost rider back.They had to go Into production on SPirits of vengence In 2010 to keep rights.

The only thing you will be seeing from Daredevil anytime soon Is possable guest appearance on Marvel TV show.Same as Punisher and Blade.You might see Luke Cage before them.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Except Daredevil and the Fantastic Four didn't bomb as hard as say the Punisher or Ghost Rider. There is potential with those films as franchises and the Fantastic Four fits perfectly with Disney's corporate strategy. Daredevil can work too, and it can be dark, just not Christopher Nolan dark the way a lot of people want it to be.


A Punisher/Daredevil movie would be awesome, but Blade and Ghost Rider, that sounds awful.

well..... Blade and GR would be pretty awesome if you through in Dr. Strange with it... for a good old war on Dracula or Mephisto... or Lillith (a common enemy)

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Your also assuming Marvel studios stops Iron Man,Cap,Thor,and Avengers at 3 films.They may not do that.It's more likely they do something with Namor before Daredevil or Punisher or Blade.If Sony does nothing again with Ghost rider by 2015 marvel may get Ghost rider back.They had to go Into production on SPirits of vengence In 2010 to keep rights.

The only thing you will be seeing from Daredevil anytime soon Is possable guest appearance on Marvel TV show.Same as Punisher and Blade.You might see Luke Cage before them.

3 is a realistic number with anything though.. I don't for see them immidiately producing a recasted film within the usual 2-3 year time frame. And let's face it... some (like Iron Man) may get 4 movies... other's may only get 2..

Ant-Man will be marvel's first smaller film property.. so if it does well.. they may be open to more smaller films... like Luke Cage and Daredevil.

and I'd honestly take Namor right now over DD anyway

 

[The Batman]

Honestly, itd probably be best for DD not to look like a nolan ripoff. The current comic run shows that DD with a lighter tone can work.

 

[KenK]

Anyone who thinks Disney will do a dark and gritty Daredevil are deluding themselves.

I love how people insist on holding to this belief that just because Disney's involved Marvel couldn't do a dark and gritty Daredevil movie. Disney owns a number of other film production companies (Miramax, Hollywood, Touchstone), all of which have produced R-Rated films. The problem a lot of you guys seem to have is that you believe dark and gritty MUST equal R-Rated. Were any of Nolan's Batfilms rated R?

And even Disney themselves have put out some flicks folks would consider "dark". The Black Hole was bleak as hell!!

If Marvel as a studio wanted to do something dark and edgy with Daredevil, I doubt Disney would have any real issue, assuming they kept the budget low enough, which wouldn't be all that difficult with a character like Daredevil.

 

[Suzanne78]

Goodness, but it feels like we have a lot of Marvel/studio insiders posting here!

Actually, as much as I would've loved a Joe Carnahan-directed DD, I'm with the other posters who feel that DD resting for a longer time over at Marvel Studios might ultimately serve that franchise a little bit better. Or better yet, incorporating Matt Murdock/DD into a Marvel TV project or as an easter egg in another movie would work. I'm totally reboot-burned out, and I would like longer than a decade to pass, and for actual thought and effort to be put into a future DD movie.

 

[marvelrobbins]

You do relaze any property going back to Marvel will be rebooted.

Blade-anything done will be a reboot
Daredevil-If anything done will be a reboot
The Punisher-Anything done will be a reboot

If Marvel got Spider-Man It would be just another reboot.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

You do relaze any property going back to Marvel will be rebooted.

Blade-anything done will be a reboot
Daredevil-If anything done will be a reboot
The Punisher-Anything done will be a reboot

If Marvel got Spider-Man It would be just another reboot.

i honestly wouldn't be shocked if Spidey went back.. they figured out a way with sony's blessing to continue the franchise with what they started. (it wouldn't be the first time a cannon sequel was from a different studio)

nor would i be shocked if Thomas Jane eventually reprises his role as Frank Castle in a loosely based sequel .. the guy clearly still loves the punisher with his little indie short film he did of him.

 

[RaZaTrOn]

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[marcvader]

That's slick.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Carnahan's Daredevil would be the shot in the arm this genre needs post Avengers and Nolan. Oh well.