Daredevil reboot: official discussion thread - Part 2

[TheVileOne]

As glad as I am about this news...we still won't be getting a DD movie anytime soon.

Not such a bad thing since we clearly weren't getting one anytime soon here either.

To me this is good that Marvel controls the character again and will hopefully provide the best medium to use him again.

At least it means we can see Daredevil in animation again.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

True. I'm hoping that we get one announced in 2013 or so, as an upcoming project for marvel, but I doubt it.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

I didn't really see anything special about that sizzle reel.

 

[TheVileOne]

Maybe this could convince Marvel/Disney to set up some sort of Marvel Knights subline of darker, edgier movies or like TV shows. I'm not expecting anything right away but I'm excited by the prospect of Marvel getting another group of characters back.

 

[TheVileOne]

I didn't really see anything special about that sizzle reel.

I mean it uses audio of DeNiro from The Untouchables. Not sure I want that style for Daredevil either.

Now I mean I love Serpico and all but I don't want period movies just for the sake of period movies. I think the movie can still be set in the modern day but still have the tone, attitude, and style of these films.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Maybe this could convince Marvel/Disney to set up some sort of Marvel Knights subline of darker, edgier movies or like TV shows. I'm not expecting anything right away but I'm excited by the prospect of Marvel getting another group of characters back.

That would be something, and another alternative approach. Perhaps they should start expanding their brand to include other types of Superhero movies that don't necessarily build up The Avengers, especially considering that there are rumors of Marvel wanting to expand to 3 movies a year.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

I mean it uses audio of DeNiro from The Untouchables. Not sure I want that style for Daredevil either.

Now I mean I love Serpico and all but I don't want period movies just for the sake of period movies. I think the movie can still be set in the modern day but still have the tone, attitude, and style of these films.

I agree, maybe even they could have that 70's feel for Hell's Kitchen but still set it in modern day. I think that Fox has no problem with going retro with their CBMs after FC. Unfortunately, that's not something that works for every cbm.

 

[Incrediblejeff]

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I would've watched that.

 

[TheVileOne]

I agree, maybe even they could have that 70's feel for Hell's Kitchen but still set it in modern day. I think that Fox has no problem with going retro with their CBMs after FC. Unfortunately, that's not something that works for every cbm.

But First Class is still connected it not loosely to the other X-Men movies. It's still designed as a prequel of sorts. And the X-Men began in the 70's.

I just don't like Daredevil being in the 1970's. I mean the character has also been around since the 1960's too. Plus the big Daredevil stories from Miller and co. were really in the late 70's and mostly 80's anyway.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

But First Class is still connected it not loosely to the other X-Men movies. It's still designed as a prequel of sorts. And the X-Men began in the 70's.

I just don't like Daredevil being in the 1970's. I mean the character has also been around since the 1960's too. Plus the big Daredevil stories from Miller and co. were really in the late 70's and mostly 80's anyway.

Same here. It worked for FC, I hope my comment didn't make it seem like I was saying it didn't. But just because it worked for FC doesn't mean they should do it for DD. I'm not really pushing for a DD movie, but I hope it's going to be modern to fit within the MCU.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Not such a bad thing since we clearly weren't getting one anytime soon here either.

To me this is good that Marvel controls the character again and will hopefully provide the best medium to use him again.

At least it means we can see Daredevil in animation again.

we couldn't use him in animation? Fox sure let marvel use the X-men and Fantastic Four...

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I agree, maybe even they could have that 70's feel for Hell's Kitchen but still set it in modern day. .

i agree.. you can stylize a movie without it being in that time period (Kill Bill films are a great example) though.. i wouldn't want it that literal either.. but colors, maybe modernized examples of clothing (similar to what we see in fashion today drawing from the 50s and 60s)

 

[spideyboy_1111]

But First Class is still connected it not loosely to the other X-Men movies. It's still designed as a prequel of sorts. And the X-Men began in the 70's.

I just don't like Daredevil being in the 1970's. I mean the character has also been around since the 1960's too. Plus the big Daredevil stories from Miller and co. were really in the late 70's and mostly 80's anyway.

yea... 70s works better for Cage and Ironfist... but DD is much more 80s if we must do a time period film

 

[Saitou Hajime]

I don't get the period setting stuff either. The world of DD already exists in your average episode of Law and Order (which ironically is one of Matt's favorite shows).

 

[TheVileOne]

we couldn't use him in animation? Fox sure let marvel use the X-men and Fantastic Four...

Well Marvel has had the TV rights to X-Men and FF clearly for quite some time. With Daredevil, dunno not sure. Considering we haven't really seen Daredevil in TV anywhere for years I'm thinking maybe Fox had those as well. We know Sony had the TV rights for Spider-Man up to Spectacular Spider-Man after which the TV rights went back to Marvel.

 

[TheVileOne]

I don't get the period setting stuff either. The world of DD already exists in your average episode of Law and Order (which ironically is one of Matt's favorite shows).

I think people are enticed by the idea of Daredevil being associated with the revolutionary crime, mobster, and crime drama movies of the 1970's. In that time movies were becoming edgier, darker, and more violent than ever before. And since Daredevil was switched to a more noir, seedier crime drama type of material back in the 1980's it would appear to be a perfect fit on the surface.

But like I said the big Frank Miller stories like Born Again all happened in the 1980's.

But yeah I agree doing a jazzy exploitation 1970's style story would fit better for like Iron Fist and Luke Cage. I mean both those characters were created in the 1970's. So they in many ways are products of it. But at the same time I'd rather see Iron Fist and Luke Cage in today's MCU even in a TV show. Like a Heroes for Hire TV show could be a lot of fun seeing a superhero business start-up and how amusing that could be with the economy the way it is. And the sense that now the world knows about the Avengers, they are the big leagues while the Heroes for Hire would be like the B-guys but even though they are like the b-team they still get the job done and can help people.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Well Marvel has had the TV rights to X-Men and FF clearly for quite some time. With Daredevil, dunno not sure. Considering we haven't really seen Daredevil in TV anywhere for years I'm thinking maybe Fox had those as well. We know Sony had the TV rights for Spider-Man up to Spectacular Spider-Man after which the TV rights went back to Marvel.

Sony having Spidey TV was the only TV right's i've heard of... but marvel had X-men Evolution, Cartoon Networks F4, Wolverine and the X-men, and both x-men and F4 have appeared in Earth's Mightiest Heroes... so i assume animation rights have always been with marvel

as for DD, i'd assume the same as well.. but we haven't seen him since the 90s in the spidey cartoon anyway... hell, to be honest.. I think he's usually marketed as a Spidey Allie to children for the most part... In Toys, Games, and Animation over the last 30 years.

 

[cherokeesam]

she's wrong though.. elektra was part of the DD deal.. which is why the rights were up this year, and not a few years ago

Yeah, I'm going to have to call complete B.S. on her comment that Elektra isn't part of the package. a) it's been 7 years since the Elektra movie; b) there's been absolutely NO move to make a sequel; and c) Elektra IS part of the Daredevil mythos, and was created specifically for it, just like Bullseye, The Owl, The Purple Man, Karen Page and Foggy Freakin' Nelson.

 

[echostation]

I'd LOVE to see Carnahan do period piece on Daredevil like a 70s set New York based Daredevil... I think it would be awesome! A mix of hard core action film with the French Connection...

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I'd LOVE to see Carnahan do period piece on Daredevil like a 70s set New York based Daredevil... I think it would be awesome! A mix of hard core action film with the French Connection...

except DD's not really associated with the 70s, that's more luke cage and ironfist... DD's most famous stories and style was 80s under frank miller

 

[cherokeesam]

except DD's not really associated with the 70s, that's more luke cage and ironfist... DD's most famous stories and style was 80s under frank miller

Speak for yourself.

As a pre-teen, I was avidly collecting ol' Hornhead back in the 70s, and I still love to re-read 'em from time to time. Back then, it was Daredevil AND Black Widow as co-headliners, so if Carnahan wanted to be really authentic....

 

[TheVileOne]

Yeah but at that time Daredevil was a more lighthearted, traditional type of superhero comic.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Speak for yourself.

As a pre-teen, I was avidly collecting ol' Hornhead back in the 70s, and I still love to re-read 'em from time to time. Back then, it was Daredevil AND Black Widow as co-headliners, so if Carnahan wanted to be really authentic....

lol, hey now... i still want Elektra and Typhoid mary done right...........

there's really no reason Elektra can't be the newest and best female action hero since Angelina Jolie, Ellen Ripley and Sarah Connor....

hell.. make Angie play her and we will probably already give her a giant boost in popularity

 

[rayc1971]

im glad fox lost daredevil maybe we can get a better movie from marvel studio.so fox now only have xmen and fantastic four superhero properties to screw up.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Yeah but at that time Daredevil was a more lighthearted, traditional type of superhero comic.

fighting The Ring Master and Stiltman!!!