Death's in X3?

X-Maniac said:
But his death is somehow unlikely, since he is the philosophical opposite to Xavier. As in the comics, he is the crucial counterbalance to the X-Men, who sees things in the opposite way and reminds them of why they are what they are and why they do what they do.

Which is why, in the event they plan to go past X3, in order to divorce the Magneto character from the storyline and bring in another villian they may kill him off or leave to think he is dead. If X3 doesn't have Magneto everyone will sit around going "Where's Mags? He's only the baddest man on the planet."
 
I think killing off Magneto will be a HUGE mistake. He is the badest of the bad and plus I would like to see him battle Apoc in a X movie (If Apoc will ever be in an X movie).
 
pejo said:
Jean died for the cause, so that's already been taken care of. And I don't think the machismo of Thunderbird/Wolverine really had anything to do with the success of the X-Men in the 70's, especially since Thunderbird was there for like 3 issues, died, and then his personality got transferred to Wolverine. The success of the X-Men of the 70's can be summed up in two words: Girl Power. The 80's...well, that's a different story.

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***EDIT*** Warpath blamed Banshee for Thunderbird's death, not Xavier. Just caught that and wanted to correct it for you.

Thanks for the history lesson...I stopped reading the comic in ' 80. I agree that Storm and Phoenix were a big factor in getting girls to read the mag, but I still think it was the addition of Wolverine, Nightcrawler & Colossus that made it a hit with the guys. Before them, it was only the Beast who got his hands dirty. Plus, did "Wonder Woman" have a huge female fan base?
 
I think Wolverine should die in X3. Well, at least appear to be dead, with his body going through some total abuse. Then somehow that can lead into the spin-off, with him being 'reborn' so to speak. And start a whole new chapter in his journey. He can even find himself in Japan training in the martial arts. Oh wait...that sounds too much like Elektra :o :p
 
^I bet if someone pitched in an idea like that, they'd be fired right on the spot.. :p

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I think, the movie verse should go with the "dead means dead" policy. Bringing people back is stupid. Perfect example, Collosus (my favorite X-Men character). Had a great death, and he should have been left alone. Instead, he comes back, making his sacrafice meaningless. This is one of the many things that has turned me off of X-Men books right now, but I should have expected it from that hack Whedon (I have not liked him for years.)
 
Spider-Fan930 said:
I think, the movie verse should go with the "dead means dead" policy. Bringing people back is stupid. Perfect example, Collosus (my favorite X-Men character). Had a great death, and he should have been left alone. Instead, he comes back, making his sacrafice meaningless. This is one of the many things that has turned me off of X-Men books right now, but I should have expected it from that hack Whedon (I have not liked him for years.)
He's your favorite x-man yet you can't spell his name right, you must be some big fan.
 
I dont know who they should kill but I want to see Mr. Sinister as the villain and hope the rumors of Beast and gambit and sentinels and Angel are true. If they dont make Rogue any tougher or fly like the comics I say kill her...her character right now really has no point in the movie.
 
^I dare you to make a thread on that argument... :p

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Feel free to ignore this......I made it along time ago and just thought it was funny reading it.

And only one person mentioned Cyclops.
 
The only problem I have is Cyke being killedooff. It doesn't further the stroy what so ever. I can accept Xavier being killed, and i like that he have moved to a new body, which has been done in the comics by some telepaths, so no biggie. I'm royally pissed at the handling of Scott.
 
TheVileOne said:
Did Jean even really die in the Phoenix saga?
don't know if that was rhetorical or not ... but factually .... yes and no

The Dark Phoenix saga

The plan was that Yes she would die ( as a penance Byrne/claremont reasoned, for the killing o Billions of lifeforms on other planets. there were actually pages drawn for an alternate ending where she lived, but was no longer a mutant)).

so for years she stayed dead.... bUt was resurrected . the rationale was that the Phoenix force duplicated her genetic stucture and created a cloned form to inhabit and left Jean alive in a cocoon in the ocean. She was found by, funnyy enough, the Fantastic Four!

thus technically the Phoenix force died not Jean.
 
I would like to comment on the death issues if i may. Magneto can't be killed off until maybe the finale movie. They say this the last x-men movie but i think there will be a fourth to keep up with spiderman 4. My point is that Magneto should redeem himself before he dies. Magneto is a villain that does do bad things and yet also redeems himself.

I think Xavier is not truely dead in the fact he has dead before or was thought dead before in the comics. If you don't see a dead body then he most likey is not dead. We are just lead to believe he is.

As for Cyclops his fall has alot to do with Bryan Singer. He started his less of a role part in X-2. If you kill off jean in this there is nothing for Cyclops to do the way his characters has been set up.
The truth is they should recast Cyclops and put him with Psylock and renew him in X-men 4. Or was it Emma Frost he dated other then Jean. Anywho i personally am not a Cyclops nut so it doesn't effect me that much.
Killing Xavier does if it happens to be true that he doesn't return.
 
fallenAngel said:
Since the Phoenix saga was a tragic saga in the comics, what with the death of Jean and all. Should the movies mirror this by killing off a major character. Or would it be too much like the ending of X2?

this is all your fault! oyu made this happen! his blood is on your hands! **** you god damn you! this is all your fault! you had to give them to ****ing idea! grr razzle yasya booo to you! booooo!
WELL, I'M BETTER
 
If they made an X4, it won't star any of the initial team from X1. Aside from the obvious 3 deaths, Halle Berry has just said she's done with superhero movies (although she also just said she was willing to do Catwoman 2), and Hugh Jackman will be satisfied with his own Wolverine movie.

Rebecca Romijn has said she won't be going blue anymore, and if Rogue is cured, then she could be ruled out as well.

The only characters I see returning would be Iceman, Angel, Beast, Shadowcat, Colossus and maybe Jubilee.
From Ian McKellen's reaction on Jonathon Ross last week, I'm convinced he wants to return, and we know Vinnie Jones wants to come back.

A side question, but since there'll be no more psychics in the X-Men- what will happen to cerebro? Will they simply lock the door and become unable to locate mutants?
 
I'm going to die and go to heaven when I see Ben Foster as Angel. Does that count?
 

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