Dexter

[Ghostvirus]

I think the Blood Vial chick is the main baddy. I think Jordan is actually her victim. That is why he didn't want her to touch him.

 

[Archangel]

I think she has some weird Stockholm Syndrome thing going on, where she's infatuated with him after all these years.

I think his distaste for being touched comes from maybe being impotent, or some other sort of sexual frustration? He also never partook in the rape/torture of any of the women, so there's definitely something going on there.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

I think the Blood Vial chick is the main baddy. I think Jordan is actually her victim. That is why he didn't want her to touch him.

It was about power, by not letting her touch him he is exerting control over her.

That and I think he is genuinely repulsed by sexual contact, if I had to guess I'd wager he's been abused at some point in his childhood.

 

[Slick]

It was about power, by not letting her touch him he is exerting control over her.

That and I think he is genuinely repulsed by sexual contact, if I had to guess I'd wager he's been abused at some point in his childhood.

Yeah most likely. Like Dexter said Jordan was a monster long before summer camp or somingthing like that.

 

[Ghostvirus]

The thing is Jordan shows no sense of power around woman. Something that even a man that would be willing to watch a women be raped would show. He shows no sign of arrogance around woman. He does not treat them as lesser beings.

Emily seemed to be the one in control in that scene. That facial expression of Jordan in that scene was no one of power. It was of repulsion. Of a victim. None of these a signs of a man who looks so down upon woman that he is can rape & kill them without remorse.

Something very different happened in that cabin. Something that Jordan was a victim of not the architect.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

The thing is Jordan shows no sense of power around woman. Something that even a man that would be willing to watch a women be raped would show. He shows no sign of arrogance around woman. He does not treat them as lesser beings.

Emily seemed to be the one in control in that scene. That facial expression of Jordan in that scene was no one of power. It was of repulsion. Of a victim. None of these a signs of a man who looks so down upon woman that he is can rape & kill them without remorse.

Something very different happened in that cabin. Something that Jordan was a victim of not the architect.

I disagree. I do think Emily holds a special place in his heart as she was his "first" but the power he holds over her is very clear. She makes it clear she said everything she said because HE asked her too. Emily then expresses concern that he thinks more of Lumen than her and when he says no she approaches after Jordan professes how special she is to him only for him to REMOVE her hand when she makes contact with him. Those are not the actions of a person not in control.

Notice Jordan is the one controlling their interaction, not Emily. She makes an advance and he shuts her down cold.

 

[Ghostvirus]

I will admit that scene is vague enough to be taken either way.

However, the serial voyeur of raping women would not of taken kindly to Debra talking to him like that. & I don't mean Jordan speaking up the way he did. I mean he would have shown signs of extreme offense & disdain that a woman dare speak to him that way. He would have also focused more on talking to Quinn & treating Debra like the lesser of the 2 cops.

 

[Archangel]

Chase has molded himself into someone that can handle being spoken to like that. He's completely in control at all times, until it comes to affectionate or sexual contact with the opposite sex, that's when he starts to crumble and lose his ****.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

I will admit that scene is vague enough to be taken either way.

However, the serial voyeur of raping women would not of taken kindly to Debra talking to him like that. & I don't mean Jordan speaking up the way he did. I mean he would have shown signs of extreme offense & disdain that a woman dare speak to him that way. He would have also focused more on talking to Quinn & treating Debra like the lesser of the 2 cops.

Well Deb isn't blond for one thing and Jordan's a very good actor as we've seen, he's got his **** together. That and his difficulty seems as I said to be with sexual contact, not just the presence of a woman.

Not to mention calling Deb to arrest her own brother/Lumen in the act of killing Alex could very much be seen as revenge.

Plus it looks like he

Spoiler

beats Emily to death in the next episode preview.

 

[Ghostvirus]

Well however this clusterf**k of season turns out. I hope this is the end.

 

[CrypticOne]

Well however this clusterf**k of season turns out. I hope this is the end.

The end of the series?!

 

[Golgo-13]

I will admit that scene is vague enough to be taken either way.

However, the serial voyeur of raping women would not of taken kindly to Debra talking to him like that. & I don't mean Jordan speaking up the way he did. I mean he would have shown signs of extreme offense & disdain that a woman dare speak to him that way. He would have also focused more on talking to Quinn & treating Debra like the lesser of the 2 cops.

I think something other than what she said happened in the cabin, also. That whole scene between Jordon and Emily was just way too complex. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out that he was the one that got raped, under her orders, thus his hatred of blondes....

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

I can't imagine how you could look at what happened during that scene and not see that Chase was clearly the one in control. He's calling the shots not Emily. Now I think that he's definitely a product of sexual abuse and he's heaped a lot of that onto her and uses her and the other woman to take out his anger/rage/frustrations out on them, but I saw a woman beaten into utter submission desperate for any sort of contact/intimacy.

Emily: I told her the truth, like YOU said. Even though I didn't want to.

This is just like how a few pages ago people were trying to peg the nanny as some kind of agent/relative of Chase or how Trinity was Rita's husband, I just don't see it.

 

[Matt]

Where's all this talk of Jordan Chase being unable to have/repulsed by sex coming from? He clearly raped Lumen. She described him raping her and he finished by taunting her with the "tick, tick, tick," line.

 

[TheOnlyOmega]

Where's all this talk of Jordan Chase being unable to have/repulsed by sex coming from? He clearly raped Lumen. She described him raping her and he finished by taunting her with the "tick, tick, tick," line.

Theyre just saying that according to the woman, he didnt do anything and just gave them to the other dudes.

 

[Dugath]

Where's all this talk of Jordan Chase being unable to have/repulsed by sex coming from? He clearly raped Lumen. She described him raping her and he finished by taunting her with the "tick, tick, tick," line.

Who said he did anything to her? She did not know who he was, or what he looked like, so she was blindfolded.. he could be standing by her, doing that. Nothing was proved he actually even touched her. Remember he submitted to DNA tests, so I doubt he even touched her or the other women.

 

[DIRECTOR]

He never touched her. He maybe repulsive to interaction because when the first raped victim counsel touched his hand in that one scene, he looked like he was about to hurl or run.

 

[Ghostvirus]

I can't imagine how you could look at what happened during that scene and not see that Chase was clearly the one in control. He's calling the shots not Emily. Now I think that he's definitely a product of sexual abuse and he's heaped a lot of that onto her and uses her and the other woman to take out his anger/rage/frustrations out on them, but I saw a woman beaten into utter submission desperate for any sort of contact/intimacy.

Emily: I told her the truth, like YOU said. Even though I didn't want to.

This is just like how a few pages ago people were trying to peg the nanny as some kind of agent/relative of Chase or how Trinity was Rita's husband, I just don't see it.

I can't believe you can look at that scene & see a man in control.

& until this season is over. You people should really settle down with the arrogant dismissal of the nanny theories.

 

[Golgo-13]

I can't imagine how you could look at what happened during that scene and not see that Chase was clearly the one in control. He's calling the shots not Emily. Now I think that he's definitely a product of sexual abuse and he's heaped a lot of that onto her and uses her and the other woman to take out his anger/rage/frustrations out on them, but I saw a woman beaten into utter submission desperate for any sort of contact/intimacy.

Emily: I told her the truth, like YOU said. Even though I didn't want to.

This is just like how a few pages ago people were trying to peg the nanny as some kind of agent/relative of Chase or how Trinity was Rita's husband, I just don't see it.

Yeah, she said she told her the truth; but what that truth is could still be up in the air; since Chase wasn't there to hear the truth, what she actually told Lumen could have been far from it......

Where's all this talk of Jordan Chase being unable to have/repulsed by sex coming from? He clearly raped Lumen. She described him raping her and he finished by taunting her with the "tick, tick, tick," line.

What show have you been watching? It's been said over and over that he never touched her. It's also why Dex said in the last ep that ''it's a good thing you never touched any of them; so your DNA won't come up; so i'll have you all to myself" (just paraphrasing). Lumen also said it herself.

 

[Ghostvirus]

A question regarding that extra bit of DNA on the barells. Did Dexter use gloves when he went out there to check originally?

 

[Prison Mike]

Great episode Sunday night. I'm really interested to see where this Robocop investigation thing is going. I'm sure he'll be dead by the end of the season and I doubt it will be by the hands of Dexter. I just hope somebody finds out about Dexter. I would love to see Quinn or Debra learning the truth and being okay with it. From the way the last few episodes have gone, I think Debra would be kind of cool about it.

 

[Neverless]

I can't believe you can look at that scene & see a man in control.

& until this season is over. You people should really settle down with the arrogant dismissal of the nanny theories.

I'm sorry but man.... I think you're way off.

Chase is obviously in control. I don't know how you can watch that and think she's the one calling the shots.

Like Archangel said, She probably has some stockholme syndrome going on with Chase. After all these years she's fallen in love with him.

The reason chase jerked his hand away when she touched him is one of two things.

he is either impotent, which would explain why he gets his friends to do all the raping while he watches.

Or he was sexually abused as a child.

Either way explains it, but he is definitely a controller, and gets his rocks off by controlling other people to do the raping.

 

[Trainwreck2100]

Spoiler

NATALIE: In the season's penultimate episode, there are not one, but two deaths! And not one, but two kidnappings! What's happening to whom? Here are your hints: There are four separate victims, two male and two female. One death you'll cheer, and one will make you cringe. As for the kidnappings, let's just say both victims prove to be easy prey for their captors.

http://www.tvguide.com/News/MegaBuzz-CSI-Miami-Dexter-1026275.aspx

its from a tvguide rumor mill so take it for what its worth

 

[Rocker22]

Looks like it got picked up for another season!

 

[GREEN =w= DAY]

Spoiler

NATALIE: In the season's penultimate episode, there are not one, but two deaths! And not one, but two kidnappings! What's happening to whom? Here are your hints: There are four separate victims, two male and two female. One death you'll cheer, and one will make you cringe. As for the kidnappings, let's just say both victims prove to be easy prey for their captors.

http://www.tvguide.com/News/MegaBuzz-CSI-Miami-Dexter-1026275.aspx

its from a tvguide rumor mill so take it for what its worth

so 2 die and 2 are kidnapped?

i think the deaths will be Chase and Robocop. and hopefully Laguerta is one of the kidnap or even death victims t: