Dark Avengers: Ares

[Tropico]

You know what? It looks like the thread for "stupid" questions might merit a change of title to intelligent questions. It's the threads that people make that ask stupid questions.

Ares in Wiki.
Ares at Marvel.com.
Ares at Spider Bob.
Ares RPG stats.

 

[Eros]

Its odd in mythology, Ares had vast magical abilites, but the marvel U reimagines the greek "gods" [most of them anyway] as just a race of really strong people.

 

[Roughneck]

Would he be stringer than Herc? Cause Ares is all god and Herc is half god........

 

[Parker]

Would he be stringer than Herc? Cause Ares is all god and Herc is half god........

Stronger? No way. That's Herc's whole gimmick, the god of strength.

 

[kytrigger]

Stronger? No way. That's Herc's whole gimmick, the god of strength.

Well, he is probably stronger than Hercules now, since Herc sin't a god anymore and much weaker.

 

[Parker]

Whenever I don't know what I'm talking about, and I don't in the case of Marvel's Olympian gods, I've always gotta side with Wikipedia.

Hercules' primary power is his superhuman physical strength. Hercules is physically the strongest of all Olympians. He once lifted and hurled a giant Sequoia tree.[citation needed] While the limits of Hercules' strength have never been measured, he is strong enough to stand toe to toe with Thor (Thor Annual #1, 1965) and an enraged Hulk (Tales To Astonish #79, 1966).

Since Zeus's punishment (marked by a "lightning bolt" tattoo on Hercules's shoulder), he has reverted to his original, ancient strength level.[citation needed] Another result of this is that Hercules is no longer an immortal, aging just as ordinary humans do. At his full godly power, Hercules is functionally immortal, as are other Olympians. Hercules is immune to all known diseases, and cannot die under conventional circumstances, at least before Zeus's punishment. Hercules' body is highly resistant to physical injury and has withstood the impact of high caliber machine gun shells, falls from tremendous heights, exposure to temperature extremes and powerful energy blasts without sustaining injury. It took two point-blank blasts from the god Michael Korvac to bring Hercules to the point of death, although he was revived with the other fallen Avengers by a dying Korvac in Avengers volume 1, #177. Hercules currently possesses his full godly powers and abilities.

 

[Roughneck]

Since when is Her the god of Strenth?

 

[Red]

He is, and inspite of what Bendis may claim, in a fight Ares wouldn't stand a chance against Herc, let alone Thor.

 

[Purple Man]

He's the god of war. Where his physical might lacks, he would make up for in strategy. I think the only chance Thor would really have is if he were in the moral right and was fighting for something more important than a contest of strength.

 

[Harlekin]

Because y'know, Thor isn't a sound tactician and strategist at all. 1000 years of experience don't account for anything.

 

[ibsisomis]

Thanks guys, I couldn't get the wikipedia to work for me. I actually went there first and it didn't work. But thanks Trop and you other guys I apprciate it. Can you guys see maybe a thor and ares stand off when thor returns? I can see it.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I wouldn't be surprised if Thor and Ares fought again, now that both are coming into the spotlight a bit more. I imagine a current Thor/Ares fight would go down a lot differently from the older ones (in which Thor and Hercules did indeed kick Ares' ass all over the place pretty consistently). Thor looks like he's going to be losing some power in JMS' relaunch, and Ares seems to have gained some badassery thanks to Oeming's re-imagining of him in his recent mini.

 

[Fantasyartist]

Ares induction into the Avengers makes no(expletive deleted) sense. If berserker rage and ferocious killer instincts are the reason, then Wolverine could easily match him. Also if brute force is the rationale, then it's hard to see how the God of War could exceed Thor or the Prince of Power, Hercules( don't even get me started on the Hulk!), also Thor is a God of War as well of Thunder!
No, I really don't see what Ares could bring to the team- he's only there because Iron Man threatened to expel him from the US( what happened to the tradition that an alien couldn't be deported if it worked hardship on a US citizen?) if he didn't register under the terms of the SHRA) Anybody think along these lines

Terry

 

[chris moore]

To be fair, none of the Wolverines or the Thors out there were for the registration act. Just cos they've signed under the amnesty extended to all heroes, doesnt mean they are going to sign onto anything Stark has anything to do with. Course, if the point of the SHRA was in part to prevent civilian casualties and needless deaths and property damage, then having a gun toting russian spy and an axe wielding greek mythical manica slicing everything in sight on the team really shows the public that they're safe and have good role models to look up to. WHOO HOO Stark - good one...

Brevoort has said that as it stands, you register, you're evaluated, then if you want, you can be on one of the initiative teams under SHIELD guidelines and pay, or you can get your licence to be a freelance hero. Betcha all the anti's (except possibly the FF who are likely to work with the Mighty Avengers and other Stark people willingly when situation demands it) are going to stick to being loners.

 

[Tropico]

Ares induction into the Avengers makes no(expletive deleted) sense. If berserker rage and ferocious killer instincts are the reason, then Wolverine could easily match him. Also if brute force is the rationale, then it's hard to see how the God of War could exceed Thor or the Prince of Power, Hercules( don't even get me started on the Hulk!), also Thor is a God of War as well of Thunder!
No, I really don't see what Ares could bring to the team- he's only there because Iron Man threatened to expel him from the US( what happened to the tradition that an alien couldn't be deported if it worked hardship on a US citizen?) if he didn't register under the terms of the SHRA) Anybody think along these lines

Terry

I thought the comic explained pretty clearly WHY they recruited him. He has Thor level muscle combined with Wolverine's lack of inhibitions about killing. Thor, although being a warrior god, is more honorable and not as prone to killing. I'm getting the impression that Thor is going to be too busy in his own title when he comes back to be part of other teams, at least for a while. Wolverine is part of the New Avengers, he's unavailable to Mighty. People focus too much on what Tony threatened Ares with and they seem to forget that he got what he wanted: a high paying job and a way to stay in the US with his kid. Realistically, he could've gone to Canada or somewhere else if he wanted, it's not like the US is the only place on Earth.

What's disappointing to me (and I bet is a delight to others) is that apparently now the "stone cold killer" is part of the team formula. I know, I know, many of you will say that it's more realistic and that there are situations where killing is necessary. But, heroism was about not having to "go there". I guess the functional word here is "was". More and more I think about calling this characters super-people and not super-HEROES.

 

[chris moore]

Whats bordering on stupid is that Ares wanted his son to have a normal mortal upbringing - so he trades construction worker for living and working with superpowered, monster battling, unlimited funding people. Yeah - thats a great deal different from Olympus

 

[Artistsean]

What I would like to see is Thor return and have a battle with Ares.
Tony mentions that Thor was the greatest Avenger, and he was as powerful as Ares just more noble. I would like to see that fight.

Also I would like to see Hercules' interaction with his brother, who is on the Pro side while I think Herc would still be on the Anti side and possibly a rebel.

 

[gildea]

Ares induction into the Avengers makes no(expletive deleted) sense. If berserker rage and ferocious killer instincts are the reason, then Wolverine could easily match him.

Wolverine is part of the rebellion in new avengers and thus can't be in the mighty avengers

Also if brute force is the rationale, then it's hard to see how the God of War could exceed Thor or the Prince of Power, Hercules( don't even get me started on the Hulk!), also Thor is a God of War as well of Thunder!

Thor is dead.

Hercules was anti and I'm not sure what happened to him after CW but it's unlikely stark would want him due to his following of cap.

Hulk is on another planet currently.

No, I really don't see what Ares could bring to the team
Terry

He brings strength and aggression which you have highlighted above so obviously know what he DOES bring, Your counter argument isn't that he doesn't bring something to the team that other people couldn't bring but the examples you give are of people who are in no position to be on the mighty avengers roster.

So thats why he's on the team

 

[Bishop2]

Thor is dead.

He appears to be roaming Oklahoma or something at this point. Not that anyone else knows that.

Hulk is on another planet currently.

On his way back now I believe, and probably preparing to kill everyone who shot him into space - Tony and Reed are on that short list.

 

[Red]

I thought the comic explained pretty clearly WHY they recruited him. He has Thor level muscle combined with Wolverine's lack of inhibitions about killing. Thor, although being a warrior god, is more honorable and not as prone to killing. I'm getting the impression that Thor is going to be too busy in his own title when he comes back to be part of other teams, at least for a while. Wolverine is part of the New Avengers, he's unavailable to Mighty. People focus too much on what Tony threatened Ares with and they seem to forget that he got what he wanted: a high paying job and a way to stay in the US with his kid. Realistically, he could've gone to Canada or somewhere else if he wanted, it's not like the US is the only place on Earth.

What's disappointing to me (and I bet is a delight to others) is that apparently now the "stone cold killer" is part of the team formula. I know, I know, many of you will say that it's more realistic and that there are situations where killing is necessary. But, heroism was about not having to "go there". I guess the functional word here is "was". More and more I think about calling this characters super-people and not super-HEROES.

But he doen't he's probaly around Wonder Man's strength range.

 

[Kaboom]

but he is the g-d of war........
hes like the best strategist ever

 

[Harlekin]

Repeat after me: Not every one of my random thoughts need to be made into a thread. There's "official" threads for stuff like this.

 

[Darthphere]

I think someone just skipped over all those annoying words in the comic.

 

[Kaboom]

Repeat after me: Not every one of my random thoughts need to be made into a thread. There's "official" threads for stuff like this.

lol

I think someone just skipped over all those annoying words in the comic.

double lol

 

[Purple Man]

And in Brian Bendis fashion, you can't just think about what Ares will bring to the Avengers, but what the Avengers will bring to Ares.

Exposure. Like Sentry and Echo, throwing one of these modern day creations on Marvels greatest super team may be the deciding factor on whether or not they're remembered in ten years.

I applaud Bendis for his effort. I'd hate to see what would happen to the Sentry or Echo if he didn't put them on the Avengers.

Can anyone say "fade into obscurity"?