Dear WB, your supposed 2009 blockbusters continue to fail...

[Excel]

Corn fields...

Custom grown to include the rolling mountains of Kansas...

 

[Ita-KalEl]

"The plan is just to reintroduce Terminator...."

Yes, but why Terminator? Because they needed something of the Transformers genre (sci-fi, robots, etc.). T:S seems "Matrix meets Transformers".

 

[KalMart]

Yes, but why Terminator? Because they needed something of the Transformers genre (sci-fi, robots, etc.). T:S seems "Matrix meets Transformers".

It was a joke....i.e. their answer to SR.

 

[daywalker2007]

well don't the 2 guys at Halycon own the rights to Terminator?
and they didn't put up all the money. WB and someone else put up the money.

So WB didn't put everything into Terminator Salvation.
It remains to be seen what happens.
but im pretty sure international numbers for TS will be quite decent, and it will probably make a profit.

As for Man of Steel, lets see what happens.

But yeah, SR's box office of 200 million domestic doesn't seem that bad now.
Its just the budget and the dreary movie itself which cost it a sequel.

 

[KalMart]

But yeah, SR's box office of 200 million domestic doesn't seem that bad now.
Its just the budget and the dreary movie itself which cost it a sequel.

The other problem, though, was that it didn't look that good compared to Spidey 2's, POTC2's, Iron Man's, and TF's numbers....and the recent Watchmen and Terminator doesn't help that. When a sports team doesn't make the playoffs, they don't look to teams that did worse than they did as inspiration or to address what they need to do better...they look towards the teams that actually did better and made the playoffs.

 

[dark_b]

guys do you think that one of the big reasons SR made so much money was because fo the promotion and because it was superman?

 

[KalMart]

guys do you think that one of the big reasons SR made so much money was because fo the promotion and because it was superman?

I think the majority of yje money it did make was on the name itself...its familiarity combined with the popularity of comic movies. The reason it didn't make more was because it didn't really have anything to offer beyond the name....and for some it barely even managed that. After seeing the movie, and watching the numbers later on, I was actually quite surprised it made as much as it did.


But I think we should get off Box Office lest a mod close the thread.

 

[dark_b]

i didnt watch TS yet so please no spoilers. but i think those big budget movies need a good villain. something that they can promote and something that people love when watching the movie.

so maybe had it something to do with the villain? mayb just terminators is not enough?

we need for the new superman movie a very good alien villain. plus lex luthor

 

[KalMart]

Well...having a good villain is also about having a good plot...good dynamics provided by the conflict et al. Ledger's Joker was great in and of itself, but man.....what he did to royally F things up for everyone in that story wasn't just about the performance or makeup. It was some damn good storytelling.

Heck...even The Bridges character (Stain?) in Iron Man was a better Lex Luthor than Lex Luthor was. Not the most incredible story, but he seemed a lot more sinister and calculating than that other bald bad guy.

 

[GreenKToo]

I think the majority of yje money it did make was on the name itself...its familiarity combined with the popularity of comic movies. The reason it didn't make more was because it didn't really have anything to offer beyond the name....and for some it barely even managed that. After seeing the movie, and watching the numbers later on, I was actually quite surprised it made as much as it did.


But I think we should get off Box Office lest a mod close the thread.

I agree. IMO the name alone is why it did as well as it did. Add in a supervillain and a better storyline, and we would (probably) now be discussing the sequel instead of the ''The plan is just to Reintroduce Superman II''.

Anywho, who knows whats going through the minds of the suits at W.B., maybe they do have a plan for a new Superman film, or maybe they don't. My money is on the don't.

 

[Showtime]

I think the majority of yje money it did make was on the name itself...its familiarity combined with the popularity of comic movies. The reason it didn't make more was because it didn't really have anything to offer beyond the name....and for some it barely even managed that. After seeing the movie, and watching the numbers later on, I was actually quite surprised it made as much as it did.


But I think we should get off Box Office lest a mod close the thread.

...or how about you and others get off the subject of SR unless specifically related to a what is happening with a new Superman film.

Granted, I know we have no news on anything happening with a new Superman film, so I guess you need to be creative.

 

[dark_b]

...or how about you and others get off the subject of SR unless specifically related to a what is happening with a new Superman film.

Granted, I know we have no news on anything happening with a new Superman film, so I guess you need to be creative.

wanted to start something new. i started with SR............and then lets go wit the flow t:

 

[GreenKToo]

Hmmmm something new and creative eh? well how about.....nah, that's been said already.
What if we......nope......been there, done that.

Hey, we could talk about taco's.

 

[Nightwing1977]

I wuv taco! t: t:

 

[KalMart]

...or how about you and others get off the subject of SR unless specifically related to a what is happening with a new Superman film.

Granted, I know we have no news on anything happening with a new Superman film, so I guess you need to be creative.

Well, it is kinda' hard to talk about a new Supes film, or what a new film should be, and NOT address why it has to be a new concept/story and not a sequel in the first place. Kinda' like talking about fixing water damage and rebuilding a basement, but not mentioning the flood that took it out.

Especially in threads that start with the topic of how others movies grossed in comparison.

 

[Dark Knight]

Failed.....just like this useless thread!

 

[FaT_tONle]

Basically, 2013 or 2014- whichever year doesnt have a Green Lantern Sequel planned - is the best bet for the next Supes film, and thats a reach at that.

Ima go

2011 GL
2012 BB3
2013 Superman Reboot
2014 ???
2015 Crossover/Team-up movie

Way to soon to project a GL sequel, but anything is possible. Maybe 2014 can be to DC what Marvel's 2011 will be ala WW/Flash in place of Thor/Cap. But that is the next ideal lineup... although I keep having to push everything back yet another year with every year WB makes zero movement on Superman.

 

[Sam]

Ima go

2011 GL
2012 BB3
2013 Superman Reboot
2014 ???
2015 Crossover/Team-up movie

Way to soon to project a GL sequel, but anything is possible. Maybe 2014 can be to DC what Marvel's 2011 will be ala WW/Flash in place of Thor/Cap. But that is the next ideal lineup... although I keep having to push everything back yet another year with every year WB makes zero movement on Superman.

WB should release Superman in december, not summer season. They going to make tons of money.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Are you still sure that there's not a place for Superman?



Superman Returns after its first week-end did $66,795,937
I wonder if it's really impossible to imagine a better performance for the supposed "Man of Steel".

That was from its opening wednesday onwards it made $52,535,096 opening weekend

 

[solidsnake86]

Addressing the title of the thread it might make WB actually hire some writers, which is usually a good start if they actually want to make the film. All these pitches and I find it hard to believe they havent settled on an idea. If anything I can see them putting a superman film in the winter, they got nothing to loose.

 

[Kal-El Fan]

Addressing the title of the thread it might make WB actually hire some writers, which is usually a good start if they actually want to make the film. All these pitches and I find it hard to believe they havent settled on an idea. If anything I can see them putting a superman film in the winter, they got nothing to loose.

"This Christmas, Superman brings you the gift of flight."
Hey, why not? It worked the first time.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I just don't think that a Superman movie is being released in the winter months. I wouldn't have a problem with that but I just don't see it.

 

[KalMart]

Is a Superman movie just not capable of handling the Summer movie competition or something? Or is Winter where the real moola is, and all those other movies are crazy for picking the warmer months?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Is a Superman movie just not capable of handling the Summer movie competition or something? Or is Winter where the real moola is, and all those other movies are crazy for picking the warmer months?

I don't know what all this winter talk is about, Superman could easily survive the summer, It could greatly thrive in the summer as a matter of fact.

Now again I would have no problem with a winter release but I'd perfer Superman in the summer.

 

[KalMart]

I would think that a well-made Superman movie would be an ideal Summer flick, no?