Deadpool Deadpool Spin-off Confirmed - Part 2

[HIA]

I don't agree they've kept the franchise quite fresh. They attempted to branch off with Origins. After that they delved into a period piece. Then a foreign set movie (almost unheard of in CBMs) then a Sci-Fi movie. Next they'll continue with the Sci-Fi and add some disaster movie to it.

Plenty diversified

That being said they could do with mixing up the characters

I wasnt talking about 'genre' as you see it, its still a surperhero movie with XMen team. When people say diversity, they are talking about the characters and roster. If you keep using the same team or solo hero over and over, the new factor is gone, and general audience sees it as the same thing, different plot.

Marvel is doing diversity, 3 different solo series, one huge team (Avengers) and a new team of unpopular/fresh characters. so, they have as of right now 5 different things going on.

And the audience as we know has responded pretty well.

Fox on other hand, the latest years have only done a XMen movie followed by a Wolverine one. Thats only 2 different things. Thats not diversity. Thats a limited approach. Now they will do F4 again, so that would mean 3 different proyects for the audience, but still, its the same thing they did years ago, XMen movies and F4 movies, so... its same old story.

The audience needs new blood from time to time, and thats why Marvel has had so much success these latest 6 years. They took advantage, and they won.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Can't we ever avoid this marvel studios Is great everyone else sucks posts which lead to studio wars

First Class was a peroid piece without any stars and become second lowest grossing film in series domesticly

The wolverine was almost entirely set In Japan and was Hugh Jackman's first full Wolverine role In 4 years and while it became lowest grossing film In series domesticly while overseas audences eat it up

DOFP which through RT score is viewed on same level as the Avengers brought back the original cast and had them even jackman play second fiddle to first class actors In story you would never see at MS due it's darkness and seriousness.Those are 2 words that don't go with MS films.The idea the avengers would have to resort to time travel would never happen.

The idea MS would have Tony Stark play second fiddle to Captain America like wolverine did to Xavier,Magneto,and Mystique would never happen.

DOFP shatters the X-Men films are only about Wolverine line.And that Is likely to continue In Apocalypse

 

[X-Maniac]

The point is that they need to try different things.

But instead, Marvel Studios is doing it all first.

Fox could have been first to take superheroes into space with Phoenix, or Starjammers, or Imperial Guard, or something like that.

They need to get on with broadening the franchise. There's too much potential in all those X-Men comic book stories and it's not being exploited.

 

[The Endless]

There is a ton of potential in the Fantastic Four too. Maybe they thought audiences weren't ready for Kirby esque wackiness back when the original films were made. But there really is no excuse for that now.

But unfortunately Fox want to "ground" the Fantastic Four. I mean honestly, who the hell wants to see a "grounded" Fantastic Four? The whole point of them is that they are cosmic adventurers, travelling to different dimensions and through outer space. Going up against space Gods etc.

I'm not a studio fanboy but it is a crying shame that Marvel don't have the rights to Deadpool or the Fantastic Four. Because they have faith in the characters and their stories. I mean in Guardians of the Galaxy there is an actual [blackout] Celestial! And it looks exactly how Kirby designed them [/blackout] There is no doubt that if the F4 was in the hands of Marvel we'd have a proper Galactus by now. We'd have the Negative Zone. We'd have all kinds of amazing Kirby imagined aspects.

 

[JEM]

I wasnt talking about 'genre' as you see it, its still a surperhero movie with XMen team. When people say diversity, they are talking about the characters and roster. If you keep using the same team or solo hero over and over, the new factor is gone, and general audience sees it as the same thing, different plot.

Marvel is doing diversity, 3 different solo series, one huge team (Avengers) and a new team of unpopular/fresh characters. so, they have as of right now 5 different things going on.

And the audience as we know has responded pretty well.

Fox on other hand, the latest years have only done a XMen movie followed by a Wolverine one. Thats only 2 different things. Thats not diversity. Thats a limited approach. Now they will do F4 again, so that would mean 3 different proyects for the audience, but still, its the same thing they did years ago, XMen movies and F4 movies, so... its same old story.

The audience needs new blood from time to time, and thats why Marvel has had so much success these latest 6 years. They took advantage, and they won.

It 's difficult to expand your universe before make a film (DOFP) that will change the time of your universe .

Imagine, Fox tries to build a Marvel universe (X Men, Deadpool, X-Force) after First Class, they make a movie about Deadpool set in 80s or the present.
After they make DOFP and the timeline is changed . It would make Deadpool movie completely unnecessary .

Wolverine 2 is different situation because it was linked to DOFP

So it made more sense to wait until the Fox fix the franchise before starting to expend the universe .
Fans are asking Fox to have a shared universe and to plannify his films. Marvel Studios takes time so let Fox do the same. If you want you can say FC, Wolverine 2, DOFP and Apocalyspe are the Phase 1.

Now, they can do Gambit, Deadpool, X Force ect .. I don't think the problem is the faith but more the right time .

 

[GuestStar2004]

Unlike marvel I think fox want a cinematic universe but are very reluctant to try new things to get there

As I said FC was probably the biggest risk they have ever taken in the x-men universe because they had pushed wolverine to be the main character for 4 movies and the audience didn't know anything but wolverine, then suddenly they are making an X-men movie with an unrecognisable cast and no wolverine, that's like 2 risks made into 1 big risk

 

[GuestStar2004]

Also remembering of course fox haven't had a great track record with comic book movies, daredevil was probably their lowest comic-book box office movie

 

[marvelrobbins]

Also remembering of course fox haven't had a great track record with comic book movies, daredevil was probably their lowest comic-book box office movie

Your wrong.That was elektra.

Daredevil was considered a modest success In 2003 which is why they went forward with elektra.Elektra killed any daredevil sequel

 

[marvelrobbins]

The point is that they need to try different things.

But instead, Marvel Studios is doing it all first.

Fox could have been first to take superheroes into space with Phoenix, or Starjammers, or Imperial Guard, or something like that.

They need to get on with broadening the franchise. There's too much potential in all those X-Men comic book stories and it's not being exploited.

X-Men shouldn't be going Into outer space.Fantastic four yeah they should.

 

[marvelrobbins]

There is a ton of potential in the Fantastic Four too. Maybe they thought audiences weren't ready for Kirby esque wackiness back when the original films were made. But there really is no excuse for that now.

But unfortunately Fox want to "ground" the Fantastic Four. I mean honestly, who the hell wants to see a "grounded" Fantastic Four? The whole point of them is that they are cosmic adventurers, travelling to different dimensions and through outer space. Going up against space Gods etc.

I'm not a studio fanboy but it is a crying shame that Marvel don't have the rights to Deadpool or the Fantastic Four. Because they have faith in the characters and their stories. I mean in Guardians of the Galaxy there is an actual [blackout] Celestial! And it looks exactly how Kirby designed them [/blackout] There is no doubt that if the F4 was in the hands of Marvel we'd have a proper Galactus by now. We'd have the Negative Zone. We'd have all kinds of amazing Kirby imagined aspects.

The fantastic four has plenty of adventres on earth too.They have to relaunch FF first.

People are condeming the FF reboot without seeing it first or any footage.

Simon Kinberg has talked about Fox wanting to use silver surfer in future.They can move Into cosmic adventres In future.

COnsidering MS wants to turn their films apart from Cap solo film and Incredible Hulk Into comedys doesn't excite me.Yeah there should be more humor In FF than In X-Men but you still have to take things seriously.There Is nothing In GOTG by trailers i can see you take seriously.

Considering I dislike Iron Man 3 just as much as X-Men the last Stand and
Spider-man 3 and am not wild on Thor films I disagree with the everything would be better at MS thinking.

Deadpool at MS would be limited because anything related to mutants couldn't be used.

 

[psylockolussus]

I for one, would love to be optimistic for Fantastic Four! Just like I was when the first FF film came out in 2005. I had no idea whatsoever about them but I was excited nonetheless to watch it. And i always wanted a 3rd Fantastic Four film after Rise of the Silver Surfer and this is gonna be the 1st Fantastic Four film in 8 years.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Your wrong.That was elektra.

Daredevil was considered a modest success In 2003 which is why they went forward with elektra.Elektra killed any daredevil sequel

Oh yeah I always forget they did Electra, its a pretty forgettable movie and yeah that made even less then daredevil

 

[marvelrobbins]

I for one, would love to be optimistic for Fantastic Four! Just like I was when the first FF film came out in 2005. I had no idea whatsoever about them but I was excited nonetheless to watch it. And i always wanted a 3rd Fantastic Four film after Rise of the Silver Surfer and this is gonna be the 1st Fantastic Four film in 8 years.

The regime at Fox responable for those films and responable for elektra,X-Men the last Stand,and Origins Is gone.The present regime is responable for FC,The wolverine,and DOFP.That's a fact they refuse to admit.

Noone was going around saying because of Green Lantern The dark Knight rises,
Man of steel,and Batman V Superman would be terrable or will be terrable.

Using their logic I shouldn't like any MS films anymore due to me hating Iron
Man 3 and not being wild for any of the thor films.

 

[HIA]

I think x-men fans will be happy with a Fox expanded universe around 2020-2024. Until then, Im afraid it will be the same story as the current state.

Once they are done with Wolverine trilogy, FC second trilogy and F4 trilogy, they might start something new. So sadly all we can do is wait 6 more years or so.

 

[psylockolussus]

LOL why wait til 2020 for an expanded universe? I think we are already lucky to get 1 film per year, well starting in 2016.

And in my opinion, they should be planning an end game for this X-Men series, like for 2025 or earlier than that if 2025 is too much. As for the Fantastic Four, as long as its successful, they don't need to limit themselves to a "trilogy".

 

[Whiskey Tango]

FC,The wolverine,and DOFP.That's a fact they refuse to admit.

I refuse to admit those films are the masterpieces you try to paint them as. Wolverine was mediocre at best, and First Class earned quite a bit of goodwill simply for not being X3.

Uh oh! Not everyone adores Fox's recent output! My hastily-constructed theory... ruined! How can this be?!?

Anyway this is a Deadpool thread, not a "How dare those mean Fox haters say naughty things about stuff they don't like?" one. On topic would be nice.

Enjoy an old classic:

 

[def28]

Im with def28, the franchise needs diversity and Fox is wasting too much material, they are continuing the franchise, yes, but it started 14 years ago, thats more than enough to diversify, but they havent done it, so even if some fans are fine with it, thats wasting material in a very long period of time.

Yup

Deadpool at MS would be limited because anything related to mutants couldn't be used.

Deadpool is not a mutant. His solo stories mostly revolve around non mutant characters. The script actually cut out the one connection he had... Weapon X. I dont give a **** what studio makes the flick, but the sad truth is that Marvel Studios would have already cashed in on this.

And before you say no, riddle me this...Who is the one Fox owned Marvel character that Marvel puts in their Disney shows besides Logan that they connect to their universe? I'll give you a hint and a link.It aint Cyclops http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njgqALr080U

 

[JEM]

I think, we will see Gambit movie sooner than later because Chatum Tatum .
He cleary wants his solo movie . So i think, we can expect a Gambit movie in 2016 or 2017 .

For Deadpool, i think we will see him too because Bryan Singer said he wants to use him and test footage has leaked online ( i don't believe coincidence t: )

But the question is where (X men Apoc, X Force or solo movie )

So i don't worry , we will see Gambit, Deadpool sooner than later .

 

[BMM]

Yup


Deadpool is not a mutant. His solo stories mostly revolve around non mutant characters. The script actually cut out the one connection he had... Weapon X. I dont give a **** what studio makes the flick, but the sad truth is that Marvel Studios would have already cashed in on this.

And before you say no, riddle me this...Who is the one Fox owned Marvel character that Marvel puts in their Disney shows besides Logan that they connect to their universe? I'll give you a hint and a link.It aint Cyclops http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njgqALr080U

Not in the way people want. Marvel Studios, under the Disney banner, would never make a Deadpool film resembling the recently released test footage--or what people like about that test footage. A television show on the outskirts of cable? Maybe. But a film? No. Marvel Studios has plenty of adult oriented superheroes in its stable, and has more than proven its ability to successfully market unknown characters, and hasn't moved on them in bigscreen capacity. Why? Because they make more money producing family friendly films. But, yes, if a Deadpool movie with the grit of a Saturday morning cartoon is what you want for the character, then maybe Marvel Studios would have already cashed in.

 

[def28]

Yeah, I totally want them to ruin the character on the big screen. Come on.

#1. Marvel Studios is killing it. They would make a good movie. Hate all you want Fox fans #2. The main reason I've been supporting Deadpool at Fox over Marvel is because the script is perfect. I don't care who makes it. That's the film I want. But if your just gonna sit on it and tease the internet for another 10 years. Well, that's just plain ****ed up and stupid.

 

[JEM]

It is pretty sad to see fans say studios ( Fox, Marvels, WB Sony) can't do that or they will never do that ect ....

Guys have some faith, we live in the world where we have The Dark Knight, Avengers, DOFP and next years, we will see the Justice League, Thanos, Apocalypse, Darkseid and other famous characters in theatres. Besides, we have Flash, the Shield, Green Arrow, Constanine, Gotham and Daredevil in TV.

We live in the golden age of the superhero so open your mind and enjoy it lol .

 

[BMM]

Yeah, I totally want them to ruin the character on the big screen. Come one.

You're the one using a cartoon to support your argument, not me.

#1. Marvel Studios is killing it.

Yes, it is. Marvel Studios is killing it making family friendly films that aren't filled with graphic language and over-the-top violence.

They would make a good movie.

That is nothing like the test footage, because that's not where the studio's interest lies. If the studio really wanted to go that route, it would have already done so with its own characters.

Hate all you want Fox fans.

Welp, there goes this discussion I guess.

 

[def28]

Why was I making the cartoon argument though? It wasn't to point out tone.

I just saw a film by Marvel studios that had jokes about the aftermath of sexual bodily fluids through a blacklight. Along with 10 people being impaled in a single move. They make things work for all ages and accordingly to the character. Your just flat out wrong here.

..and sorry to do the Fox VS Marvel ********. But it does come down to sides on these posts. Especially with Marvelrobbins. Which is really who those comments were aimed at.

 

[X-Maniac]

X-Men shouldn't be going Into outer space.Fantastic four yeah they should.

I don't see why X-Men can't go into space.

In any case, I wasn't referring necessarily to the team, but to the franchise. They could have made standalone cosmic movies featuring Starjammers or Imperial Guard. Those could tie in with the X-Men team several movies down the line, with Lilandra contacting Xavier for help.

But the initial films for Starjammers and Imperial Guard don't have to be done with any obvious link to the X-Men team on Earth.

 

[Malik]

Yawn, another marvalite ruined thread.