🇺🇸 Discussion: General Election 2024, 🥥 VS 🍊

[blueharvest]

Wanted to share a condensed version of a larger post I'm working up for Dailykos and some other sites, wanted to get all your opinions and point out any flaws in the logic

*I should state that I generally hate conspiracy theories and don't want to go down that rabbit hole, but something felt very not right about this election*

This came about from a Reddit thread that popped up on my feed:


Some of the points made above:
-Dems won Senate seats in 5 of 6 swing state elections
-Swing state # 7: Dems won NC Governor, AG, and multiple downballot races
-Harris lost every single one of these same states... ? So people voted down the line for all the dems, and then said "Nah I'll vote for Trump"?
-Trump's biggest lead in swing states was on ballots that only had votes for president, and no downballot votes

-Trump stated out loud "I don't need your votes, I have the votes..." and that people would "never have to vote again"
-Elon Musk talked on multiple occasions about how easy it would be to rig the election
-Elon's Starlink "assisted with communications" from tabulation machines in several swing states
-A (alleged) counterhacking expert states how easy it would be to affect tabulation machines with a time-restricted hack that would make the machines look like they were functioning properly ahead of time, with the tabulations only being changed during the voting period.

Other evidence:
-Kamala raised a billion dollars (cue Dr. Evil meme) in 3 months
-Had a massive ground game advantage
-Had packed rallies full of enthusiastic supporters
-Trump's rallies were half full over the past several weeks, with attendees walking out mid-speech
-Ballot initiatives for abortion rights won in every state (except Florida because of the 60% threshold)
-These initiatives usually match up with higher dem turnout, as in 2022 when the "Red Wave" failed to materialize
-People were waiting hours in line to vote, and yet, millions fewer people voted this time around...?

Trump's people voted the same they did in 2020, but Kamala got probably around 10 million less votes than Biden??
None of it makes sense. Like I said I hate Conspiracy Theories, but how was any of this possible...

Maybe people look for straws to grasp, but im too one who questions these elections.
Something feels off about this.
I cant put my finger on it, but stuff like that the bomb threats arent a bigger deal or how little gleefull Trump is.
Stuff like the money Harris raised and that the Rallies were full while Trump at the end was holding rallies at almost empty places.
Suddenly he won so decisive?
Or that People voted on Abortion rights for Democrats but then Trump for president? Does that makes sense?

I dont know, maybe the explenation is simple and this is grasping straws, but i cant help but feel that something is not right with those elections.
I do think a by hand recount and stuff, should be the minimum...especially considering the steps Republicans took when Trump lost.
Its only fair to check, considering the suspicious way Trump, Musk etc talked.

Also the fact that, four years ago, it took a couple of weeks (if not longer) to determine the vote count in states like Arizona and other Swing States, but this year, we know the results in a couple of hours.

 

[BoredGuy]

So my post got blocked on Daily Kos, apparently we're not even allowed to have a discussion about it
Doesn't seem very democratic to me

 

[Kon]

Or that People voted on Abortion rights for Democrats but then Trump for president? Does that makes sense?

Well, Trump has mentioned before the elections that he would let the decision about abortion laws to the states (and he said he would oppose a general abortion ban).

So, I guess many people feel they could vote for Trump, while also voting for allowing abortion in their states.


It seems Trump plans to fulfill his words on this, since he hasn't mentioned anything about a general abortion ban in his plans (and he has mentioned some outrageous things)

 

[Ironfan72]

Doesnt really matter at this point, Kamala conceded and Trump has been declared the winner, we may never really know if there was an effort to steal the election, if Biden came out today and declared an investigation, republicans would cry foul and incite another insurrection, and even if they were ok with an investigation, the only results they would accept is Trump winning.

 

[nachtschicht]

Considering that 'accusing others of something they have done or wish they could do/get away with' is one of their favorite go-tos, I'd believe it.

 

[blueharvest]

Americans Didn't Vote for What Donald Trump Is About to Give Them

For 40 years, Republicans have mixed populist rhetoric with plutocratic policies. Maybe this time, Americans will finally get wise to the con.

www.rollingstone.com

 

[blueharvest]

Democrats kept calling Trump a fascist, but these Pennsylvania voters thought he could help them pay the bills

Even though Trump spewed violent and anti-democratic rhetoric, these voters think he can help the economy and their bottom line.

www.inquirer.com

 

[blueharvest]

First came the bots, then came the bosses - we’re entering Musk and Zuck’s new era of disinformation | Joan Donovan

Tech leaders’ politics are encoded into their platforms – and with Trump’s ascent, they have direct access to the Oval Office

www.theguardian.com

 

[Lily Adler]

I would like to remind MAGAs that the "good ole days" were only good because of FDR and the New Dealers pushing progressive legislation to get us out of the Great Depression, which is why Leftists fought so hard for Bernie Sanders as POTUS. If Walz was a couple of years younger, I would say give him a shot at POTUS next time.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

I would like to remind MAGAs that the "good ole days" were only good because of FDR and the New Dealers pushing progressive legislation to get us out of the Great Depression, which is why Leftists fought so hard for Bernie Sanders as POTUS. If Walz was a couple of years younger, I would say give him a shot at POTUS next time.

World War II and the post-war rebuilding was a massive economic stimulus too.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Casey urges patience in vote-counting for Pa. U.S. Senate race as McCormick returns to Connecticut • Pennsylvania Capital-Star

A day after a victory speech in Pittsburgh, McCormick flew to Bridgeport, Connecticut, flight records show.

penncapital-star.com

 

[Lily Adler]

MeidasTouch (@meidastouch.bsky.social)

Latino Trump voter believes Trump will not deport “family oriented” Latinos since that would be “unfair.”

bsky.app

 

[squeekness]

MeidasTouch (@meidastouch.bsky.social)

Latino Trump voter believes Trump will not deport “family oriented” Latinos since that would be “unfair.”

bsky.app

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Yeah, good luck with that, pal.

 

[Detective Conan]

 

[AndrewGilkison]

 

[Lily Adler]

Supreme Leader Trump in 2028:

 

[blueharvest]

Elon Musk's "Election Integrity Community" turns its attention to Arizona

Conspiracy theorists allege that there's only one way a Republican Senate candidate could possibly lose in a state Trump won: election fraud.

www.motherjones.com

 

[blueharvest]

 

[Lily Adler]

 

[squeekness]

Supreme Leader Trump in 2028:

I'd laugh but it could happen.

 

[blueharvest]

US progressives urge Democrats to back populist policies as party reels from loss

Pramila Jayapal says party has to ‘pick some big fights’ and blames leaders for falling ‘hostage to big-money interests’

www.theguardian.com

 

[Detective Conan]

 

[blueharvest]

 

[blueharvest]

Besides murdering her dogs for no good reason, what qualifications does she have?

 

[blueharvest]

Young Black and Latino men say they chose Trump because of the economy and jobs. Here's how and why

Black and Latino voters moved toward Republican Donald Trump in this year's presidential election, and some of the biggest shifts were among men under age 45, and that helped expand his margin over Democrat Kamala Harris.

apnews.com