Deadpool Deadpool News and Discussion - Part 4

[Rowsdower!]

I say they compromise.

NICOLAS CAGE IT IS!

 

[JEM]

Liam Nisson is like Stephen Lang, a boring choice and too old. Kyle Chandler is an interesting and he is only 50.

That being said, people overacting with this casting process. Director and Studio having some conflicts with a casting is normal in blockbuster world and i am sure you have such discussions with Disney, Paramout, Wb. Not for the same reason but casting lead actor is a very long procedure in hollywood. I remember Spidey-Man casting was VERY long.

Except Cameron, Nolan and Spielberg, i don't know many director with 100 % liberties.

IMO, they don't need a star and Nesson want to quit action movie soon. I would not be surprised if they want Tom Hardy but he probably not interested. I don't see Miller cast someone he don't like. They will find a compromise.

 

[def28]

Tom Hardy and Karl Urban were my first choices.

There's literally nothing to talk about with Deadpool 2 so I hardly think this is overreacting. We all want the creative team to get who they think is best, not the studio who didn't even have faith in these characters till about a year ago. Doesn't matter if this happens all the time, I don't think that will change the discussion.

 

[LoganGambit87]

i dont think you need a big name for cable they made nearly 800 million WW without china with just ryan reynolds

but i get it what will create more buzz kyle chanler or liam neeson

and creating buzz is a good thing

 

[def28]

What Fox doesn't need with this property though is that they are already going against the director. That will be bad buzz.

Most this films marketing is done through social media and it's a highly self aware property. I'm sure reactions are already being taken in. The movie itself was greenlit based off online reaction.

 

[Nathan]

While a name can create buzz, they don't need it. They just need to do what they did with the first Movie. Get completely free reign for the marketing campaign.

 

[LoganGambit87]

wow you are blowing this way bigger than it is first of all this is all rumor as of now and chandler could of passed for all we know

this happens with every movie studios,producers,directors all have their choices they like

there is no feud between director and studio here

for example chris evans wasn't the directors top choice for captain america

 

[def28]

Dude relax.

Nobody is making this some insane huge deal other then yourself, we all realize this is a what if scenario. Just not everyone agrees with you. Fox did let them have creative control on a budget last time. It wasn't them going we want these characters in and these characters out or anything. Creatively they let the team do what they want...on a budget. One of the biggest fears of this sequel with fans has been that Fox will want more control now that this is their top selling X-Men IP. Cause suddenly an IP that had barely any interest with them is now their main money maker. Deals and interests have changed from last year.

Again, regardless of how often casting conflicts happens or not that won't change conversations and or opinions.

 

[Web-Head]

Tom Hardy and Karl Urban were my first choices.

There's literally nothing to talk about with Deadpool 2 so I hardly think this is overreacting. We all want the creative team to get who they think is best, not the studio who didn't even have faith in these characters till about a year ago. Doesn't matter if this happens all the time, I don't think that will change the discussion.

Urban would have been a good choice. Him being in Thor 3 probably rules him out though.

 

[JEM]

Tom Hardy and Karl Urban were my first choices.

There's literally nothing to talk about with Deadpool 2 so I hardly think this is overreacting. We all want the creative team to get who they think is best, not the studio who didn't even have faith in these characters till about a year ago. Doesn't matter if this happens all the time, I don't think that will change the discussion.

It is little overreacting when it is a natural process in casting decision. I don't particularly want Liam Nesson but i can't deny he is one of fan favorite for Cable with Stephan Lang and Ron Perlman (too old). He is in every top best actors to play Cable in internet. El Mayimbe posted a manip with Nesson and the reponses were very positive.

So i can't understand why they want him while i am not fan. He is a A list actor and some fans wants him like Benedict Cumberbatch (Strange), Christian Bale (Batman), Brie Larson (Captain Marvel). Anyway, Nesson want to quit action movie and Miller don't like him.

If Cable was in Deadpool, Fox would have been very involved. He isn't a supporting character but an A-list mutant and he could have a crucial role in X-Men Universe. So, Cable casting could be a very long procedure but it isn't a bad thing. Kyle Chandler or not, Miller will probably cast someone he likes.

My pick: Joel Edgerton, 42 years old

 

[marvelrobbins]

Thing Is Cable according to report from past is being groomed to be the wolverine type lead for X-force.Deadpool II is a stepping stone to it.if rumors are true about X-23 in wolverine film that film too may be leading into X-force.

From the source people should be a little skeptical of reports fox wants a bigger star for cable.still fox should just let Miller cast who he wants.studio interfence never goes well.rather it be fox actions under rothamn on last stand and origins,and present fox trying to change FF after they panacked or WB's action on surcide squad.

 

[def28]

If Cable was in Deadpool, Fox would have been very involved.He isn't a supporting character but an A-list mutant and he could have a crucial role in X-Men Universe. So, Cable casting could be a very long procedure but it isn't a bad thing. Kyle Chandler or not, Miller will probably cast someone he likes.

Disagree with this. Cause even if Deadpool only made $250m and no X-Force film was being made Cable was still gonna be here, as a costar to Deadpool. If Fox knew Cable was an A list money maker on screen, then X-Force, a Cable solo, Cable Deadpool and previous X-Men films would have been released with him quite sometime ago. This is almost a 17 year old franchise and they have had time. Instead they canceled X-Foce years ago in favor of Apocalypse. Without trying to make things work together. I don't doubt someone like Donner is aware, but not the higher ups. And why should the higher ups have known back then, their job prerequisite is not to be a geek. Here's what the higher ups do know, buzz words and money. Cable, X-Force and Deadpool are now all those things in this studios eyes. That wasn't the case long ago.

Fox didn't know what was up till very recently when people on the internet started talking about X-Force and the reaction of his name in Deadpool. Fox didn't even know Deapdool a character who has sold and trended more then a majority of Marvel characters for quite sometime who is far and I mean far more popular then Cable should get his own movie. It took years of convincing. Fox knew Reynoldswas good for the role, and most of the X-Men casting is fantastic and not based off star power. That happens later.

Everything is not the same as last year in terms of studio interest for this property. That just isn't possible with the amount of money this made for the studio, and IF (with heavy emphasis) those rumors are true and Fox already passed on Tim Millers choice likely before any heavy screen tests even happened then yeah, that's disappointing. And not exactly the first piece of news I or I'm sure many fans would like to hear after this creative team just made Deadpool their most profitable property.

 

[terry78]

It's not gonna be any of these fanboy faves, I can pretty much guarantee that. It will be some actor none of you suspected and half of you will at first be like, "I don't see it." Right now you're just picking dudes who have done action before and look like square jawed hero types.

 

[JEM]

Disagree with this. Cause even if Deadpool only made $250m and no X-Force film was being made Cable was still gonna be here, as a costar to Deadpool. If Fox knew Cable was an A list money maker on screen, then X-Force, a Cable solo, Cable Deadpool and previous X-Men films would have been released with him quite sometime ago. This is almost a 17 year old franchise and they have had time. Instead they canceled X-Foce years ago in favor of Apocalypse. Without trying to make things work together. I don't doubt someone like Donner is aware, but not the higher ups. And why should the higher ups have known back then, their job prerequisite is not to be a geek. Here's what the higher ups do know, buzz words and money. Cable, X-Force and Deadpool are now all those things in this studios eyes. That wasn't the case long ago.

Fox didn't know what was up till very recently when people on the internet started talking about X-Force and the reaction of his name in Deadpool. Fox didn't even know Deapdool a character who has sold and trended more then a majority of Marvel characters for quite sometime who is far and I mean far more popular then Cable should get his own movie. It took years of convincing. Fox knew Reynoldswas good for the role, and most of the X-Men casting is fantastic and not based off star power. That happens later.

Everything is not the same as last year in terms of studio interest for this property. That just isn't possible with the amount of money this made for the studio, and IF (with heavy emphasis) those rumors are true and Fox already passed on Tim Millers choice likely before any heavy screen tests even happened then yeah, that's disappointing. And not exactly the first piece of news I or I'm sure many fans would like to hear after this creative team just made Deadpool their most profitable property.

I understand but i think it's more complicated. Fox listen the main creative (Donner, Kinberg, Singer) and decide what they will do. The current team (Emma watts, Jim Gianopulos) are more ambitious than Rothman. Call me optimist but i think Donner and Co told to Fox the importance of Cable and it s why X-Force was in development. But the problematic is more about planification and coordination with the main X-Men franchise.

In a certain way, FC trilogy delayed the expanded universe because DOFP rebooted everything. Just imagine the chaos if Deadpool was released before Days of future past. Yeah, they canceled Jeff Wadlow's X- Force because of Apocalypse but you don't think Reynold team aren't happy about that? His X-Force would affect their potential Deapool 2 script and recently we learned he worked on his own Deadpool movie. You could think there were some concurencie between Reynold 's team and Wadlow.

IMO, Jeff Wadlow version just didn't fit in their current plan. After SS and BVS, we know is better to build a universe than rush. Now, FC trilogy is over and Wolverine is the last Jackman film, it 's the perfect time to introduce Cable and make X-Force.

The big question what Stacey Snider (new boss) think about that.

 

[Web-Head]

It's not gonna be any of these fanboy faves, I can pretty much guarantee that. It will be some actor none of you suspected and half of you will at first be like, "I don't see it." Right now you're just picking dudes who have done action before and look like square jawed hero types.

Sounds like Kyle Chandler...

 

[def28]

I understand but i think it's more complicated. Fox listen the main creative (Donner, Kinberg, Singer) and decide what they will do. The current team (Emma watts, Jim Gianopulos) are more ambitious than Rothman. Call me optimist but i think Donner and Co told to Fox the importance of Cable and it s why X-Force was in development. But the problematic is more about planification and coordination with the main X-Men franchise.

In a certain way, FC trilogy delayed the expanded universe because DOFP rebooted everything. Just imagine the chaos if Deadpool was released before Days of future past. Yeah, they canceled Jeff Wadlow's X- Force because of Apocalypse but you don't think Reynold team aren't happy about that? His X-Force would affect their potential Deapool 2 script and recently we learned he worked on his own Deadpool movie. You could think there were some concurencie between Reynold 's team and Wadlow.

IMO, Jeff Wadlow version just didn't fit in their current plan. After SS and BVS, we know is better to build a universe than rush. Now, FC trilogy is over and Wolverine is the last Jackman film, it 's the perfect time to introduce Cable and make X-Force.

The big question what Stacey Snider (new boss) think about that.

Oh I agree with alot of what your saying with timing being better right now for Cable, Deadpool and X-Force but that one way or another is coincidence. Expecting Snider or any higher up to see the importance of a character more so over the potential billions to be made now is more optimism then actual fact as you said.

What is no doubt getting this property and X-Force more attention then it would have 5 years ago is that Deadpool isn't just a proven success...it's Fox's most profitable IP at the moment. There is just no way around that. Deadpool needed less then 120M to break even. There is far too much money at hand now. No matter the case that was gonna cause more attention from thew studio. Everybody is gonna want a piece of X-Force now and want a hand in it. It being a priority moved up significantly right at that opening weekend.

I think the studio right now is thinking Deadpool and Cable are gonna bring the X-Men more money with any sort of crossover. But again, that's due to Deadpool's success.

 

[JEM]

Yeah i am agree, Deadpool sucess is game changer and if they play the right card, Deadpool 2 or X-Force could made 1 billion WO. We hope for the best.
Personnaly, i prefer to see more crossovers with Cable than Deadpool. Wade is cool but Cable have so much stories with X-Men ( Sinister, Apocalypse, Hope, Rachel, Scott, Jean).

Posted on X-Men board:

Christopher M on twitter said:

hearing that CABLE contract would likely include #Deadpool2 #Deadpool3 an #XForce trilogy and other #XMen films..multiple picture deal

It is a lot ...

 

[def28]

Yep Deadpol and X-Force mania time. Good pick with Egerton btw Jem.

Did we ever hear anything about Reynolds deal other then that they closed?

 

[JEM]

After Deadpool,there was a big renegotiation that will significantly up his compensation for future installments. But i don't know if there are more information. But Reynold is producer too so he is more than fine.

My guess is contract would include Deadpool sequels and XForce trilogy and some bonus like Robert Downey Jr.

 

[def28]

Yeah, I was just curious if any trades mentioned the number of films after the renegotiating. I don't remember much being said.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I understand but i think it's more complicated. Fox listen the main creative (Donner, Kinberg, Singer) and decide what they will do. The current team (Emma watts, Jim Gianopulos) are more ambitious than Rothman. Call me optimist but i think Donner and Co told to Fox the importance of Cable and it s why X-Force was in development. But the problematic is more about planification and coordination with the main X-Men franchise.

In a certain way, FC trilogy delayed the expanded universe because DOFP rebooted everything. Just imagine the chaos if Deadpool was released before Days of future past. Yeah, they canceled Jeff Wadlow's X- Force because of Apocalypse but you don't think Reynold team aren't happy about that? His X-Force would affect their potential Deapool 2 script and recently we learned he worked on his own Deadpool movie. You could think there were some concurencie between Reynold 's team and Wadlow.

IMO, Jeff Wadlow version just didn't fit in their current plan. After SS and BVS, we know is better to build a universe than rush. Now, FC trilogy is over and Wolverine is the last Jackman film, it 's the perfect time to introduce Cable and make X-Force.

The big question what Stacey Snider (new boss) think about that.

except the main team seems to be Kinberg and Donner now.noone knows if singer will have any involvement.

it really seems fox may be grooming cable as the wolverine replacement.and i am starting to think the speculation that X-Force will replace X-Men films may not be crazy after all.

Deadpool II & III and X-Force triloly not to mention New Mutants and if it ever gets made Gambit doesn't leave a lot of room for X-Men films on fox schedule.

 

[Bruce Malone]

what i like about Chandler is he will play the perfect straight man to deadpool he plays those roles very good

i feel guys like neeson and especially Lang would try to play this role too overly rough and tough

He played that role awesomely against Leo in Wolf.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I have adored Mackenzie Davis since seeing her on "What If". Would love that casting.

 

[Rowsdower!]

It is little overreacting when it is a natural process in casting decision. I don't particularly want Liam Nesson but i can't deny he is one of fan favorite for Cable with Stephan Lang and Ron Perlman (too old). He is in every top best actors to play Cable in internet. El Mayimbe posted a manip with Nesson and the reponses were very positive.

So i can't understand why they want him while i am not fan. He is a A list actor and some fans wants him like Benedict Cumberbatch (Strange), Christian Bale (Batman), Brie Larson (Captain Marvel). Anyway, Nesson want to quit action movie and Miller don't like him.

If Cable was in Deadpool, Fox would have been very involved. He isn't a supporting character but an A-list mutant and he could have a crucial role in X-Men Universe. So, Cable casting could be a very long procedure but it isn't a bad thing. Kyle Chandler or not, Miller will probably cast someone he likes.

My pick: Joel Edgerton, 42 years old

Edgerton would be great casting. He's a bit younger than the guys who are rumored, but still old enough that he would fit the role. And he's got Oscar buzz right now for his new film. It would be awesome if they picked him.

 

[LoganGambit87]

42 seems little young for cable hell Reynolds is only 3 years younger than him