Days of Future Past "Director's Cut": The Official Matthew Vaughn Thread

[Doctor Jones]

We better see a dance scene playing to "Stay Alive."

What we don't know is that Magento and Eric had different ideas on how to teach dancing to their students. Which caused their rift.

 

[Project862006]

no they gonna do a dance off to

 

[TNC9852002]

I'm literally watching X2 right now...

 

[Doctor Jones]

Get back to watching it man!

I love Stryker's, "I was piloting Black Ops missions in the jungles of North Vietnam while you were sucking on your mama's tit at Woodstock, Kelly. Don't lecture me about war. This already is a war." line.

Cox doesn't get enough love goddammit.

 

[TNC9852002]

Damn...Jean/Logan smooching scene..

I swear I haven't seen this movie in like 3 years or somethin..

 

[Deaths Head II]

Get back to watching it man!

I love Stryker's, "I was piloting Black Ops missions in the jungles of North Vietnam while you were sucking on your mama's tit at Woodstock, Kelly. Don't lecture me about war. This already is a war." line.

Cox doesn't get enough love goddammit.

I agree. Cox is even awesome in the bloopers.

"Kiss anyone who approaches. Especially if it's me."

 

[TNC9852002]

Just watching X2, there was just so much more care and love put into the production of this movie and how it takes its time fleshing out the main characters and developing the story. It's really painful to watch how by-the-numbers everything was in X3 in contrast...

I almost forgot how good this movie was...

 

[Loganbabe]

I loved Brian Cox in X2. Amazing villain, and so realistic too.
But all in all, I adore X2 as a whole.

 

[Deaths Head II]

I love X2, but its hard not to get depressed while watching it considering all the hints it gave about how awesome X3 was going to be. And none of them paid off at all.

I really wonder how people unfamiliar to the comics feel about Jean randomly creating fire and having her display all this fire bird imagery. Considering the fact none of that is in X3 it just feels random now.

 

[akfj]

We better see a dance scene playing to "Stay Alive."

What we don't know is that Magento and Eric had different ideas on how to teach dancing to their students. Which caused their rift.

"They're breakdance fighting!"

 

[JP]

Just watching X2, there was just so much more care and love put into the production of this movie and how it takes its time fleshing out the main characters and developing the story. It's really painful to watch how by-the-numbers everything was in X3 in contrast...

I almost forgot how good this movie was...

This is why I make it my duty to watch that film at least once a month. You forget how good it is when you haven't seen it in a while. You begin looking at it through rose tinted glasses.

 

[marvelrobbins]

X2 Is my favorate Marvel film.I was very critical of Danny Huston In Wolverine because
Brain Cox was so great In X2.If First Class can be cross between X2 and Star Trek we
will have something great next summer.X2 out of the X-Men films feels the most like an
group film.

 

[JP]

Yeah, I feel like we've had many great comic book movies (Spider-Man 2, Iron Man, Batman Begins). But we've only really had two films that go beyond the comic book genre and become exceptional films on their own merits. And those are X2 and The Dark Knight.

 

[BMM]

I think First Class will be a pleasant surprise, amongst the supposed heavy hitters, like Green Lantern and Thor.

 

[marvelrobbins]

In my oporion the greatest Comic Book films have been Original Superman,X2,Batman begins and The Dark Knight.It Is unpopular oporion but before Spider-Man 3 I thought bryan Singer did better with X-men than sam Rami did with Spider-man.

I think Green Lantern may not do as well as people think.It Is laregly unknown to the GA.
Ryan reynolds has msotly done comedys.Robert Downey JR with Iron Man had done serious films before.And from the marvel studios films I would be more worried about Captain America.Thor has the poential to be The Lord of the rings of comic book films.While Captain America Is suspose to be the raiders of the Lost Ark of comic book movies many films have tried to compare with Raiders of the lost but with exception of the Mummy films they bomb.This could be 2008 all over with Thor as the hit and Captain
America underperforming.With Joss Whedon doing rewrite work I personally have good feelings with Captain America butthe GA may not agree.Also remember In July the second part of the last Harry Potter and the crap that Is Transformers will also be out.First Class has great poential to surprise some since except for the hardcore X-Men fans like us It Is getting the least attention In the press from the 4 big comic book films coming next summer.

 

[Project862006]

ryan has done plenty of serious roles

he has been praised for his work in Buried which is being praised

as well as amytville horror and smoking aces

 

[Doctor Jones]

Yeah, I feel like we've had many great comic book movies (Spider-Man 2, Iron Man, Batman Begins). But we've only really had two films that go beyond the comic book genre and become exceptional films on their own merits. And those are X2 and The Dark Knight.

And Spider-Man 2. In fact, go to the Spider-Man boards. People complain how it's a great film on its own but a bad comic book film.

 

[Deaths Head II]

I consider Spider-Man 2, X-Men 2, and Iron Man, and The Dark Knight to be the standard setters of the genres. Before those films the qualities of super hero films seemed to be low or starting to get lower then they should be and those films came out and raised expectations for what a super hero film could be. Like right now people compare every super hero film to The Dark Knight because now that's the current standard while in the past it was X2 and Spider-Man 2. And of course now some people act like X2 and SM2 are utter garbage because we got TDK to compare them to.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I don't consder any of the spider-man films to the best Comic Book films.There were good things In Spider-Man and Spider-man 2 but they were hurt by having Peter parker
showing no Intrest In any other girls but Mary Jane(thus elementing the soap opera
elements that was In the classic books) and having the villians with split personalities
although I admit Dr Octopus was better at resembling the comic book version than the Green Goblin.Plus too any signal bryan Singer out for changes but let others like Rami off the hook for changes.And adapting X-Men Is tougher than the single ones.And I bet some will ***** at Matthew Vaughn for changes with First Class but hardly mention any changes with Thor and Captain America.And some need to get In through their heads there will never be a X-Men film with just Clyclops,Jean,Beast,Iceman,and Angel as the lineup.Any reboot would do as Singer did and have characters from different peroids.

 

[JP060692]

When I read Vaughn's interview on the main page, I became EXTREMELY IRRITATED by one of his responses to a question- my commentary is in brackets:


Did you have any concerns about how, no matter what you do [NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES?!?! HOW ABOUT MAKING THE FILM IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COMICS' CONTINUITY?!?! HOW MANY FANS WOULD THAT ANGER?!?! NONE!!!!], you may anger some of the die-hard fans?
Yeah, but I could tell those fans that they’re wrong [FONT=&quot][WRONG?!?[/FONT][FONT=&quot]! [/FONT]IT'S OUR OPINION, VAUGHN- ONLY FACTS, NOT OPINIONS, CAN BE IRREFUTABLY WRONG] . One thing about the X-Men world is that, if you know your X-Men universe, every writer reinvented the storyline[IF[FONT=&quot] YOU[/FONT] KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE X-MEN UNIVERSE, VAUGHN, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT THE FIRST CLASS STORYLINE WAS NEVER REINVENTED] . I did my research, and none of the histories of the characters make any sense [NONE OF THE HISTORIES OF THE CHARACTERS MAKE ANY SENSE?!?! I FIND THAT EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE]. Each writer just totally changed the history to make their plot work[REALLY?!?! [FONT=&quot]EACH[/FONT][FONT=&quot] WRITER?!?![/FONT] WHAT YOU ARE DOING, VAUGHN, IS USING THE VACUOUSLY CHILDISH EXCUSE OF "EVERYONE ELSE DOES IT"] .So I can quite safely say that X-Men has a history of reinventing its history for the sake of the plot [YES- FOR THE SAKE OF THE PLOT. ONLY IF (AND I STRESS "IF") YOUR ABSOLUTE CHAOS OF A FILM HAS A 100% FLUID, SENSIBLE PLOT, CAN YOU USE THIS DEFENSE, VAUGHN].

Sorry for the rant (esp. moderators), but, as I said above this statement irritated me profoundly.

 

[Dr.Negative]

When I read Vaughn's interview on the main page, I became EXTREMELY IRRITATED by one of his responses to a question- my commentary is in brackets:


Did you have any concerns about how, no matter what you do [NO MATTER WHAT HE DOES?!?! HOW ABOUT MAKING THE FILM IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COMICS' CONTINUITY?!?! HOW MANY FANS WOULD THAT ANGER?!?! NONE!!!!], you may anger some of the die-hard fans?
Yeah, but I could tell those fans that they’re wrong [FONT=&quot][WRONG?!?[/FONT][FONT=&quot]! [/FONT]IT'S OUR OPINION, VAUGHN- ONLY FACTS, NOT OPINIONS, CAN BE IRREFUTABLY WRONG] . One thing about the X-Men world is that, if you know your X-Men universe, every writer reinvented the storyline[IF[FONT=&quot] YOU[/FONT] KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE X-MEN UNIVERSE, VAUGHN, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT THE FIRST CLASS STORYLINE WAS NEVER REINVENTED] . I did my research, and none of the histories of the characters make any sense [NONE OF THE HISTORIES OF THE CHARACTERS MAKE ANY SENSE?!?! I FIND THAT EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE]. Each writer just totally changed the history to make their plot work[REALLY?!?! [FONT=&quot]EACH[/FONT][FONT=&quot] WRITER?!?![/FONT] WHAT YOU ARE DOING, VAUGHN, IS USING THE VACUOUSLY CHILDISH EXCUSE OF "EVERYONE ELSE DOES IT"] .So I can quite safely say that X-Men has a history of reinventing its history for the sake of the plot [YES- FOR THE SAKE OF THE PLOT. ONLY IF (AND I STRESS "IF") YOUR ABSOLUTE CHAOS OF A FILM HAS A 100% FLUID, SENSIBLE PLOT, CAN YOU USE THIS DEFENSE, VAUGHN].

Sorry for the rant (esp. moderators), but, as I said above this statement irritated me profoundly.

I dont know why this irritates you, the guy did have a point. Everytime a new writer is brought on bored in the comics and they want to revisit the past they always end up changing it. I mean think about recent history in the comics, Charles Xavier set up the x-men because he was brainwashed by sinister since birth which was unrevealed until recently. Or should we look at the fact that Charles Xavier had a twin sister all his life he didnt know about but effected his life throughout the years. So should these stories be written into the film? No doubt this will be changed again

 

[terry78]

Honestly, the fans ARE wrong in a lot of instances. Continuity gets so ****ed up over the years with most characters it all just blurs together.

 

[Loganbabe]

Wow, chill down, son...

 

[Dr.Negative]

as long as X-Men First Class ties in with X-Men 1 im happy!

 

[Iceman]

I'm a Vaughn fan but I don't quite understand what he's getting at here. He seems to be criticising (a few not EVERY as he says) past writers for rewriting history to help their plots but is he suggesting that he is going to do the same? I don't think any diehard fans can pretend that some writers didn't conveniently reinvent history for the sake of their plots. It's a fact, but just as many have respected the traditions set down by previous writers and written stories within those constraints.

I consider Spider-Man 2, X-Men 2, and Iron Man, and The Dark Knight to be the standard setters of the genres. Before those films the qualities of super hero films seemed to be low or starting to get lower then they should be and those films came out and raised expectations for what a super hero film could be.

Agreed. Those are also my favourite 4, with TDK way out in front.