Deadpool Deadpool News and Discussion - Part 2

[CyclopsWasRight]

That's what all the FFINO defenders said too.

I was there and no they didn't. We hoped it would be good, we had optimism but no one had made up their minds definitively before release, aside from those who decided to hate it since it was announced.

Sounds like Millers an X-23 fan. They need to get this guy on X-Force.

...also look like he confirms that Fox can't use Taskmaster

X-23 would be awesome.

Would be ideal actually if Wolverine 3 had him return to Weapon X to find they cloned him and find and free her.
Without Wolverine her clone backstory would be hard to get on screen. They could simplify things and have her as a Weapon X victim given Adamantium and claws to emulate Wolverine

This film deserves all the support it can get.

If it doesn't do good it doesn't spell good things for future R-Rated Marvel movies and unfortunately would tell executives there's no benefit in going more faithful since it didn't equal bucks.

Deadpool has a fraction of the budget that DOFP had and yet the CGI on Colossus looks way better.

Well Days of Future Past had 20 times the amount of CGI needs than this movie

Yeah, it's a real shame he isn't dressed like a drag queen.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

Colossus' other features take precedence over his costume, unlike the other characters where the costume denotes most of their aesthetic personality.

Nah, it's the same with other characters.

Hugh Jackman has NEVER needed yellow spandex or a mask to embody Wolverine but when he's on screen, he completely owns the role, like no other. Logan's other features such as his claws, his hair and his cigar are FAR more important to establishing his identity than his costume.

The X-Men have never been associated with their uniforms, which in of themselves have vastly differed throughout the decades.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

To add to my previous post, Deadpool is an exception, where his look is definitely synonymous to his identity and has remained the same since his inception. Just like Spider-Man, his identity is closely defined by his costume.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

If you are appealing only to performances, then that's an more of a losing argument. Because apart from Jackman, Sir Ian and Patrick Stewart, the OT cast is uniformly unmemorable. They come up dull both aesthetically and acting/character-wise. No way outs.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

If you are appealing only to performances, then that's an more of a losing argument. Because apart from Jackman, Sir Ian and Patrick Stewart, the OT cast is uniformly unmemorable. They come up dull both aesthetically and acting/character-wise. No way outs.

It's not just Jackman's performance but his look as well. When he's on screen, your LOOKING at Wolverine. No question about that and he's never needed a bright superhero costume to accomplish that.

Most of the time, it's just a wife beater.

Also, I disagree about the rest of the OT being unmemorable. Nightcrawler was perfect both in appearance and performance, as was the original Mystique and even Beast. Again, same principle as Jackman. Little to do with their costumes (or lack of).

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Miller on Colossus...

"he’s just so visually impressive and you know, when you’re a comic book reader, the writing’s important, but also you want these incredible looking characters and action and I always loved him from my early days collecting comics......and to do it as sort of a normal-size guy didn't seem to fit the character, and more importantly I think we got a lot of value out of him being larger than life and, you know, this fantastic physical presence"

He gets it.t:

Still, in spite of his looks, I will miss Bryan Singer's nuanced and in depth portrayal of Colossus' character, together with Cudmore's singular, seminal performance.

In a way. Cudmore's performance as Peter reminds me of Leo Dicaprio in the Revenant. Both conveyed such raw bursts of emotion and wore the sheer personification of will power while saying less than 10 lines.

 

[I Am The Knight]

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

If you are appealing only to performances, then that's an more of a losing argument. Because apart from Jackman, Sir Ian and Patrick Stewart, the OT cast is uniformly unmemorable. They come up dull both aesthetically and acting/character-wise. No way outs.

Nightcrawler and Mystique were memorable and people loved Fraiser as Beast. Jean and Storm were servicable.

It's not just Jackman's performance but his look as well. When he's on screen, your LOOKING at Wolverine. No question about that and he's never needed a bright superhero costume to accomplish that.

Agreed.

 

[craigaat]

I think a lot of comic book fans are a bit too precious when it comes to how their favourite characters look on screen, but they should be more concerned about the performance. It's really only a very small part of the character. As Scarlet Spider mentioned Hugh Jackman - he's about a foot taller than the character he's portaying, but it doesn't matter because the performance is so good. It's a bonus when the characters look faithful but it's definitely not the most important aspect.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Bingo.

Having both is fantastic (and rare) but Quality always trumps Accuracy.

ASM2 had THE most accurate and fantastic costume but in the end it didn't matter as the movie was lacking in quality.

 

[JtheDreamer]

I think a lot of comic book fans are a bit too precious when it comes to how their favourite characters look on screen, but they should be more concerned about the performance. It's really only a very small part of the character. As Scarlet Spider mentioned Hugh Jackman - he's about a foot taller than the character he's portaying, but it doesn't matter because the performance is so good. It's a bonus when the characters look faithful but it's definitely not the most important aspect.

Sorry, but the look is iconic as the performance. It's why they're trademarked.

 

[craigaat]

Don't get me wrong, the way characters look is the reason a lot of us started reading comics in the first place.

I thought this was the coolest thing in the world when I was a kid, but you put that on the big screen and it would look stupid as hell.

 

[JtheDreamer]

I thought this was the coolest thing in the world when I was a kid, but you put that on the big screen and it would look stupid as hell.

Ya, but that doesn't mean you do the complete opposite and make him wear uniform leather gear like a team. There's a way of staying near comic book faithful and also toning down certain aspects.

 

[craigaat]

Sorry, but the look is iconic as the performance. It's why they're trademarked.

Bane looked more comic-accurate in Batman & Robin than he did in TDKR. If you think that the former is more "iconic" in any way, you are seriously deluded.

 

[craigaat]

Ya, but that doesn't mean you do the complete opposite and make him wear team uniform leather gear like a team. There's a way of staying near comic book faithful and also toning down certain aspects.

I didn't say that though. Singer's Cyclops was terribly written anyway. Nothing to do with leather.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Bane looked more comic-accurate in Batman & Robin than he did in TDKR. If you think that the former is more "iconic" in any way, you are seriously deluded.

For another example Daredevils Netflix costume was more tactical with armoured plates and buckles and such and thus wasn't as accurate as the movie version yet there's no contest on which is of higher quality.

 

[Flint Marko]

I thought this was the coolest thing in the world when I was a kid, but you put that on the big screen and it would look stupid as hell.

No, it wouldn't. What looks "stupid as hell" is sticking to the lame black leather matrix outfits that deliberately look nothing like the source material when we have so many cinematic superheroes that look like their comic book counterparts. It's been over a decade since the first X-men movies and they still shy away from looking like the comic book X-men. It's pathetic at this point.

 

[Broseph44]

I said it yesterday but god damn amazing trailer. So ****ing funny I keep watching it over and over. I've been so excited for this film, the R rating is perfect. This literally looks like the best adapted comic where it's from page to screen with all its elements. Perfection.

And we all know how long Reynolds wanted this to happen and how perfect he is for the role. And I am so happy he's getting the chance to do it right. He is to Deadpool what Jackman and Downey were/are to Wolverine and Stark/Iron Man honestly

 

[Slushy]

My wife got me this shirt for Christmas:

 

[Mad Ones]

No, it wouldn't. What looks "stupid as hell" is sticking to the lame black leather matrix outfits that deliberately look nothing like the source material when we have so many cinematic superheroes that look like their comic book counterparts. It's been over a decade since the first X-men movies and they still shy away from looking like the comic book X-men. It's pathetic at this point.

The X-men wearing campy and colourful costumes doesn't even make sense in the comics. They're either fighting hate crimes or are at the edge of extinction. Bright blues and yellows (not to mention the unnecessary belts and underwear on the outside that you think wouldn't look stupid) don't match that tone and the movies know it.

 

[Dave McFly]

I have that one so wearing it in Feb

 

[Slushy]

Marvel Studios would do it, but the costumes would be metallic instead of spandex. Its a visual improvement by a milefold.

 

[First Avenger]

Sounds like Miller knows his stuff. Would be interesting to see his take on X-Men. Colossus looks awesome.

 

[TeeKay]

Still, in spite of his looks, I will miss Bryan Singer's nuanced and in depth portrayal of Colossus' character, together with Cudmore's singular, seminal performance.

In a way. Cudmore's performance as Peter reminds me of Leo Dicaprio in the Revenant. Both conveyed such raw bursts of emotion and wore the sheer personification of will power while saying less than 10 lines.

For another example Daredevils Netflix costume was more tactical with armoured plates and buckles and such and thus wasn't as accurate as the movie version yet there's no contest on which is of higher quality.

Yes and yet it still looks close to the source. Not everyone was inlove wiyh the Netflix DD costume anyways. Had a mixed response. However, you can still recognize that he's daredevil. Can you say the same with about 90% of the X-Men?

I was there and no they didn't. We hoped it would be good, we had optimism but no one had made up their minds definitively before release, aside from those who decided to hate it since it was announced.

You said Doom was gonna end up being better than most MCU villains.

Well Days of Future Past had 20 times the amount of CGI needs than this movie.

Yeah and so?

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

I have that one so wearing it in Feb

Nice