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Warner Bets on Fewer, Bigger Movies

[FONT=times new roman,times,serif][FONT=times new roman,times,serif]By LAUREN A.E. SCHUKER
August 22, 2008; Page B1

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Emboldened by this summer's success with "The Dark Knight," Warner Bros.' movie studio is setting a new strategy.


The Time Warner Inc. unit, like some other Hollywood studios, is planning to release fewer films into the crowded marketplace. But the studio, known for making more big, expensive movies than most rivals, plans to make even more of those -- some centered on properties from its DC Comics unit, such as Batman.


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Warner Bros/Everett Collection Christopher Nolan directs actor Aaron Eckhart on the set of Warner Bros. hit 'The Dark Knight.'

Warner Bros. Pictures Group President Jeff Robinov wants the studio to release as many as eight such movies a year by 2011. "The long-term goal of the studio is to take advantage of what has become a very global market by focusing on bigger films that require a bigger commitment," he says. Warner Bros. films released last year grossed $2 billion internationally, about 42% more than their $1.4 billion domestic take.


Mining the comic-book franchise is central to the success of Warner Bros.' strategy. Its lineup of "tent poles" -- Hollywood-speak for big movies that are the foundation of a studio's slate -- has thinned. Warner Bros. has been slow to capitalize on DC, and it now faces a rival in Marvel Entertainment Inc.'s Marvel Studios, the company behind box-office gusher "Iron Man."


Superhero films based on comic-book legends, like "The Dark Knight," have emerged as some of the strongest players in the global market, in part because they're natural candidates for tie-ups with consumer products and games that can also be marketed globally.


"Superheroes are more global than ever in today's commercial world, existing in 30 languages and in more than 60 countries," says Paul Levitz, president and publisher of DC Comics. The characters are "a world-wide export," he says.


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Marvel's 'Iron Man,' was a big success at the box office. Warner has been slower to capitalize on its DC Comics characters.

"Films with our DC properties have the opportunity to support other divisions in the company in a way that our other movies don't," Mr. Robinov says, for example, with products such as a Superman game or toys. By 2011, Mr. Robinov plans for DC Comics to supply the material for up to two of the six to eight tent-pole films he hopes Warner Bros. will have in the pipeline by then.


While big ambitions can result in a huge payoff, they can also end in huge losses. Warner's car adventure "Speed Racer" bombed at the box office in May. The film, said to have cost as much as $150 million, has taken in only $43.9 million in the U.S. Some other big-budget Warner films, such as spy comedy "Get Smart," also have failed to meet expectations.


Earlier this year, Warner Bros. shut its two art-house labels, Picturehouse and Warner Independent Pictures. The studio currently releases 25 to 26 films a year. By 2010, Mr. Robinov plans to pare production to 20 to 22 movies a year.


A movie referred to internally as "Justice League of America," originally said to be for next summer, was planned as one of the studio's major releases. With that film, starring a superhero team, Warner hoped to spark interest in DC characters like Green Lantern who haven't yet attained the level of popularity of Batman. But script problems, among other things, have delayed the movie.


The studio said last week that "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince," originally slated for November release, would come out next July -- on the same weekend that "The Dark Knight" opened this year. The Batman sequel made more than $150 million in the U.S. that weekend. "We just needed a July movie," said Alan Horn, president of the studio, at the time.


Warner Bros. also put on hold plans for another movie starring multiple superheroes -- known as "Batman vs. Superman" -- after the $215 million "Superman Returns," which had disappointing box-office returns, didn't please executives. "'Superman' didn't quite work as a film in the way that we wanted it to," says Mr. Robinov. "It didn't position the character the way he needed to be positioned." "Had 'Superman' worked in 2006, we would have had a movie for Christmas of this year or 2009," he adds. "But now the plan is just to reintroduce Superman without regard to a Batman and Superman movie at all."


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One of the studio's other big releases planned for 2009, "Watchmen," is the subject of a high-profile copyright lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court for the Central District of California by News Corp.'s Twentieth Century Fox.


Based on the premise that superheroes are real people grappling with their own problems, "Watchmen" is an apocalyptic vision of their world. Fox says it is seeking an injunction to enforce its copyright interest in the film. Last week, a federal judge ruled that it may have rights to the property. News Corp. is the parent of Wall Street Journal publisher Dow Jones & Co.


With "Batman vs. Superman" and "Justice League" stalled, Warner Bros. has quietly adopted Marvel's model of releasing a single film for each character, and then using those movies and their sequels to build up to a multicharacter film. "Along those lines, we have been developing every DC character that we own," Mr. Robinov says.


Like the recent Batman sequel -- which has become the highest-grossing film of the year thus far -- Mr. Robinov wants his next pack of superhero movies to be bathed in the same brooding tone as "The Dark Knight." Creatively, he sees exploring the evil side to characters as the key to unlocking some of Warner Bros.' DC properties. "We're going to try to go dark to the extent that the characters allow it," he says. That goes for the company's Superman franchise as well.


The studio is set to announce its plans for future DC movies in the next month. For now, though, it is focused on releasing four comic-book films in the next three years, including a third Batman film, a new film reintroducing Superman, and two movies focusing on other DC Comics characters. Movies featuring Green Lantern, Flash, Green Arrow, and Wonder Woman are all in active development.


Many of the studio's directors credit Mr. Robinov for taking Warner Bros.' films in a darker and deeper direction. Christopher Nolan, who directed "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight," says Mr. Robinov "really encouraged the logic of the villain" from "Batman Begins." That led to focusing heavily on the Joker in the sequel. "At the script stage, Jeff really wanted us to be very clear on the Joker's lack of purpose," he says.


Write to Lauren A.E. Schuker at [email protected]

from: The Wall Street Journal Online
 
I like the deeper and darker statements, gives me hope that the other properties will be treated with the same level of maturity as TDK, the time frame though is what I'm still doubtful on, 4 films in 3 years? I find it unlikely.
 
Nice article hopefully WB can finally get on the ball and get some good quality and serious films out there for other dc characters. So with the films they are thinking of getting out besides a 3rd nolan bat flick. The other 3 are green lantern and green arrow most likely since alot of talk been going on there i wonder which will be the 3rd of the 4 films they are planning; flash? wonder woman? shazam?
 
Batman 3 is obviously going to be one, GL by the sounds of things is almost assured, you'd think a new Superman film would be the third and then a simple toss up between WW or FL for the fourth film, although it wouldn't surprise me if they ditched a Superman reboot and wanted to test the waters with a Flash and Wonder Woman film for the other two. Still doubtful we'll get 4 films in 3 years though.
 
Yea true will will likely get 2 maybe 3. And that would be batman 3(hopefully), green lantern, and then toss up with green arrow/flash/wonder woman/maybe shazam if that script gets worked on more.
 
That's really not a good idea trying to darken up Supes and the other heroes like Flash, just because Batman was Dark. That's f**king Batman. He's supposed to be dark, Superman? Not so much. That's gonna end in disaster if they try to go too far with it. And if we're talking about the WB, that's entirely probable.
 
Warner Bros. also put on hold plans for another movie starring multiple superheroes -- known as "Batman vs. Superman" -- after the $215 million "Superman Returns," which had disappointing box-office returns, didn't please executives. "'Superman' didn't quite work as a film in the way that we wanted it to," says Mr. Robinov. "It didn't position the character the way he needed to be positioned." "Had 'Superman' worked in 2006, we would have had a movie for Christmas of this year or 2009," he adds. "But now the plan is just to reintroduce Superman without regard to a Batman and Superman movie at all."

When was Superman vs Batman ever going to be the follow-up? That was Man of Steel.

S vs B got deep sixed since WB chose to go with Singer's Superman over Wolfgang's Petersen's project.

Like the recent Batman sequel -- which has become the highest-grossing film of the year thus far -- Mr. Robinov wants his next pack of superhero movies to be bathed in the same brooding tone as "The Dark Knight." Creatively, he sees exploring the evil side to characters as the key to unlocking some of Warner Bros.' DC properties. "We're going to try to go dark to the extent that the characters allow it," he says. That goes for the company's Superman franchise as well.

I agree with Anubis. What the hell is Rubinov talking about making Superman darker or that they need to unlock the "evil side" of these characters? Batman didn't work because he was evil. He worked because he was in good movies that were faithful to his character.

The only high profile franchise which was ever "evil" was Hal Jordan and he was possessed temporarily. The rest are heroes to the core.

Rubinov should try researching his own franchises more thoroughly before trying to turn them into TDK like its the only option to make their films succeed.

Movies featuring Green Lantern, Flash, Green Arrow, and Wonder Woman are all in active development.

The only one of these movies which seems to be active is GL.

The rest seem to be in development hell.

GA seems to have stalled and its the more likely to get greenlit after GL. Flash has been MIA for months after they got a director on it. Not sure if they either are writing a script or it never got that far ahead. WW got a new draft after Whedon left and hasn't budged ever since.

It would be great if these movies are about to move forward, though.
 
Didn't they try to replicate Bamtan89's darkness into the Flash series in the 90s?

Ugh.
 
nice article i hope Flash is one of those movies
 
It is a great idea for The WB to make superhero films with other characters as well as more Batman and Superman films. I would say that Batman III will be 2011 along with the Superman Reboot. Green Lantern and Green Arrow (based on the already written Supermax script) could be 2010 releases with Wonder Woman as a potential 2012 release.

While The WB is on an ambitious plan to make all these superhero films a reality...how about a new superhero tv series where a costumed superhero fights supervillains. Maybe a Live Action Teen Titans series could be attempted. I would like to see a new series featuring one of the heroes not up for a feature film. Black Canary, Huntress, Plastic Man could be interesting ideas. Maybe the WB could even make a prime time animated series featuring Hawkman and Hawkgirl. Adam Strange (a Flash Gordon clone) would be a great idea as well.
 
if Green Lantern and Green Arrow came out in 2010 it would be the year of GREEN since Green Hornet comes out in 2010 also!
 
It is a great idea for The WB to make superhero films with other characters as well as more Batman and Superman films. I would say that Batman III will be 2011 along with the Superman Reboot. Green Lantern and Green Arrow (based on the already written Supermax script)

It is a good idea they're adapting lesser franchises but they've done it before.

The problem isn't that. It's whether they are good movies and faithful to the property.

could be 2010 releases with Wonder Woman as a potential 2012 release.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Green Arrow has a better chance.

While The WB is on an ambitious plan to make all these superhero films a reality...how about a new superhero tv series where a costumed superhero fights supervillains. Maybe a Live Action Teen Titans series could be attempted. I would like to see a new series featuring one of the heroes not up for a feature film. Black Canary, Huntress, Plastic Man could be interesting ideas. Maybe the WB could even make a prime time animated series featuring Hawkman and Hawkgirl. Adam Strange (a Flash Gordon clone) would be a great idea as well.

Agreed.
 
That's great! So... Batman 3, Superman, Green Lantern and Green Arrow? But what's goin' on with Shazam? Is he dead or what? BTW he's not a dark character...
 
Well, as long as they adhere to this:

"We're going to try to go dark to the extent that the characters allow it,"

There is hope. There are dark themes that can be explored with all these characters. Like the fact that say, Captain Marvel was an orphan living on the street and his parents were murdered by the guy who would become Black Adam. But making the Big Red Cheese into some Dark Brooding, anti hero would be what is sometimes known as, a bad move.
 
Now WB/DC is thinking! Maybe we shouldn't get our hopes up, but this is exactly what we needed to hear.
For the first of the two movies on "other DC characters," they better capitalize on that GL script.
 
No, Miracle Man is a Dark Character. You wanna do a dark Power of SHAZAM, that's the movie you do. Too bad all the rights are in legal hell at the moment. :(
 
Well, as long as they adhere to this:



There is hope. There are dark themes that can be explored with all these characters. Like the fact that say, Captain Marvel was an orphan living on the street and his parents were murdered by the guy who would become Black Adam. But making the Big Red Cheese into some Dark Brooding, anti hero would be what is sometimes known as, a bad move.
Agreed.
 
I don't know about anyone else, but I got more bad than good from that article. No Man of Steel, no Justice League for a long, long time, and "brooding" films about Supes, Flash, and GL? Count me out. I'm more of a Marvel Zombie, but I have respect for the heroic integrity of DC characters. Making dark and morose films about Flash and Superman take away from the lightness and fun of the characters. Beside TDK wasn't a success because of it's tone. It was a success because it took a mature approach and had an amazing crew in place to do it with.
 
Perfect! This is what I wanted WB to do the whole time. Fewer but bigger. Marvel is known for greenlighting most of their titles and have shadowed DC, but Marvels quality has been off for a long time until they started their own studio.

Hopefully when they say as dark as the characters will allow that means nothing to off when it comes to tone.
 
I don't know about anyone else, but I got more bad than good from that article. No Man of Steel, no Justice League for a long, long time, and "brooding" films about Supes, Flash, and GL? Count me out. I'm more of a Marvel Zombie, but I have respect for the heroic integrity of DC characters. Making dark and morose films about Flash and Superman take away from the lightness and fun of the characters. Beside TDK wasn't a success because of it's tone. It was a success because it took a mature approach and had an amazing crew in place to do it with.

Flash and Superman can be somewhat dark while still remaining faithful. It just doesn't need to the point of the story. They need to still be able to inspire hope. TDK and BB actually did this well I thought. Though their films don't need to get anywhere near a dark.

All it takes is moderation.
 
And somebody writing and directing with some god damn sense.
 
Mr. Robinov wants his next pack of superhero movies to be bathed in the same brooding tone as "The Dark Knight."

Stupid stupid stupid. I hope this is just the reporter incorrectly wording something.
 

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