Transformers Did Starscream Shoot...

Personally I'm hoping for Shockwave to take command while Starscream plans his own leadership uprising in the shadows. Would be cool if a power strugle for the leadership is presented, all while Megatrons revival is taking place.
 
I'm sure they'll have some sort of friction between who will lead the decepticons. I hope anyway. :D

I just noticed your signature...I LOVED that part lmao
 
One of the few funny parts I liked about the Autobots, Ironhide was gold in this movie, threatening the kids, threatening the parents, threatening the dog, what a trooper :D
 
I guess the only way we'll find out is to wait for the DVD release...
Or I can ask at SDCC, here:

11:45-1:15 Hasbro: Transformers Entertainment Panel featuring Hasbro, Cartoon Network Studios, and IDW Publishing—At this extended Transformers entertainment panel, Hasbro Transformers marketing and design team members explain some of the behind-the-scenes development of the characters in the Transformers movie. Hasbro is pleased to be joined by the Cartoon Network Studios production team and the IDW team as they look into the new animated series and toys. IDW will answer your questions on the successful movie-related comic books and upcoming projects. Q&A on all Transformers-related topics will be welcome. Room 6A

:cwink:
 
He was tearing Ironhide and Ratches a new one. He had Sam in his grasp AND had a good chance to obtain the AllSpark , but he turned to his F22 mode as soon as he heared the Human F22's were going to fire at Megatron ... coincidence?
Man, I keep missing these Important Clues. I GOT Watch it again Pay more attention!!!
 
It was definitely SS who shot at Megatron. In the clip when Megs gets hit there's 4 jets left and they hit Megs from both sides, 2 jets from the back and 2 jets from the front. That's awesome :up:
 
It was definitely SS who shot at Megatron. In the clip when Megs gets hit there's 4 jets left and they hit Megs from both sides, 2 jets from the back and 2 jets from the front. That's awesome :up:

It was definitely the Air Force who hit Megatron. They were ordered to strike just before it happened. That's called descriptive storytelling. The soldiers cried "Take him out!" just before Megs got hit. That's how the scene plays out. To read it any other way is wishful thinking. And if it was meant for SS to hit Megs, then it wasn't shown or described visually in any way, shape or form to make it clear, so it didn't happen.
 
It was definitely the Air Force who hit Megatron. They were ordered to strike just before it happened. That's called descriptive storytelling. The soldiers cried "Take him out!" just before Megs got hit. That's how the scene plays out. To read it any other way is wishful thinking. And if it was meant for SS to hit Megs, then it wasn't shown or described visually in any way, shape or form to make it clear, so it didn't happen.
I hate to admit it, but I agree. :dry:
 
It doesn't have to be spelled outright (and how would they do that, exactly? Have SS come down and say "HEY GUYS! I SHOT MEGATRON! Y HELO THAR!"?) to be a nod for Transformer fans, not to mention something that can be picked up and referenced in a future movie.

Of course people are split, but just because nobody on the ground went "Whoa, was that the alien that looked like one of our jets that attacked us that just hit Megatron too? LIEK ZOMG!!!!!" doesn't mean diddly. Whether it was just a nod for fans, whether it will be referenced later, it sure does look like Starscream was among the jets that shot Megatron, and I've thought it since seeing the scene - and evidently I'm not the only one.

:heart:Close-watchers.
 
I still hold true to that IF it was Starscream, it definitely would've been more obvious, IMO..

-TNC
 
SS DID in fact shoot at Megatron,here's a detailed explanation how
There are 7 jets flying in formation
SS shoots 4 of them during his attacks,leaving 3 left
He blends in at the end of his attack and you see there are now 4 including SS
When the assult on megs happens, 2 jets fire on each side,which means 4 jets fired,the 3 raptors and StarScream
 
It was definitely the Air Force who hit Megatron. They were ordered to strike just before it happened. That's called descriptive storytelling. The soldiers cried "Take him out!" just before Megs got hit. That's how the scene plays out. To read it any other way is wishful thinking. And if it was meant for SS to hit Megs, then it wasn't shown or described visually in any way, shape or form to make it clear, so it didn't happen.



GOOD Lord. Do movies MUST show/tell you everything in one movie? Michael Bay and the movie writers Want you to THINK FOR YOURSELF Or are people getting Dumber that everything must be told to them... to be True? Where the hell is people's Free thinking? Imagination? Clues Solving?

:whatever:

This movie is certainly gonna have Sequels! They can tell you in the next one!
 
I still hold true to that IF it was Starscream, it definitely would've been more obvious, IMO..

-TNC

Starscream shoot some F22s and then BLEND in with the others, the rest we don't see what happens... THERE IS your obvious!

So, YES, it is Obviously Possible Starscream shoot Megatron!

I hate to think the Military alone hurt Megatron. I think this movie is A LOT more than meets the Eye, it's a Great movie!
 
SS DID in fact shoot at Megatron,here's a detailed explanation how
There are 7 jets flying in formation
SS shoots 4 of them during his attacks,leaving 3 left
He blends in at the end of his attack and you see there are now 4 including SS
When the assult on megs happens, 2 jets fire on each side,which means 4 jets fired,the 3 raptors and StarScream

What position is Starscream, the 2nd Jet right?


It seems that Blast Megatron the Worst!
 
GOOD Lord. Do movies MUST show/tell you everything in one movie? Michael Bay and the movie writers Want you to THINK FOR YOURSELF Or are people getting Dumber that everything must be told to them... to be True? Where the hell is people's Free thinking? Imagination? Clues Solving?

Yes, it must be showed or we have ridiculous discussions like this. Movies are a storytelling medium, not a painting. It either happened in the movie or it didn't. It wasn't shown, so it didn't happen. There were no clues to solve, no thinking to be needed. Get over it.

What position is Starscream, the 2nd Jet right?


It seems that Blast Megatron the Worst!

:rolleyes: The camera moves around so much, so fast during those hits, you can't actually tell where the specific shots are coming from and they were all fitted with Sabo rounds, the same firepower that took off Scorponok's tail. Also, when Starscream turns back into a jet he flies offscreen, so we actually don't know which one he really is.
 
trust me..alot of people are looking for this obvious hate relationship between megs and ss. i sincerely doubt that they would try to hide it. if they didnt make it obvious in the movie then whats the point. if you watch the scene again there is no sign that there was a chance that it could of been ss unless you were a fan trying to imagine it was. think whatever you want. it doesnt bother me. i just think that they would have made it obvious.
 
Yes, it must be showed or we have ridiculous discussions like this. Movies are a storytelling medium, not a painting. It either happened in the movie or it didn't. It wasn't shown, so it didn't happen. There were no clues to solve, no thinking to be needed. Get over it.
The comics medium is a storytelling medium, too, and more than enough writers and artists in the comics medium don't spell out or show everything. They often have vague sequences, or random background "noise" that doesn't seem important but in which something is happening, or they do things entirely off-panel, meaning we don't get to see it happen at all, but it still happened. I could provide examples, but I'd hope I really don't have to.
It's the same with television. Television is a storytelling medium, too, and the same things apply.
Heck, the same can even be said with prose. Something early in a novel is vague or unnoticed because it's so inconsequential or "hard to see," and yet it's something nonetheless.
But we can discount prose altogether, since comics and television are closest to "movies." And technically, movies wouldn't be so much a medium as a genre, like television, of a "visual-based" medium, or some such. But who's counting?
There are dozens upon dozens of movies out there that don't show or spell everything out, just like there are dozens of television shows and dozens of comic issues that don't. There's nothing in the definition for either mediums that everything must be shown, else it didn't happen. If it's referenced, there might be an argument because what happened will be subjective, but it can still have happened. Equally, it could not have happened, but the defining matter is not "They didn't show it, it didn't happen, KTHX."
The defining matter will be when/if it's referenced in something ahead.

:rolleyes: The camera moves around so much, so fast during those hits, you can't actually tell where the specific shots are coming from and they were all fitted with Sabo rounds, the same firepower that took off Scorponok's tail. Also, when Starscream turns back into a jet he flies offscreen, so we actually don't know which one he really is.
I'm pretty sure that how it happens is Starscream flies off-screen, behind a building, one of the pilots goes "Where'd he go?" and then Starscream flies back in, in F22 mode, and into formation with the remaining -three- jets. And then four jets hit Megatron.
7-4=3. +SS=4. 4=boomboomMegatron.
 
but there are movies that you can go back and watch where you'd say "oh yeah,i missed that" but this is so unobvious that it falls under the category of "i see a pic of venom in spiderman's eye" thread
 
The only thing known in the movies that the Military had that hurt the Decepticons was the sabo rounds. They are cannon rounds, not high explosives. The shot that really knocked Megatron off his game was a missile explosion, and what was StarScream's weapon? Missiles.

StarScream shot Megatron, the fact that the writer on the boards said "very interesting rumor" seals it for me, that is a typical response from a writer who is faced with the fans figuring something out before they were ready to introduce it as a plot element.

Edit: Also remember that earlier in the movie they called in an Airstrike against Scorpinok I can't remember what kind of Jets did the strike, but it was useless and hardly did any damage to Scorpinok. The only way AtG misslies could have done any damage to Megatron was if they were missiles from Starscream. Also, If Starscream wasn't planning something - wouldn't he have taken out all of the Raptors?

Starscream knew what was going on, shot Megatron and then beat feet out of there.
 
but there are movies that you can go back and watch where you'd say "oh yeah,i missed that" but this is so unobvious that it falls under the category of "i see a pic of venom in spiderman's eye" thread

It's more obvious than that. But good attempt at rhetoric. :D

Considering a number of people in this thread are citing the same evidence and things noticed, and as the above poster just wrote, the interviewed screenwriter didn't dispell the "rumor," I'd say that's ample proof that it's a little more evident than some Venom bullcrap.
 
Well somebody asked one of the writers and they weren't sure either.

EDIT: Nevermind, I was wrong, here's the actual quote:

Q: Was it really Starscream that fired that first missle at Megatron?

A: Very interesting rumor.

That
 

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